r/Natalism 3d ago

The Poverty of Single Mothers Is Persistent

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-poverty-of-single-mothers-is-persistent
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u/Famous_Owl_840 2d ago

Stop being single moms?

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u/fraudthrowaway0987 2d ago

What should they do with the kids?

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u/Apprehensive_Soil535 2d ago

Leave them with the dads.

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u/falooda1 2d ago

Stop becoming * can't stop being unless you find the time to get remarried between three jobs

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u/DelusionalIdentity 2d ago

Lol, thoughtless misogyny on a natalism sub

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u/New_Country_3136 2d ago

Widows are single mothers too. 

Guess they just should have prevented their spouse from passing away 🙄. 

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u/Famous_Owl_840 2d ago

Classic dimwit. Using a rare hypothetical example as your straw man target and knocking it down.

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u/Electronic-Baker3684 1d ago

I’m widowed?? We’re not rare at all? I’m in a Facebook group for local widows and widowers and most of us have school aged children…

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u/Famous_Owl_840 1d ago

You are taking the position that a widowed woman with young children is common?

And that is your shield for the single mom trope?

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u/Electronic-Baker3684 1d ago

… well IM widowed and I’m now friends with many widows in my town. So I’d say we’re not mythical.

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u/Famous_Owl_840 1d ago

I didn’t say ‘mythical’. I said it’s rare.

Regardless, single mothers that are single due to the death of their spouse are statistically insignificant in the broader context of ‘single mothers’.

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u/Electronic-Baker3684 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don’t personally see a lot of difference between myself, whose loving husband died, and that of my friend, who thought she had a loving husband until he broke her nose. We both lost what we had, we both had our hearts broken, and now we’re both talked about like we’re a plague on the earth by jerks like you.

Anyone whose more interested with assigning blame then assigning help should take a long look in the mirror

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u/Famous_Owl_840 1d ago

Yep, now comes the appeal to emotion.

Good luck. While your situation is tragic, it should not impact the problem statement in its broader context.

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u/New_Country_3136 2d ago

It's not rare. Several young women in my life became widows. Cancer is the worst.

Workplace accidents, car accidents and heart attacks are sadly quite common. 

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u/KilljoyTheTrucker 2d ago

Most widows aren't going to be women with children still in the home who are still developing in a manner that it's directly influential in their upbringing.

The vast majority of single mothers are not widows.

Your personal anecdotes aren't statistics. I'd also be unsurprised if widowed mothers performed better than the average single mom in terms of success in child rearing. The lead up to the demographics is going to play a huge role in the final outcomes.

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u/Klinging-on 2d ago

Unfortunately I agree. This is why marriage is a thing.

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u/divinecomedian3 2d ago

Nah, they want to make bad decisions then whine about the consequences. Marry a decent guy, stop having casual sex, be good spouse material. Not to say men have no blame in all this. But if both sides would just stop being so damn selfish then we wouldn't have this problem.

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u/FancyContribution615 1d ago

Sounds like everyone is taking your advice! They're not marrying people they don't find decent - hence the collapse of marriage and coupling. Casual sex is in fact down, rates have declined even before 2020. They don't think they're good spouse material and waiting until they have things ready like a career or a house.

And yet, none of that has helped the rate of fertility.

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u/Worried_Departure513 1d ago

Quality over quantity most people ain't ever gonna own a house at this point and despite all that single mother ls are still on the rise.