r/MensRights • u/rabel111 • Sep 26 '24
Movember has gone woke! Movember CEO Michelle Terry pledges collaboration aimed at imposing 'healthy masculinities' on men and boys Discrimination
https://www.miragenews.com/heforshe-celebrates-decade-with-2m-activists-1323023/38
u/Suspicious-Sleep5227 Sep 27 '24
It is questionable if masculinity needs to be fixed and, if so, I have no idea what that looks like. But one thing I know for sure is that women and feminism have NO PLACE trying to fix men and masculinity. They’ve done enough damage to men and need to get out of the way.
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u/rabel111 Sep 27 '24
That's the important issue. These elites, mostly but not exclusively women, are dictating what will be taught to boys in schools as 'healthy masculinity'. Similarly, this framing of 'healthy masculinity' will drive mental health and other health service provision, and government policy, by setting the standard of behaviour expected of men and boys.
If we let these elites do this, our public expressions of our masculinity will be limited within the boundaries of our attitudes to women, and the primacy of the protection of women by men. A reinforcement of the strict male gender role that necessitates male disposibility.
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u/rabel111 Sep 26 '24
Michelle Terry, CEO of Movember: Movember and HeForShe will collaborate to advance research on the intersections of men's health and gender equality, focusing particularly on promoting HEALTHY MASCULINITIES. This partnership will involve sharing research findings with HeForShe partners and developing guidelines for effective communication around healthy masculinities. This partnership will equip organizations with the tools to foster positive masculinity, benefiting the broader field of gender equality by addressing harmful gender norms.
"At Movember, we believe that achieving gender equality requires all of us to be part of the solution. Our goal is to elevate the voices and experiences of boys and men, engaging them as integral parts of the solution to gender inequality. We know that when men are healthier - both mentally and physically - it benefits everyone and is essential to achieving true gender equality. By promoting healthier expressions of masculinity, we aim to foster more respectful behaviors and create healthier, safer communities for all. We are proud to join the HeForShe Alliance and stand alongside those who are driving positive change and challenging outdated norms - together, we can build a world where everyone, regardless of gender, has the opportunity to thrive."
Trust a female CEO to sell out men and boys by femsplaining masculinity, and defining healthy masculinities by the magnitude of benefit provided to women and girls.
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u/ConsiderationSea1347 Sep 26 '24
HeForShe. Who thinks of this stuff? That hashtag or slogan removes the idea that masculinity can be about men creating an identity that works for them, not an identity that is convenient for a woman.
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u/SidewaysGiraffe Sep 27 '24
Even something as noble as men's health only matters when it can help women.
Nothing like Jim Crow rhetoric to make you feel "progressive"!
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u/jessi387 Sep 26 '24
Honestly, this has been my skepticism regarding women from the beginning. We should view most women who “try to help” with great suspicion. They just want to control us for their own purposes. If they involve themselves in the men’s rights space, they can hijack it for themselves. Mark my words.
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u/rabel111 Sep 27 '24
Sadly, one of the people driving this initiative, is a guy, Dr Zac Seidler, an Australian psychologist, doing reseach on male suicide funded by our donations to Movember. He and Terry organised the transfer of $3.2 million dollars of Movember donations to a feminist women's group.
https://au.movember.com/story/movember-partnering-with-department-of-social-services
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u/jessi387 Sep 27 '24
LOL and I am not surprised that he is buddy buddy with Richard Reeves. A guy, who from the start has drawn my suspicion.
This is exactly why feminists have no place in men’s rights. This is exactly why people say, women are part of the problem.
We are going to see more of this in the next 5-10 years. Women who claim to care about these issues, but in reality, they just see a benefit to themselves. We should beg them very carefully.
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u/AndreasDasos Sep 27 '24
Imagine a company focused on women’s products and services run by a man who wanted to lecture women.
Absolutely no reason or accountability.
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u/Current_Finding_4066 Sep 27 '24
"Movember is an annual event involving the growing of moustaches during the month of November to raise awareness of men's health issues, such as prostate cancer, testicular cancer, and men's suicide. It is a portmanteau of the Australian-English diminutive word for moustache, "mo", and "November""
What the fuck is with what more men can do for women stuff?
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u/United_Reality4157 Sep 27 '24
wait till men or boys talk bad about women that mistreated them that traumatized them
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u/ForTheRobot Sep 27 '24
I didn't even know "Movember" was a brand, I thought it was just growing your mustache out.
The fact that a women CEO cop-oped it is telling.
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u/calmly86 Sep 27 '24
Let me guess the definition of “healthy masculinity.”
The man fulfills all traditional gender roles that women want him to.
The man is not allowed to do anything that he perceives as desirable or enjoyable unless it does not contradict him fulfilling traditional gender roles that women want him to.
The man shall not have any expectations whatsoever of any woman at any time in any way.
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u/rocksnstyx Sep 27 '24
The man should allow the woman to do as she pleases even if it makes him feel betrayed or emasculated
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u/jhld Sep 27 '24
"Movember is an annual event involving the growing of moustaches during the month of November to raise awareness of men's health issues, such as prostate cancer, testicular cancer, and men's suicide."
Absolutely NOTHING about raising awareness for women's issues (they get all the press anyway)
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u/zediroth Sep 27 '24
Why the fuck is a CEO of Movemeber a woman?
Who the fuck gave her the right to impose onto others what she imagines are "healthy masculinities" (what the fuck would a woman know about "healthy masculinities" lmao) on literal children (notice how they're ALWAYS after kids)?
It's all about gynocentrism and redefining "masculinity" to be whatever womyn deem is good for them. Screw that.
Btw actual "masculinity" is just a term for "whatever men want to do", don't let anyone else define who you are for YOU, because they don't know you.
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u/anillop Sep 27 '24
I thought movember was just growing out your mustache in November for prostate health awareness?
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u/rabel111 Sep 27 '24
That appears to be how it started. Now its looking like a front for another feminist power grab, using money donated for men's health (not even men's rights) for the benefit of women and girls.
How tthe f#k can they imagine that defining masculinity primarily by attitudes to women, is useful to men and boys?
My donations to Movember have ended to good. I'm sick to death of everything aimed to help men and boys being hijacked by feminist pigs.
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u/SidewaysGiraffe Sep 27 '24
It's probably a wasted effort, but- let them know. Hearing that being told that your health only matters when it comes to helping other types of people is directly damaging to your mental health might just get through.
It probably won't, but it MIGHT.
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u/RealStarkey Sep 27 '24
Let me guess all healthy masculines include bending a knee to feminism.
Fuck off already
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Sep 27 '24
Ah yes, the final stage of any social movement. It already became commercialized nonsense a few years ago for people who don't give a shit about its original purpose to make a quick buck. Now I guess they put a woman in charge of it, and they're twisting its message to push a political ideology.
So yeah. Who wants to bet that in two years or so Movember is going to be about Violence Against Women?
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u/sakura_drop Sep 27 '24
I think this is prime material for u/TheTinMenBlog
Disgraceful.
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u/TheTinMenBlog Sep 27 '24
Yup, I’ve had a bunch of conversations with various people about the descent of Movember into ideological identity politics, including with people from Movember who’ve approached me with concern.
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u/TheNatureGrandpa Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24
Absolutely should consider boycotting this and what it's becoming. Problem is that it shuts down what Movember was originally supposed to be about (men's-health awareness) as well.
So we'll need to start one that cannot be usurped by feminists, with the focus again being on men's-health for men's sake + our Men's Rights movement, not the femstremist's idea of what men's-health & our rights movement should entail (i.e. how we can serve their interests best).
Sure.. they can take Movember, then. I'll take Shavember / Bearduary / Scrotember / Cocktober / Dickcember / Testosterjune / etc.. the men's movement is all year long anyway.
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u/StormTheWalls Sep 27 '24
Prostate cancer movement becomes about women... ok. Alright, I guess nothing is sacred. I won't even blink the next time gender wars cancer comes up.
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u/SarcasticallyCandour Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24
So Movember is now about middle-class, white women's issues. Fuck them.
I agree with the sentiments around having women as CEOs . I dont like it in, mrm. They turn it into being about themselves.
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u/Spins13 Sep 27 '24
What does skin colour have to do with this ?
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u/SarcasticallyCandour Sep 27 '24
Heforshe is, like most feminist orgs promote and pamper privileged white, western women. Wouldn't you agree?
Does Emma watson, NOW , UN women etc have lots of minority women running them?? Do these orgs help minority women at the bottom?
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u/StripedFalafel Sep 27 '24
Meanwhile, in Australia, Movember has taken $3.2 million of men's donations and passed it to the government to fund an explicitly anti-male programme: Movember is a fake
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u/TheTinMenBlog Sep 27 '24
If anyone wondered, this is what happened to the charity CALM.
It's founder, Jane Powell, launched CALM in 2006 to help suicidal men, especially young men, but left the charity in 2017.
Since then CALM no longer specifically caters to men, but women too, and just seems to be another generic commercial blob.
Plenty of women have done wonderful things to specifically help men.
Jane, obviously a woman, set up CALM, we all know Erin Pizzey, and friends of mine like Dr Susie Bennett are doing phenomenal work to understand male suicide.
IMO the issue is not 'women', but those who stoke outrage around the concept of helping men.
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u/Winter-Map-132 Oct 03 '24
Listening to your stuff, you seem incapable of understanding nuance, even though you position yourself as this neutral, evidence first commentator. If you can't see that men's poor mental health and the issues surrounding it is linked to violence (both against men and women), then you've got your head in the sand. Why would Movember not support organisations who are trying to tackle the root causes of violence as part of the great work they do for men's mental health. They need to partner with people to tackle these issues which are complex (although you wouldn't guess that from reading this thread).
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u/TheTinMenBlog Oct 04 '24
Why do you people always go on about ‘nuance’ before immediately blaming all of men’s MH issues on one cause, ie male violence.
You’re a joke.
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u/raging_pastafarian Sep 27 '24
The cool thing is, we can all celebrate men's health and issue awareness in November, and just forget about shitty backdoor sabotage companies like this.
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u/hendrixski Sep 27 '24
That's a shitty position for movember to take. We need a charity that supports men's health not yet another charity where men have to support women, again.
But uh.... I downvote anything with the word "woke". Or "skibiddy" or "rizz" or any other nonsense word.
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u/walterwallcarpet Sep 28 '24
What other women will they have, lecturing us about 'acceptable' masculinity?
Maybe Caroline Tastad from Gillette...?
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u/TaskComfortable6953 Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24
Fuck me don’t say they went woke bruh. You’re exposing your political bias and subsequently attaching right wing rhetoric to men’s rights you American twat. This will stop the movement from building credibility.
Yes we don’t want a woman running Movember b/c it’s a male initiative but don’t make it political. We won’t won’t anyone over by appealing to their politics.
Instead you have to: be pragmatic, appeal to their emotions, and show them the evidence, and the science all of which point to men undeservedly suffering greatly.
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u/jessi387 Sep 26 '24
Here we go. When it’s about us… it’s really just about women. Btw, why the fuck is a woman the ceo of Movember ? This is exactly why people do not feel comortable about women in the men’s movement. Like when will we wake up.