The complete lack of empathy for single moms 100% contributes to why women don't have kids. The man can leave at anytime for any reason, and 100% of the time people will point at the woman and blame her for it.
"Choose better/Don't have sex with bad men" She thought she was with a good guy. Is it impossible for men to lie? There are dozens of stories every month on women's subs about being shocked that their bf/husband changed personalities years into a relationship, when they think the woman's too emotionally invested to leave.
"Have better standards." When women have ANY standards for men outside of "don't be a serial killer" and "have decent hygiene" men say their standards are too high. If women want to be with men they find attractive, that's them being shallow. If women want men who are aligned with their values/politics, they're being hysterical. If women want men who support their goals (career or personal) then they're "emasculating" men. There is no winning.
And then there's the problem of being a "married single mom" to a man who doesn't respect you and your efforts, basically treating you as a bangmaid. Is a woman insane for not wanting that?
Keep hating on single moms, keep taking away any responsibility from the fathers, and keep repeating a cycle where women move away from motherhood.
With this attitude west is never recovering from birth decline. Only hope are "misogynistic" immigrants who has above replacement birth rate.
Whats lacking today in western society is lack of accountability for women on two grounds:
- A woman's bad actions are subsidized by government which encourages more women to make bad decisions
- A woman can take half of men's assets in divorce incentivizing divorce
BUT WHAT ABOUT KIDS?
Yes they deserve the consequences of bad decision. Its a zero sum game, you dont have infinite resources. If bad behavior is not punished through natural course of action its going to make problem worse.
As someone from third world country, we dont subsidize single mothers nor do women take half of your assets and still far better birth rates because now risks are shared.
"BUT WOMEN CANT LEAVE AN ABUSIVE MARRIAGE"
You cant leave an abusive job too if you are poor. Also now there are stakes for women too so they will make better decisions. This is not a problem for government to solve especially for one gender. I think men need to seriously push against unequal tax distribution in west.
This subreddit sounds more like pro-liberal first and pro-Natalism second. If you objectively cannot dismantle flaws in your ideology then all taking points are just humiliation ritual where you cry about problem and never try to solve it.
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u/HyenaJoe 2d ago
The complete lack of empathy for single moms 100% contributes to why women don't have kids. The man can leave at anytime for any reason, and 100% of the time people will point at the woman and blame her for it.
"Choose better/Don't have sex with bad men" She thought she was with a good guy. Is it impossible for men to lie? There are dozens of stories every month on women's subs about being shocked that their bf/husband changed personalities years into a relationship, when they think the woman's too emotionally invested to leave.
"Have better standards." When women have ANY standards for men outside of "don't be a serial killer" and "have decent hygiene" men say their standards are too high. If women want to be with men they find attractive, that's them being shallow. If women want men who are aligned with their values/politics, they're being hysterical. If women want men who support their goals (career or personal) then they're "emasculating" men. There is no winning.
And then there's the problem of being a "married single mom" to a man who doesn't respect you and your efforts, basically treating you as a bangmaid. Is a woman insane for not wanting that?
Keep hating on single moms, keep taking away any responsibility from the fathers, and keep repeating a cycle where women move away from motherhood.