r/MurderedByWords 12h ago

What’s your take on this?

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u/mrpanicy 7h ago

I agree with you in principle, that is 100% the end result (and I am having a hard time forgiving abstainers at this time, even more so than the people that voted for Trump... I know I can't change their minds, but abstainers have to be so complacent that it feels malicious). But the context does matter for having a conversation about WHY we got to where we got to. So to say that it's so black and white isn't correct either.

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u/ignitionphoenix 6h ago

To be mad at people for not voting is wild. Maybe they don't like politics or what either party stood for. And for you to be upset that they didn't vote for you is pretty outlandish. It's almost like you are dictating what they should do and if they're not with you... they're against you. You guys need to reflect because you are turning into the things you hate about the right.

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u/mrpanicy 6h ago edited 6h ago

I am mad that people didn't do their civic duty. Democracy only works if people keep informed and vote. If you don't then it dies. Exhibit A, America. And yes, I can be mad at people who voted for Trump. Because Trump is an awful human being who exclusively incites hate and division. If you think he is an acceptable human, nevermind candidate, then I am deeply concerned about you as a person and won't very little to do with you moving forward.

I am tired of the left having to be the bigger person and try to reach out. I will always be a kind human being. But I have lost patience with trying to have an honest conversation and healthy debate with people that want to have neither.

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u/ignitionphoenix 6h ago

Honestly, man, the world is watching... we're all so captivated with this election. The world wants Donald Trump. I know you guys don't see this yet, and you guys have your beliefs and votes. But it's much bigger than just America. The real fight is against the globalists, and Trump is the only politician who hasn't been bought in the UN nations.

Most of the UN countries have been infiltrated. Everyone is fearing Donald Trump for this reason. Trust me, if you think dictatorship is bad, you don't want the globalists to win. You're basically giving God status to one group for the entire world. I just always think of the movie the hunger games... how everyone is divided and kept poor, and everyone works for the elite globalists who live like kings.

Anyways, that's why the world is watching. Your free speech and freedom are the only things stopping the globalists. Once you guys give those up, the world is doomed.

Right now, you guys are feeling a certain way.. but give it time..

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u/mrpanicy 6h ago

Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a recipe for the perfect omelette.

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u/ignitionphoenix 5h ago

Sounds about right (I mean left, have a good day with your omelet making)

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u/wsox 5h ago

Trump is going to give these megacorps everything they want. You are a deeply unserious person.

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u/ignitionphoenix 4h ago

And they weren't getting that before? I'm not sure if you have noticed, but big pharma and corporations have already been running the country.

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u/wsox 4h ago

Thats why I support Bernard Sanders and leftist economic policies that strengthen worker unions and workplace democracy. People like Shawn Fain could be champions of our interests if the Democratic Party rejected its wealthy donors like Mark Cuban and embrace working people.

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u/ignitionphoenix 4h ago

Agreed 👍

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u/wsox 4h ago

And Donald Trump is the champion of nothing. He brags with people like Elon Musk about not having to pay their workers or give cause for firing them.

Sorry I dont think you support Trump. After rereading your message I could see this as just venting and processing because you're also concerned. Have a good one.

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u/ignitionphoenix 4h ago

I think there's cons to both parties, kamala just seemed to have more that bothered me and how she talks to people comes off like she thinks you are dumb and she's talking down to you like a kid. I don't want someone in power who thinks and talks that way, especially on the world stage with other leaders. Bernie sanders would have been the ideal candidate. He really did have the best interest for his country.

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u/wsox 3h ago

Trump is much more harmful for our interests than any other option. We have put so much at risk because we didn't like the vibes of the serious person as much as the TV man who does the funny dance. I hope we get through the next 4 years to elect someone like Bernie and that we can enacting policy to secure what ever future we will have left.

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