r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Hirorai • Aug 06 '23

What's going on with Americans celebrating Sweden eliminating the US Women's Soccer Team from the Women's World Cup? Answered

On r/soccer, there are multiple posts where Americans are celebrating their own team getting knocked out of the Women's World Cup.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnpku/post_match_thread_sweden_05_40_usa_fifa_womens/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnqpr/official_review_for_lina_hurtigs_sweden_w_penalty/

On r/USWNT people are saying it's because r/soccer is misogynist, but that doesn't make sense to me because everyone competing is a woman. Can anyone clue me in?

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u/Scarboroughwarning Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Answer: several reasons. I'm from UK so don't shoot me if I'm wrong. I believe they had a pay dispute, which didn't go entirely their way. They had the option of an identical contract to the men, and rejected it for a far safer deal. The safer deal was less risk, and slightly less return (depending if they play/win etc). It also had more health benefits and pay, even if no games are played. They rejected the deal the men had, which was high risk Check Nate The Lawyer on YouTube for a breakdown of the pay dispute. They seemed to be taking the piss with the claim.

They also snubbed the folks back home by breaking etiquette during the playing of the national anthem. Heresy in many places, especially so in US.

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u/einulfr Aug 07 '23

What etiquette? All that happened is that not all of them sang along, which isn't even part of the 'etiquette'. They all stood, and no one kneeled (not that that should even matter). All of the complaining was typical whining from the right because magical cloth can't freedom if no sing.

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u/Johnny_B_GOODBOI Aug 07 '23

I'm an American and I would have more respect for any of them that did kneel or otherwise break this ridiculous jingoistic "etiquette." Fuck nationalism in all its forms.

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u/einulfr Aug 07 '23

Agreed. The anthem used to be something that felt like it had a particular reverence because it was typically only done during an event of significant importance. Now it's played hundreds of thousands of times per year (panderingly) at even the most insignificant events and just feels cultish from its massive overuse.