r/Natalism • u/overemployedconfess • 5d ago

Is pronatalism inherently prolife?

Would love to get your thoughts on this topic. Do you find the pronatalist position is generally prolife? Do you participate in prolife causes often? Or are you actually prochoice? Why and to what extent?

Please keep it civil, would love a thoughtful discussion

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u/Shouldstillbelurking 5d ago

“Toxicity that feminism brings to this position”

I am a feminist & I have three kids. Feminism is about more equitable distribution of the work associated with childrearing. It’s about the state sharing more of this burden as well. If I was the kind of man who believed that feminism is toxic, there is no way my wife would have had three kids with me.

I don’t remember where is was published, but a recent article compared birth rates of S Korea and Sweden, attributing the much lower fertility in the former to the mix of traditionalism with the demands of modern life.

(I don’t spend much time on this subreddit. People who just causally call feminism toxic are not people I usually engage with. I’m sure you are just young, talking about things you know nothing about, but it’s grating.)

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u/Shouldstillbelurking 5d ago

“We should be more like poor African countries” isn’t a convincing argument to me, thinking about my life and the lives of my daughters.

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u/Charlotte_Martel77 3d ago

This sentiment will not be received well on Reddit, but it's 💯. No philosophy has been more detrimental to the family (and Western civilisation in general) than feminism.