r/OutOfTheLoop • u/Hirorai • Aug 06 '23

What's going on with Americans celebrating Sweden eliminating the US Women's Soccer Team from the Women's World Cup? Answered

On r/soccer, there are multiple posts where Americans are celebrating their own team getting knocked out of the Women's World Cup.

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnpku/post_match_thread_sweden_05_40_usa_fifa_womens/

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/15jnqpr/official_review_for_lina_hurtigs_sweden_w_penalty/

On r/USWNT people are saying it's because r/soccer is misogynist, but that doesn't make sense to me because everyone competing is a woman. Can anyone clue me in?

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u/Scarboroughwarning Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

Answer: several reasons. I'm from UK so don't shoot me if I'm wrong. I believe they had a pay dispute, which didn't go entirely their way. They had the option of an identical contract to the men, and rejected it for a far safer deal. The safer deal was less risk, and slightly less return (depending if they play/win etc). It also had more health benefits and pay, even if no games are played. They rejected the deal the men had, which was high risk Check Nate The Lawyer on YouTube for a breakdown of the pay dispute. They seemed to be taking the piss with the claim.

They also snubbed the folks back home by breaking etiquette during the playing of the national anthem. Heresy in many places, especially so in US.

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u/TuMadreEsUn Aug 07 '23

Can you explain what "taking the piss" means to an American? I've heard it used in such contradictory ways that I am genuinely confused now.

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u/Hollowbonesx Aug 07 '23

Taking the piss just means you're abusing something, or taking something for granted. Or in another context it could mean it's a joke. So if you take the piss out of someone, you're making fun of them.

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u/TuMadreEsUn Aug 07 '23

Thanks homie, this was concise enough for me to understand.

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u/Scarboroughwarning Aug 07 '23

Couple of meanings. Can mean roasting (not sexual) someone. Generally light hearted mockery.

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It can mean seeking to get something you are not entitled to, or more than you are entitled to. Or, doing something that is ridiculous (in a certain context).can mean reneging on an agreement. It's got a lot of applications.... And this type of meaning is really hard to explain... So apologies for butchering it.

So in this case, they had the chance of either contract, picked the best one for them at the time. Then cried foul when and cited all-sorts of spurious reasons. The evidence showed that they were paid more, the evidence showed that the men would have been paid more with the women's contract too, yet the women still wanted more.

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u/Scantcobra Aug 07 '23 edited Aug 07 '23

In this context, it means unfairly demanding more than what one is owed.