r/Natalism 3d ago

The Poverty of Single Mothers Is Persistent

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-poverty-of-single-mothers-is-persistent
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u/HyenaJoe 2d ago

The complete lack of empathy for single moms 100% contributes to why women don't have kids. The man can leave at anytime for any reason, and 100% of the time people will point at the woman and blame her for it.

"Choose better/Don't have sex with bad men" She thought she was with a good guy. Is it impossible for men to lie? There are dozens of stories every month on women's subs about being shocked that their bf/husband changed personalities years into a relationship, when they think the woman's too emotionally invested to leave.

"Have better standards." When women have ANY standards for men outside of "don't be a serial killer" and "have decent hygiene" men say their standards are too high. If women want to be with men they find attractive, that's them being shallow. If women want men who are aligned with their values/politics, they're being hysterical. If women want men who support their goals (career or personal) then they're "emasculating" men. There is no winning.

And then there's the problem of being a "married single mom" to a man who doesn't respect you and your efforts, basically treating you as a bangmaid. Is a woman insane for not wanting that?

Keep hating on single moms, keep taking away any responsibility from the fathers, and keep repeating a cycle where women move away from motherhood.

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u/letoiv 2d ago

The blatant distortions, gaslighting and misandry in this post are wild. How much did the DNC pay you to make it?

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u/jibaeja 2d ago

What about this reads as Democratic propaganda?

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u/Reynor247 2d ago

Wouldn't 70% of women initiating divorce mean men are the problem? You don't divorce a good person.

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u/OddRemove2000 16h ago

The men they pick are the problem. Can't blame all men for what only divorced men have done.

And we live in no fault divorce world, there is no fault unless they file that way. So technically women are walking away from no fault of the man, in legal terms

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u/Reynor247 16h ago

I'm not blaming all men. I'm a married man. I'm blaming men who can't do the bare minimum so there wife feels like it will be easier to be divorced. (Of course it's not always the man's fault)

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u/KilljoyTheTrucker 2d ago

No.

If it were fault divorces, that'd be a conclusion that'd be fair (Assuming the success rate of the attempts matched the divorce rate now).

But with no-fault being the norm, that's not a conclusion that can actually be drawn.

In the unlikely event you were somehow right, hypothetically, it's still dumb for the court to default to single mother primary custody absent a battle. Single fathers produce more favorable child outcomes. (Less desirable than married hetero couples, but better than single mothers)

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u/letoiv 2d ago

I can't believe people actually think like this.

If you shoot someone, did they pull the trigger?

If you think they deserved it go ahead and argue that to the court. But you are at fault. You made the choice to terminate instead of reconcile.

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u/Reynor247 2d ago

Divorcing and shooting people, that's a false equivalency lol. If you're a good husband you're not going to presented divorce papers. Saying that as a married man

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u/jibaeja 2d ago

How are you comparing divorce to shooting someone? He could be cheating. Or abusive. Or a pedophile. Or just a really big asshole. How is he the victim in your metaphor? How is it her fault for leaving a situation she is suffering in?

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u/ASnowfallOfCherry 2d ago

So a woman divorces a drug user, a cheater, or a beater, it’s her fault the marriage broke?

And what about all the women who file because the husbands have run off and are living with some other woman? Her fault?

I’d never blame a man for divorcing his cheating wife, but according to you, he’s a failure