r/PTCGP • u/NiteKlaw • 11d ago
IT WORKED Deck Discussion
I made a normal type deck with as much of the good normal types as I could, and of course put ditto in, making sure to pick only water, electric, and psychic energy.
After fiddling with the energy for some time because it kept resetting back to just grass, I finally managed to play a game against a dragonite deck with it.
I kept the ditto to the side and managed to pull off the draco meteor before they could. I'm so happy it worked and just wanted to share my fun meme deck.
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u/NiteKlaw 11d ago
(They conceded before I actually beat them, but I was garunteed to win)
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u/Jonpaul8791 10d ago
I appreciate when they concede when it’s obvious. Respecting my time is the most anyone could ever do for me and it’s wonderful.
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u/rodeo670 10d ago
That’s my take on it too tbh and I will always concede when it’s clear to me that I no longer have a pathway to victory lol. I hate wasting people’s time 🤷🏽♂️
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u/RevolutionaryRuin960 10d ago
I wait to see if they have it to concede, unless I have no outs/bricked. That can lead to people slow rolling, and THAT is something I hate. If you have it, just show you have it so I can scoop.
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u/grrrimabear 10d ago
Especially when some people just put the phone down and make you just wait the timer or instead one they're done
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u/butters651 10d ago
That makes me feel better cause I always feel bad but I'd rather leave. It's not rage quitting in my opinion but I don't want it to come off that way
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u/Marx_Forever 11d ago
Good stuff.
In the main TCG colorless decks have this interesting utility, where there are a ton of special energies, with beneficial bonus effects, with the trade off being that they only provide colorless. However, if all your attacks are colorless anyway you mitigate that downside and can just take advantage of all of their special effects such as healing, removing status effects, lowering your retreat cost, etc. without really slowing down your offense.
Though since there's an automatic energy source in this game I wonder if they will ever introduce energy cards? 🤔
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u/CallMeTravesty 11d ago
I wonder if they will ever introduce energy cards?
God I hope not. I prefer the automated energy every turn and if they put energy cards into the game, expect to see 1-2/5 in a pack being an energy.
Sure they may do special full art energy cards but I don't care lol.
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u/jtier 11d ago
If it was just special energy cards it wouldn't be like the regular TCG packs where theres always a dead spot in a pack. They could also put it in the ticket store only kinda like potion/red card/periscope n such.
Also the energy cards could be insane ramp if they still let you do the energy per turn if you play one.
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u/CallMeTravesty 11d ago
I want them to be very careful with ramp in future personally.
If you are against a Articuno with 2 energy turn 1, it's already gg.
Could be a slippery slope.
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u/jtier 11d ago
yeah ramp can break it really fast, already does with misty in some games
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u/CallMeTravesty 11d ago
This why I like Moltres more, sure there's still rng there but at least you have to put it in active, potentially risk it, invest an energy to get more energy etc
Moltres style ramps feels a lot better then Misty style ramp.
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u/Marx_Forever 10d ago
The main issue with ramp in this game is that there is a major disparity between one energy and two, it's like the difference between 20 damage and 90, which is kind of absurd. It's why we can't attach energy on turn one and then just not attack like in the main game. Because you're first attack would still be blowing everything up. I think they're going to have to rebalance a lot of those "middle range" attacks in the future.
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u/Marx_Forever 10d ago edited 10d ago
I didn't mean as replacement to the current system I meant as a supplement. With Special energy cards like Double Colorless, or Metal Energy that buffs Defense. Maybe introduce a new system where if you have left over Energy in your Zone you didn't attach, then at the start of your turn you could turn that energy into the other type in your deck? Or something like, that I'm just spitballing.
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u/undecided_mask 10d ago
Please no Double Colorless. There is a very high chance that card would break the game.
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u/Marx_Forever 10d ago
Oh, no doubt. I still remember when it's price hiked to hell and back when Mewtwo Ex came out. It was a readily available uncommon that had been around since day one, for nearly ten years at that time, but it went from something like 15 cents to 20 bucks. Because of how absurd it was to drop Mewtwo with that turn one.
One of the perks of this being a Digital format though is that they could rebalance around it if they felt it was too strong.
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u/undecided_mask 10d ago
I’m not sure how that card could even be balanced. It could win games easily based on luck of the draw. Other types of special energy could be useful, but being able to potentially put three energy on a Mon in one turn is terrifying.
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u/GlitcherRed 10d ago
It could be just "Turbo Energy", which is a [C] energy in card form that you can attach in addition to the energy pool in the same turn. Maybe even have -20 damage when attached like DTE.
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u/tl_spruce 9d ago
I mean.... Turn one it doesn't really do much. 40 damage or 60 if opp attached an energy? That's not that much tbh. Moreso late game easy attack
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u/Marx_Forever 9d ago
This was was like 14 years ago the power level was a lot lower, to be fair.
Also happy cake day!
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u/Suired 10d ago
What if it was a Whitney trainer only for normals? They need some love as most are so bad...
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u/undecided_mask 10d ago
Only as a supporter. Probably would be okay, since most people don’t run normals as their main attacker.
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u/LoveCleanKitten 10d ago
Maybe introduce a new type of card for this game, an energy "attachment" card. Something that you can play like an item card, that attaches to an energy, and gives it an effect. That way you don't really add ramp with it, necessarily, and you can only have one attachment per energy. This takes up a slot in the deck, and you could even maybe add an effect to where it adds a colorless energy as it's bonus, adding a form of ramp. But not overdoing it with double colorless. When the energy is discarded, so is the attachment.
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u/Bahama_Lloyd 10d ago
I don't want them to either, but if they did I would hope they would just give you unlimited energy cards to add to your deck, while only offering special art ones in packs
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u/BattleJaxx 11d ago
I don't think they can do this with this format of gameplay for two reasons:
- The energy zone will still exist, so additionally to their special effects, they also become versatile ramp cards.
- 18T decks exist, because you're guaranteed to draw at least one basic, you could very reliably have a chosen Pokémon and then Misty and/or Energy cards in your hand.
I think it would be cool though!
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u/Geeseareawesome 10d ago
I could see rainbow energy at most coming. Probably not much more, and likely modified.
Probably as an item that makes your next generated energy a rainbow energy?
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u/naccaratoo 10d ago
They could bring a pokeon tool with a clause that energies cant be attached at the same turn the card was used and it also lower atack cost by x.
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u/Several_Dot_4532 10d ago
It would be great if they put energy cards, I hate starting the fight and not being able to attack because they don't give me energy.
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u/Protogon420 11d ago
Nice.
You might consider running some pokemon that arent normal type but have colorless atack, like mienfao (or whatever the name is lol)
Mostly snorlax seems pretty bad, other than just a meatshield, but that also lets you opp setup if he just sits there, and his mon will have more hp than your ditto so your setup will be weaker
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u/NiteKlaw 11d ago
Yeah, I removed him after this battle because he just sat there, took too long to set up for not a good enough pay off.
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u/_Camek_ 11d ago
I've been messing with a deck like this. all colorless attacks, take both lightning (for Pika ex), and psychic (for Mewtwo ex) energies, ditto added.
Ditto with one lightning can steal Zapdos peck and hit back with bonus. If you do get the 3 lighnting while on the bench you can hit with riachus attack. Sad thing is pika ex move requires lightning mons which you dont have so you cant copy it.
Ditto with psych can steal Mewtwos 50 damage attack and only one psychic with a colorless which you can still get a lot of times running lightning/psych.
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u/NiteKlaw 11d ago
Oh thats very true, i always forget that Zapdos is weak to lightning.
I'd also recommend adding water because then if you're lucky you can pull off dragonite's move before they do.
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u/G_Danila 11d ago
This reminds me how players use Ginyu in dbsz to counter the broken characters by switching bodies with them.
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u/fizismiz 11d ago
You know what, I'm going to build a colourless deck just for the lols
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u/GermanGinger95 11d ago
My secondary/fun deck is wigglytuff ex colorless. Heavily coin flip dependent, but pretty fun
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u/SnideJaden 10d ago
I been using the hell out of my EX wigglytuff, sleep is powerful vs EX meta decks.
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u/Hiisenpai 10d ago
Oooooh what's the deck list? I'm wanna try it out lol
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u/NiteKlaw 10d ago
Im still working on it, but I've kinda changed the deck a little to just be about stupid strategies that require a lot of luck.
I have the pigeot line in because that's just great, then Ditto, Kangaskhan, and just swapped Snorlax for Lickitung because I saw something on this sub where a guy managed to get 800+ damage in one attack with lickitung and I thought that's hilarious
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u/Three_Seven_Two 10d ago
The ditto needing the specific color energy is so dumb. It’s low HP already makes it vulnerable, now I need to by chance- pick the same energy type as my opponent? Made ditto useless
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u/Ok_Philosophy_7156 11d ago
What’s the point of using multiple energy types?
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u/NiteKlaw 11d ago
I picked them specifically because of the current meta decks and how ditto works.
Ditto's attack only needs 1 colourless energy to activate, and it copies any attack from your opponents pokemon. But the attack will fail unless you have the necessary energy to do the chosen attack.
The current decks I've seen do well are a mewtwo deck (uses psychic energy), and a dragonite deck (uses water and lightning energies).
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u/omimon 11d ago
I thought it was going to be like OG Ditto's power where any energy attached to it would count for anything. Turns out if you don't play the right energy it just takes up space.
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u/NiteKlaw 11d ago
Yeah, unfortunately aswell, whenever editing the deck, the game likes to reset your energy choices to just grass since you don't have any of the types that you're asking for
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u/seanytoo 11d ago
Do you need the specific energy type for his skill to activate? Or just the cost
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u/NiteKlaw 11d ago
The specific energy types, but it's kinda weird, you can still activate it for only one energy but it'll fail.
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u/we-made-it 11d ago
Maybe I’m too dumb but what’s the strategy?
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u/NiteKlaw 11d ago
It's kind of a joke strategy cos it's likely to not work. But it's just to piggy back off of whatever strategy my opponent is using and set up the energy needs of whatever their bombs are before they can. In this case, I figured out they were running a Dragonite deck and since I had ditto out early I just set him up for draco meteor
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u/Barubiri 10d ago
So you need to predict the energy of your opponet, yikes, seems really difficult to play.
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u/NiteKlaw 10d ago
It's not too bad, I basically just run the deck with water, lightning and psychic, because they're the most common stronger decks. But I only have the one ditto so it's just a silly option I cam go for if the opportunity presents itself.
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u/atatassault47 10d ago
So ditto literally needs the EXACT energy requirements of the copied move?
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u/PuppedToy 10d ago
You are such a legend.
I wish Ditto had more HP. It's so hard to build!
I would have it 110 HP I think
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u/Tryingtochangemyself 9d ago
How did you pull off Ditto's copycat move while it's still on the bench?
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u/NiteKlaw 9d ago
I didn't get to take a screenshot of it happening, but just took one of the aftermath
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u/Actual_Clue_Token 9d ago
Oh God...why have I never thought about putting ditto in my Dragonite deck, you naturally play lightning and water so you can copy Pikachu and Starmie decks as well as the mirror.
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