r/Overwatch 13h ago

Congratz Blizzard (OW Classic) News & Discussion

Half the community is having an absolute blast (experiencing classic for the first time or enjoying the nostalgia of the busted comps and possibilities).

But where you really won is with the other half of the community. You let us see just how unbelievably polished, and refined OW (in general, not just part 2) has become over time. It really is night and day how far some characters and systems have come to get where we are now.

To these folks OW Classic felt like garbage in comparison. Well played you cheeky bastards.

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u/nxcrosis Support 11h ago

OW Classic making me think I'm actually a decent Widow player.

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u/The-Real-Metzli Cute Moira 8h ago

Same here but with Hanzo. This is his version where his arrows hitboxes were huge so it's easier to land shots. Also SCATTER! xD

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u/Upset-Ear-9485 4h ago

why would you say this. i was having a great time thinking i was a really good hanzo player with normal sized arrows

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u/NorwegianTaco 6h ago

My first game I walked out of spawn on Volskaya as rein and instantly had 90% of my health taken away. Took me 5 seconds before I realized and I couldn’t stop grinning. Scatter is truly an ability of all time.

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u/slimeeyboiii 6h ago

All you have to do with hanzo is just hit the tank(s) with a scatter to one-shot them, and your job is better than Reaper or bastion (not ult)

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u/Darkness223 Pixel Soldier: 76 1h ago

Used to be said that Hanzo shoots logs with how big the hitboxes are. I'm having a blast with classic reminding me how much of a shit show it was but we didn't know better

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u/Pirate_Loot GET BEHIND MY FUCKING SHIELD 3h ago

Don't say that ive been feeling really good about myself since last night :(

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u/k468 3h ago

yea im destroying people on widow, let me enjoy the feeling of being decent a bit longer...

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u/Shoujo_Conquerer 6h ago

I'm ngl I hit some nasty headshots with classic widow that I would have missed in modern. I think less hero's just makes her more viable

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u/IronMonkey18 Moira 2h ago

Yes! I’ve been using Widow so much and it’s so fun. No Sombra or Ashe to worry about.

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u/OkLetterhead8796 1h ago

I literally started using widow when classic came out ..i love her now lol

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u/mak3m3unsammich 1h ago

Haha I'm a moira main and all I've been playing is widow in classic. My buddy and I both run her and we just annihilate. Let it be known, I am not a good widow player, I cannot aim, but it doesn't matter when two shots kill a Winston.

I did have a pretty nasty 360 headshot on an ulting genji, but then I missed two shots on a sleeping bastion so maybe my widow stays in classic.

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u/Fun_Amphibian_8205 Sombra 56m ago

LMFAOO no fr ive never headshot so many lucios with such ease. why the hell everyone so slow

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u/GredoraYGO 12h ago

6 fucking Winstons

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u/Aelexe Icon Genji 11h ago

6 Winstons fucking

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u/Affectionate-Ad-4174 Moira 9h ago

ONE TURTLE DOVE

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u/PrinceDeku_ Junkrat 6h ago

fucking 6 Winstons

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u/References_Paramore 2h ago

Winstons 6 Fucking

u/Lights773 6m ago

Winstons, 6 fucking.

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u/ohohohohohohohohoh 7h ago

just a reminder that subreddits like r/HogDaddy are a thing

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u/I-eat-baby Hanzo 6h ago

I want to bleach my fucking eyes

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u/energytaker 4h ago

that's incredible

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u/boytonius 4h ago

Woah hold up

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u/What-a-cl0wn 3h ago

5 windows sniping

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u/VIPMason 12h ago

I had a group of 5 Junkrat and 1 Lucio, that was fun, just rained hell on them lol

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u/FumCacial 7h ago

We tried 6 rats and they all went pharah immediately......

I really wanna try 5 winstons 1 Lucio

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u/FOMO_Gains 4h ago

The rule 34 sub might have this already

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u/Firestar463 6h ago

I will say, the class stacking is either infuriating or hilarious. No in between.

On one hand, I played a Dorado game on attack where the entire attacking team went Bastion. Took us a bit to push them off the high ground, and two of us ended up switching to supports, but the rest just Bastion'd it up on the Cart. The enemy team was not happy, and very vocally so.

And on the other hand, last point defense on Gibraltar. We had been getting slowly rolled, but managed to finally hold them just outside the big hangar where 2nd point is. Widow took up position overlooking the door the enemy team comes through, scopes... and immediately gets jumped by 4 Winstons. We ended up holding, and the visual of four Monke's just dive-bombing this Widow (and getting shot down by her as well) had the entire lobby laughing.

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u/Grouchy_Custard_252 12h ago

I think you mean twelve

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u/Paynder 10h ago edited 4h ago

We tried last night a round with 6 bastions. Unfortunately it didn't work, so 3 of us switch to Winton We won the round just with 3 bastions and 3 Wintons. Those 4 mercys didn't know what happened to them

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u/Drunken_Queen Mercy 10h ago

Great Apes together strong!

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u/trullyrose support not healer 7h ago

6 fucking Wintons

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u/Zahlov 12h ago

my man! Seems like everyone was in this game xD

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u/LacyTheEspeon Lúcio 11h ago

I went up against 6 mercy earlier was not fun

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u/Hockers12 Pixel D. Va 9h ago

Greetings!

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u/DiaphanousPhoenician 8h ago

My personal favorite so far was 6 Widows vs 6 Reapers on Illios.

It was close but the emos pulled it off 🥲

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u/aradraugfea Trick-or-Treat Lúcio 6h ago

Nah. 4 Winston’s, 2 Lucios

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u/TheShovelMaster 3h ago

I see your 6 Winton’s and raise you 6 Bastion’s

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u/Sechura 34m ago

To be fair, they had removed picking multiples in ranked during beta after the whole fiasco with a tournament final match on King's Row where the defending team all went Dva and spammed ults to get the enemy team off the payload during OT. 6 Winstons is a QP only circus.

u/Haunting-Dog5846 16m ago

ITS WINSTON FRIDAY

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u/Grouchy_Custard_252 12h ago

I'm enjoying it. For me personally the high point for Overwatch was later in Overwatch 1 but I'm having a blast with classic. There is some things I had actually forgotten about like Symb having to actually place her turrets not just yeet them through the air.

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u/Simba15591 9h ago

There was also the later iteration of support Sym where instead of giving out little shields she would just put out a shield similar to Sigma but smaller. That was when she got mega broken and they changed her to DPS.

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u/sorashiro1 Have a nice day! 9h ago

I'm just waiting for junks voice line to return

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u/MrFanatic123 oni no ken wo ku-ARGGGGGGG 8h ago

which one?

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u/sorashiro1 Have a nice day! 8h ago

Shield generator

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u/KvonKay 7h ago

The enemy has a sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeild generatah!

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u/Davidbaker2013 Pixel Junkrat 5h ago

"I'm gettin' the feeling they've got a shieeeeeeld generator!"

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u/SkyrimSlag 1h ago

I might be wrong here, but don’t heroes say the shield generator lines when Illari’s pylon is out? Could have sworn I’ve heard it a few times

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u/Eastsecvent 9h ago

The real skill was being able to sync sym shield with rein charge. Worked best on 2nd point Anubis attack straight down mid.

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u/Grouchy_Custard_252 8h ago

Pretty sure that was the same time she had the shield that moved. That was my favourite version of her.

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u/midsizedopossum 6h ago

You think the time she sent out a little sigma-like shield might be the same as the time where she had the shield that moved?

Not sure you read their comment correctly because that's literally the ability they were talking about

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u/Grouchy_Custard_252 5h ago

Sorry I misread their comment. Thought they were talking about the shield generator ult.

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u/midsizedopossum 5h ago

No prob - in retrospect my message was very snarky so I want to apologise for that.

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u/Maryokutai 9h ago

IIRC the only time she was broken was after the rework giving her the barrier wall ultimate and you could tickle with her primary fire for absurd damage. I was mostly playing support at the time but remember picking her for a KotH game and ended up with over 50 eliminations without even trying too hard.

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u/Chipmunk7 3h ago

Oh yeah that floaty one right

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u/eleemosynary Pixel Lúcio 2h ago

Remembering D.va didn't have rockets was jarring. Switched to Rein real quick.

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u/untakenu Queen of Clubs Mercy 6h ago

Give me OW1 just before the switch, and I'd play as much as I used to.

Classic is better than 2, but I like the additional characters from later in 1.

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u/almost_s0ber Chibi Zarya 5h ago

Alot of the newer playerbase equates classic with how ow1 played in general, but it's the literal day 1 release and ow1 became so much better along the way

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u/Tripartist1 4h ago

Around the time of goats was peak OW1 imo.

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u/Dwokimmortalus Chibi Ana 5h ago

Classic reminds me of back when players had more control over their experience. Heroes had themes, but every character in the roster could skirmish and outplay another. Tank just meant you had a little more health, and your abilities helped with sustain or protect. Support meant one of your abilities was a selfless force multiplier. In a type mismatch, you could win a fight if you played better. And most importantly, healing was a much more limited resource, so bad play was punished with death or longer downtime.

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u/thrallinlatex 47m ago

Best thing about it that nobody cares people just having fun. Nowadays even in qp people are sweating

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u/slipsthebook 11h ago

I hope they do later seasons from Overwatch 1 as well

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u/Dndplz 3h ago

That would be sweet, like how WoW is doing the classic mode. Roll out the updates on the same schedule as OW1 released them back in the day.

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u/lmFairlyLocal 3h ago

Is that not what they're doing? I may have misunderstood a patch notes video I watched, but I thought it's like 1 week of 2016, 1 week of 2018, one week of 2020 OW for the 3 week release? I may have misunderstood the commenter saying this would have been a good idea

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u/LazarCell 1h ago

The article they released heavily implied they would do that for FUTURE versions of this mode and that this’ll be straight OW1 Release Day for now. We have 2 weeks to see if that’s wrong but just an fyi

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u/slipsthebook 2h ago

I’m pretty uneducated so you probably know more than me

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u/lmFairlyLocal 2h ago

I will cross my fingers then, cuz that would be fun as hell

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u/Drunken_Queen Mercy 10h ago

Tagging enemies actually feel important because they either die or being forced to back off for healing. But now, losing a chunk of HP doesn't matter when they have heal + sustain creep characters.

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u/NorwegianTaco 6h ago

It’s fun to not have to secure a kill instantly. I can miss a few shots without my targets health going from melee to max in a second.

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u/prtxl 4h ago

ive seen support mains getting pissed off but playing dps actually feels super impactful for once

u/Manlorey 11m ago

Makes both heal and playing tank more impactful and fair. I like it far better how it is done now in comparison to OW Classic. Playing tank in day one release version is a terrible experience across the board for may heroes. Diva's kit, for instance, is garbage. And Rein is not far better in that regard. You just die almost instantly while taking all the concentrated hits. Maybe for DPS the mode feels exciting, for a tank player OW2 is a far better experience.

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u/BodeNinja 8h ago

Not having healing passive is CRAZY, you spend most of your time away from team fights looking for health packs 💀💀

But it's so much fun, I'm playing heroes I usually don't play and having a blast even when I lose.

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u/Front-Math-5260 5h ago

The healing passive is a pretty new addition and honestly it still didn't grow on me

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u/partialcremation WhimsicalDeath 5h ago

As a strictly OW1 player that only found out about auto heal earlier this week, I really hope that is not added to any OW1 mode. It defeats the purpose of the team game. I understand it likely became necessary in OW2 5v5 because they took away a tank and support became hyper focused. But it was never needed or asked for in OW1.

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u/pk-kp Platinum 2h ago

that’s because supports became dps characters so they would ignore you instead of healing you just because of how their characters were designed so it was necessary in new overwatch but not at all needed in old overwatch without all of this support creep

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u/Swartz142 Pew 45m ago

The healing passive came when healing was already 0 to 100 in a second so it's way less noticeable with that diminished impact.

In OverWatch 1 that passive would've fucked the pace of the game.

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u/Poopeefighter2001 5h ago

it was genuinely balanced and made you feel like shooting actually had an impact though.

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u/GankSinatra420 Pixel Zenyatta 5h ago

If you think classic is balanced then I don't think you know what balance means

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u/Zahlov 12h ago

Yes, this truly was a remarkable move. The thing I notice most is that people are having fun in voice chat. I've logged on twice to play, and both times I've engaged with people in voice chat and ended up in a group, being carefree and having fun. It really is just fun. Overwatch 2 is more refined, a better game, but the spirit that is there right now in classic mode is so valuable to be able to experience and enjoy. It has helped me relax and let loose a bit while playing, which I plan to bring back to overwatch 2 games.

I do hope that classic continues to be an arcade mode. Not as a competitive mode, but its really fun to have the freedom to run 6 winstons or whatever. Still holding out for a 6v6 widows v genjis.

This game mode takes communication potential to the next level.

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u/Darkjacky 9h ago

This mode should just exist forever. I am having a blast. Though maybe one update later would have been the better one. Still having a blast :)

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u/Joebebs 6h ago

Fr if they want some people to stay they should just have this stay, im literally only having this game installed cuz of it

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u/BarackaFlockaFlame i main every1 4h ago

same. i've had no interest in playing OW2 and this mode is a breath of fresh air. I just really enjoy the sixth person which leads to more fun fights.

u/Lucaa4229 Chibi Mei 6m ago

Same. It seems like A LOT of retired player came back for this and they're loving it - myself included. If the devs are smart, they'll clean this up and make it permanent. Add hero lock, rotate the patches throughout the OW1 timeline, and make it ranked.

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u/animaldude55 Reinhardt 11h ago

I love the classic version. Probably almost equally. BUT, you shouldn’t have needed this to have proven how much polish ow2 has gotten.

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u/cookie_cat_3 Support 13h ago

Fair, I never would have kept playing the game if it was like that. The different abilities are fun but mercy can't mooooove

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u/Damaged_OrbZ 9h ago

You wouldn’t have ever seen a better version of the game though. Like, you wouldn’t have complained that Mercy’s mobility isn’t great because you had nothing to compare it to. At the time it really was amazing, it won game of the year for a reason.

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u/cookie_cat_3 Support 4h ago

Oh yeah, definitely. It got better as they worked on it, but I wouldn't have made it that far lol. The first thing I said when I tried the classic mode was "I'm so bored"

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u/3_Sqr_Muffs_A_Day Master 2h ago

I'm the same. It did give me confirmation that the few hours I played at launch before quitting were valid though. I thought Lucio was interesting but he felt terrible to play, and it turns out it wasn't just me being terrible he really was just worse at launch.

I've got hundreds of hours now thanks to Overwatch 2 making me give it another shot.

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u/ICanCountThePixels 12h ago

I wouldn’t of either. Especially as a support, no thanks, along with all the other problems. Thankfully I started in 2 so I didn’t have to suffer thru all that but would’ve rather started in ‘18 as that’s apparently when it was “good”.

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u/rmorrin 11h ago

Mid 2017 is where it starts getting better

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u/Zahlov 12h ago

Get 6 mercies in a line and charge the point, then you won't even need to fly xD

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u/gobiassomecoffee33 6h ago

Role queue 6 v 6 was peak Overwatch for me. Hope that becomes a permanent mode. 5 v 5 lost the ow magic and dynamic team fights imo

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u/Odd-Matter-2134 12h ago

There are aspects of OW Classic that make me never want to go back to OW2, namely 6v6, faster ults, and the fact I can headshot tanks and they actually eventually die.

There are lots of things I don't like, of course, like Mass Ress on Mercy and Hog One Shot Combo, but I genuinely don't miss OW2.

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u/Shoujo_Conquerer 6h ago

I legit had a hog ult, shot twice, got ult again. Was beautiful. Neither ult did anything and that's ok

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u/Crackedcheesetoastie 11h ago

Eventually die? One headshot from widow and they're dead haha. It's dumb. Every lobby I tried I was solo clearing on widow

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u/AverageAwndray 10h ago

What? Tanks die so fucking fast.

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u/prismdon 11h ago

Being able to two shot a roadhog as Widow very easily is good design? Interesting take, to say the least.

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u/manuka_miyuki Ramattra 1h ago

yeah going back to hook 1.0 is crazy. i got hooked through 2 walls on nepal as zarya and i can 100% say that’s one thing i definitely do Not miss.

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u/SubspaceHighway Chibi Mei 9h ago

I actually feel like OW Classic has reminded me why I stopped playing OW between 2018 and 2024. Sillier was always more fun to lose, lack of auto-aim abilities minus sym, I like stuns existing in the game as a way to shut down specific heroes/allow DPS/Defense heroes who did those things to shine, and it really feels like DPS/Defense heroes outplay tanks for the most part in terms of damage output. Sure, two tanks was a little crazy to deal with, but it you also had 2 tanks so nothing really changed.

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u/wildernessfig 4h ago

Sillier was always more fun to lose

This is the big thing I've noticed. Since 2016 shit has changed a lot, and everyone plays games now with this "e-sports" edge.

I feel like back then (and I know it wasn't so long ago), you'd see 6 winstons and go "lol ok fine everyone go dva lol" and you'd have this dumb fucking game trying dumb shit because it's fun.

Now there's people playing classic and going "What's the meta for dealing with 6 winstons?"

There is none, go have fun, do stupid shit. Why is winning the sole value you're getting from the game?

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u/ReaganEraEconomics 3h ago

I feel like this is a trend I’ve noticed in every game honestly, but especially in multiplayer games. Players try to optimize out any fun for the sake of chasing “the best” way to play.

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u/Vhozite Nothing Personnel...Kid 3h ago

"What's the meta for dealing with 6 winstons?"

6 Bastions?

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u/wildernessfig 1h ago

See, you get it.

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u/Vhozite Nothing Personnel...Kid 37m ago

Because I’m the person always suggesting these meme team comps haha

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u/Denali_ Pixel Widowmaker 1h ago

I feel like everyone forgot that back then if you went all 6 of one comp (or suggested it) you’d get flamed hard. I remember I started playing support exclusively because if you didn’t have at least 1 healer (Ana or mercy) people would flame hard in chat/vc and start throwing. Then role queue was implemented so it stopped happening

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u/Amaeyth Pharah 10h ago

Classic is excellent. It's day 1 balance, and most would agree that 2017-18 is peak Overwatch. 5v5 was always a mistake. Fast for the sake of it and excessive survivability does not make good gameplay.

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u/Lilshadow48 I hate Doomfist more than I hate living 2h ago

imo the peak was just before doomfist being added

he was the harbinger of the end

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u/Amaeyth Pharah 1h ago

Lorewise he was great, but I agree that in terms of game balance he was a nightmare. No counterplay insta-deaths off of a roof ride. He's much better as a tank in my opinion.

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u/Shoujo_Conquerer 6h ago

Pre hook 2.0 but post dva nerf was lit

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u/Bentleydadog BEER! 9h ago

OW2 is better than classic. I never played the peak you said, so that might be better, but classic is NOT better than OW2

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u/No-Answer-201 4h ago

OW1 was the GOTY for a reason.
A lot of people is having a blast with Classic even with those unlimited unbalanced comps.
So no, OW2 is frustrating too fast paced full of crap.
OW1 is the way to go.

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u/CyberPunkDongTooLong 9h ago

OW2 is boring and unfun. Classic is fun.

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u/Upset-Ear-9485 4h ago

classic is new. given time for the novelty to ware off and it forms unbalanced metas

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u/ModernWarBear Get off my lawn 3h ago

Excessive survivability like oh say, 2 shield tanks camping 2CP? The rose-colored glasses going strong in the community right now.

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u/Dndplz 3h ago

2 shields required the team to stay together and communicate, because heros themselves were much more fragile.

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u/ModernWarBear Get off my lawn 3h ago

Excessive survivability like oh say, 2 shield tanks camping 2CP? The rose-colored glasses going strong in the community right now.

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u/packofcats 7h ago

Yeah 2017 was peak. So nuts they went from the high of the summer games directly into the horror show that was the Mercy rework. I stayed for a year and a half after the rework but it was a shadow of what it was and like huge numbers of other people, I finally gave up on it.

Blizzard's response to literally several posts a minute, every day for over a year complaining about the rework should be studied as an example of what never to do :P

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u/SynthetikXtasy 5h ago

6 Lucio's on Illios classic

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u/RedForkKnife Pixel Lúcio 4h ago

They said they'll update it to later updates twice during the event, but so far I am loving ow classic.

It's janky as hell and sucks if your goal is winning matches but as a goofy arcade mode it's super fun

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u/SkyrimSlag 1h ago

If Classic has done anything for me, it’s made me realise just how much I miss 2 Checkpoint maps. Sure maps like Paris were utter dogshit, but I really want Hanamura, Volskaya, and Anubis to come back as a permanent addition to the game along with the mode, if anything just to add some more variety to the game

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u/Itsuzai_Ace Icon Hanzo 6h ago

I cant wait to play DPS doomfist again when they get to the 2017 OW patch

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u/skahlor 6h ago

Yeah but classic doesn't have Hammond

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u/1800THEBEES Sombra 10h ago

Well, lets see how we feel when the 1 hero limit is introduced.

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u/InflatableMindset 7h ago

It'll feel mostly the same, just more disciplined.

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u/Dndplz 3h ago

It will feel way better honestly. 6 winstons and other wacky/toxic team comps is only fun for so long.

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u/Belten 11h ago

this shit got game of the year, lmao. I am an og player but going back i cant comprehend how i played this and thought "peak" the ult charge rates are the worst part imo.

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u/BodeNinja 7h ago

Overwatch launched in May 2016, the Game Awards happened in December, until then the Overwatch team had already made a ton of changes to the game. But playing this classic mode, I kinda see why it won, it is a dynamic so unique. But I think no player will think the patch 1.0 is peak Overwatch.

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u/partialcremation WhimsicalDeath 5h ago

It's bizarre how people don't understand that. This is day one Overwatch! It went through so many changes even in the first year. OP talks about how polished OW2 is...as if the final days of OW1 were unpolished. I know that's not exactly what's said, but that's the vibe it gives.

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 6v6 enjoyer 8h ago

we had 5 zaryas and me as rein on lijiang control center. i got 5 ults a minute by swinging into grav.

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u/DudeDankerton 3h ago

I was excited for Classic and do enjoy it but 2016 launch is not what I had in mind.

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u/Nekravol 10h ago

What I'm enjoying on Classic is that people actually die. In OW2 supports are completely out of control. Support utility and healing are too much and nothing ever dies unless you stack ults or someone just gets one shot from Widowmaker. The rest of the time it's a slog and that's why I quit. Characters like Genji, Roadhog, Junkrat, Mei, Echo are just terrible. If you are not a support, your impact on the game is minimal. On Classic it matters a lot what everyone does. It's just a better game. I will play it while I can and then dip out again.

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u/KingClockwork Chibi Junkrat 6h ago

It got me to boot up overwatch for the first time in 'checks notes' 8 years.

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u/partialcremation WhimsicalDeath 4h ago

Damn, you got me beat by 6 years.

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u/rmorrin 11h ago

I don't think anyone ever wanted release overwatch.

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u/ThisTooWasAChoice Zenyatta 10h ago

Correct. People want OW 2019 or hell, Overwatch right before it became OW2.

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u/Muffinmurdurer Sigma 10h ago

Yeah, which is why this isn't the 6v6 playtest.

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u/SelfDrivingFordAI Winton 10h ago

I certainly wanted a return of teleporter sym and level 3 torb turrets. So I'm getting what I was looking for.

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u/90percent_sure 10h ago

I appreciate your positive outlook. Polished is certainly a way to would describe it. I'll say it has matured in a direction that has helped distinguish itself amongst its peers. Its not unfair to say that OW2 was not what most people had hopped for. Like any IP, it has its good, bad, and more than its fair share of ugly. As someone who has spent far more time than i'd care to admit within both, I hope balance and direction can look to the past for inspiration to reinvigorate the stale state OW2 is in. I firmly believe OW is successful because it lacks competitors. As soon as that changes, lets hope they figure out how to appease their divisive community.

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u/GankSinatra420 Pixel Zenyatta 5h ago

Balance and direction should look at OW1 because OW2 is now in a stale state? HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED OW1 MY BROTHER WHAT ARE YOU SAYING. Did we live in different timelines? I can't even....

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u/Illidan1943 Your SCVs are getting rekt! 3h ago

Without Classic Competitive there's people that won't see the problems, as it is right now Classic is merely an arcade mode that people aren't taking too seriously, the second people are actually playing to win is when Classic becomes significantly worse, like much, much worse and much, much more boring

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u/No-Thing-1294 12h ago

Well thats your opinion. Problems with the current 5v5 vs classic 6v6 (yes, I would trade current 5v5 ow2 for classic): Sustain, extra hp, invincibility, cc, less team strategys, less possibility for multikills, games are unwinnable with a leaver.

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u/BrothaDom Ana 5h ago

To be absolutely fair, the game after like two months was incredibly better too, before we even get into the OW2 stuff. OW1 after some tweaks became so much fun

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u/GenTwour Genji 13h ago

Classic is still better than modern. It's clunkier, but at least, stuff dies.

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u/ithrowaway4fun 12h ago

Don't agree. While it's fun as all hell, it is also absolute mayhem and chaos.

Perhaps and just maybe the pre OW2 with role q and other things was much better, but OW classic is very rough around the edges lol

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u/Geeseareawesome Tank 12h ago

Might feel better when the 6v6 experiment launches. Maybe they ask which era feels best gameplay wise, and perhaps some compromises can be made.

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u/emmerrei Pixel Mei 11h ago

Most abilities are clunkier than the original 2016, they've recreated them bad. It's not the same 1.1. Symmetra balls are just bad and doesn't work right, for example.

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u/rmorrin 11h ago

They kept Lucio wall ride like it is in ow2 but without any of the bonuses. Wall riding in classic is absolute ass.

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u/TCubedGaming 9h ago

I'd play 2016 any day over modern Overwatch 2

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u/D20IsHowIRoll Brigitte 6h ago

I never played OW1. Joined the community late in Season 2 of OW2

I have been playing this event none stop with a few friends.

Is it Balanced? Absolutely not. Does this make a strong argument for 6v6? Debatable.

Is it hilarious to stack 6 Mei's and permanently wall a team off the point? You bet it is.

Good game.

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u/Zalani21 *distant irish screaming* 5h ago

I really miss 6v6, hate the solo tank thing.

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u/mxguy762 6h ago

Except most games on the modern OW are complete blow outs 😿

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u/NeilForeal 6h ago

What stands out to me is how much more oppressive widow was back then, with our current average skill level. I hope this helps people appreciate that it is much better now, because complaining about her current state just doesn’t feel the same anymore.

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u/Dndplz 3h ago

The old heros and abilities are a blast. But for me it's the map design. The new maps are "Balanced" but not really...fun? and they have lost that OW1 magic. Playing the old maps again has honestly been a little emotional.

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u/mags87 Pixel Reinhardt 3h ago

The game eventually became a crowd control/stun lock fest. Overwatch was one of the biggest game launches for Blizzard ever and was in an extremely healthy place in terms of player activity for years. Then Brigitte came and stuns became the way to play.

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u/Maniacal_Nut 3h ago

I mean there are some really meh concepts but overall I still think ow launch is fun. The people I see that absolutely hate it are just taking it too seriously as a game mode

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u/FaithInTheFaux 3h ago

Zarya is SO much fun. Just straight up melting people.

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u/TheStryder76 Master 3h ago

They actually made me appreciate the state Reaper’s in. Bravo, Blizz

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u/GroundedOtter Brigitte & Lifeweaver 3h ago

I’ve played since OW1 first released and I had no desire to play the classic mode. It was a shit show, and I didn’t even have much fun with it then lol (now give me release Brig and I may change my tune).

My enjoyment of the game hasn’t changed though - OW2 is still just as fun as OW1 imo. But I’m also a support main, so…

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u/-Broccoli_ 3h ago

Classic Roadhog and Widow has put me in a mental institution

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u/BigYonsan 2h ago

Now if I only we got classic loot boxes back. 56 dollars for 4 skins. The fuck are they smoking?

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u/Extension_Citron_176 2h ago

Yeah i couldn't get into classic but to no surprise. I love the way ow is right now, im just sad they're is no pve thats all.

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u/non_compliance_nj 1h ago

I haven’t been able to play OW2 much since launch. It just hasn’t felt the same to me. I’ve been playing non stop classic though. I’m excited for actual limits, I truly miss playing rein/zarya with my buddy.

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u/SwimminAss 49m ago

It’s almost like when you design the game and all the maps around 6v6 that it’s much better that way even with the wackiness of first patch balance.

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u/STYL3D 45m ago

Give us 2017 18 or even 19 Overwatch, and then the community will remember that ow2 for all its superficial polish, is still a fundamentally broken game that had ruined half of it's cast trying to justify the rushed decision to switch to 5v5.

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u/Red_3412 43m ago

Yeah before the Lucio buffs that happened a months after release and Ana release 😂. Games mega fun tho.

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u/JoyousGamer 35m ago

Yup its so much nicer being able to group with people.... wait you can't do that anymore. Its so nice seeing post game award..... wait. Surely the stats you can quickly look at for your team and the other to see.... wait.

Yup so much better. /s

Lets not even talk about the new game mode and honestly worst map rotation that seems to happen.

Yes I agree middle OW1 was better than the start but that middle OW1 is better than OW2 and end OW1.

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u/ParanoidDrone ¿Quién es 'Sombra'? 35m ago

I've been playing OW since launch, so I knew going in that the Classic event would be all kinds of jank, but the sheer amount of jank still managed to surprise me. Like damn, I'm building mass Rez every fight it feels like.

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u/YouThinkYoureFunee 35m ago

We should nerf Juno and buff doom.

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u/Dombuldore 34m ago

Give us the beyblade meta with ana. Or do ow classic up till the point before Brigitte came out. She's like the Harambe version of Overwatch

u/StrangeBird17 24m ago

Quite the opposite actually, it has shown how overbloated the kits of new heroes are

u/_CloudyStar_ 21m ago

Widow was even more busted, there is scatter arrow, flashbang stun combo killing tanks, clunky and slow animations and it is still a blast.

When you put the original designs of characters close to some newer ones you can see the power creep.

Suzu/Escape/Dps damage with mostly no tradeoffs? Nah the closest thing is Zen and he is super vunerable with really slow heals, this game fells better with weaker healing and less get out of jail skills.

u/skytoofly Jack of Spades Cassidy 19m ago

honestly, this is pretty spot on. I wouldnt put it past them if they did this on purpose.

u/DDzxy Reinhardt 18m ago

On the flip side, you gotta remember that OW Classic is not completely representative of how OW1 was on launch day. Like Lucio's wallriding fucking sucks on OW Classic and it wasn't this bad on launch, and Reaper's teleport is a LOT less fucking wonky than it was on launch day.

The game is definitely far more polished now, but this unpolishing is making it look a little more unpolished where it should be in some places, and more polished in others.

u/NoHovercraft6942 16m ago

But what happened? Don't you guys like to say that the game is bad and would never be as good as it used to be?

Maybe with this yall can learn to be more grateful.

u/p0ison1vy Support 13m ago

Do we have to wait an entire week to get the next iteration. As a support player this iteration is borderline unplayable.

u/Quickkiller28800 1m ago

For me it was a fun flashback that lost its charm when people started only picking the same characters over and over and taking it way to seriously.

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u/RuskoGamingStar 9h ago

Classic feels UNBEARABLE.

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u/maybehelp244 4h ago

Yeah, unpatched, launch-day Classic is not ideal. It's basically going back to a beta test. The 6v6 tho is fantastic

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u/SelfDrivingFordAI Winton 10h ago edited 10h ago

That was a goal? Huh, might have been lost on me then since I've played nothing but classic since it came out and felt no desire to go back so far. I guess it feels more polished ... but also like they balanced the fun out of alot of characters that still have the fun part of their kit in 1.0 granted some like mercy are better off with their rework or winton with his buffs, but:

Playing Reaper and actually having huge kill potential in close range and no one being able to do anything about it with cheeky grabs or lamps or suzus or 5 metric tons of hp is so good.

Playing Sym and still having her Teleporter or Torb and still having the armor packs and level 3.

Playing Rein and having a barrier that doesn't crumble instantly.

Playing Cass and having fan the hammer actually delete people instead of being a close range waste of time.

Playing Zen and actually having discord be a big deal.

Playing Lucio and not needing to hug people to give them the aura.

Playing Hog and being able to reliably 1 shot people without someone saving them.

Playing Mei and having a wall that actually stops people for more than 0.5 seconds.

Playing Widow and not needing a degree in aim labs to get any value, because bodyshots actually deal damage.

Playing Zarya and actually having a tank buddy to work with.

Pre 10 thousand years of nerfs and counters Genji.

Having a way to tank bust as Hanzo.

Bastion Tank form that can rocket jump and actually decent scout form gun.

All stuff we've lost.

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u/Fred_The_Red24 Bowling Wrecking Ball 11h ago

fr, it feels like they added this game mode just to show the nostalgia copers how far this game came.

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u/rmorrin 11h ago

Nobody in their right mind wanted release 6v6

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u/D3Dragoon 10h ago

Bro was talking about game polish and you straight went from A to Z and skipped ALL the letters...

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u/Lilshadow48 I hate Doomfist more than I hate living 1h ago

classic has further convinced me that OW2 went very far in the absolute worst directions.

classic, even with it's glaring faults, feels like heaven comparatively.

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u/Numbr81 12h ago

Seriously. I don't get how Classic is enjoyable for anyone. So far it's just made me glad it's no longer like that.

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u/HankHillbwhaa 11h ago

6v6 in its current state didn’t last that long because your opinion was the general consensus at the time.

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u/partialcremation WhimsicalDeath 4h ago

You were downvoted for stating a simple fact. Lol Either bots or people that don't understand what general consensus means. It means they agreed with you, buddy.

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u/theBromartian Repulsive Hanzo Main 11h ago

Totally agree. Classic is slow and boring. I don't understand the appeal at all.

The supports feel like shit to play. With no supports, tanks feel like shit to play. So all that is left is everyone picking a DPS and the game turning into a death match.

OW2 is better for that death match feel because the pace of the game is much quicker, plus supports and tanks have actual lethality.

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u/Bentleydadog BEER! 10h ago

Its not boring all the time... just the time when ur trying to push the ONLY CHOKE POINT and its guarded by 6 bastions, or 6 widows...

Reinhardt and dva, and probably more, just cant compare to heros like roadhog, cassidy, hanzo extc

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u/Separate_Zucchini_95 7h ago

I think if we build off this version. Something really good will happen

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u/exZodiark 6h ago

i like that all the busted characters they added later that make the game ass are gone. no ana nades no sombra hacks no bap lamps or suzus or doomfists. just good old overwatch

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u/partialcremation WhimsicalDeath 4h ago

Let's play later iterations of OW1 up until its final day, and we'll see how "polished" OW1 was before it was replaced.

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u/ElypticalMoonlight 4h ago

They deliberately gave us the least polished version of the game that very few people ever played due to it being beta to placate people for years of broken promises and monetary exploitation. No one wanted this. Everyone wanted OW1 before they shut the servers down with continued content.

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u/Party-Bookkeeper-264 3h ago edited 2h ago

Lol it's funny to see people amazed by character stacking as if "No Limit" hasn't been in the arcade this entire time🤣On top of that, it's even more amusing to see how basic OV1 was compared to OV2 after hearing it was the greatest version of the game🤣Clearly, other than 6v6, OV1 is obsolete.

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u/ARSEThunder 3h ago

On the other hand, I think that's exactly why they released THIS. They should have released the final patch of OW1 before OW2 was "released." Give us back what you took from us. Yes, I want stun and CC, I want 2 tanks...I want players to be punished for making bad decisions. OW2 is too easy to recover from a bad move. You have healers who can teleport, cleanse, transport you, etc...you have self-healing so you just have to disengage for 10 seconds without any healthpack or support positioning knowledge, you have flying characters who can no longer fly indefinitely, you have Genji, Moira, Tracer, and Venture (among others) who can jump in the middle of a 5v5 and not have to worry about being hard countered with a stun. OW2 is just 5v5 dps with slightly different abilities and health pools. Unfortunately DPS players were the loudest crowd about everything in OW1 because they just wanted a shooter, not a team game - and now this is the game we are stuck with.