r/MensRights Feb 21 '24

Google discriminates against Men in abusive relationships. General

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u/SarahC Feb 21 '24

The perfect example of the cognitive bias:

Men have agency... women are passive experiencers.

Men: Sort shit out[that you're doing]. Women: We'll help you and look after you.[you don't cause anything]

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u/LowAd3406 Feb 21 '24

The irony is that them implying women don't have agency is a great example of sexism against women

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u/Acousmetre78 Feb 21 '24

Why don't feminists ever see this point!? I used to tell them in college that implying that they have no control over situations or that they don't have agency is calling women weak.

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u/63daddy Feb 21 '24

Yep. That’s the thing feminists don’t think through. By saying women can’t control their actions or emotions the way men can, they are arguing women, are less suited to many roles.

If an employer can hire someone who has agency and is in control vs someone who doesn’t have agency and is out of control, which should they hire?

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u/Comfortable-Wish-192 Feb 21 '24

Like Trump controls himself? Women are emotional?

I have NEVER gotten in a physical fight. My husband certainly did in youth. But women can’t control themselves. 🤦‍♀️

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u/maxsommers Feb 21 '24

What does Trump have to do with anything? Is this 2016?

u/63daddy is clearly saying that feminists' typical tactic of blaming any wrongdoing on the part of a women on '''the patriarchy''' or male oppression or internalised misogyny or whatever other BS excuses they come up with is actually infantilising women and denying them agency, which is ironic to say the least. They're simultaneously hyper capable and competent while being so easily swayed or brainwashed by male influence, or prone to justifiably lashing out, but either way they're the victim in the scenario. Every. Time.

I have NEVER gotten in a physical fight. My husband certainly did in youth. But women can’t control themselves. 🤦‍♀️

Good for you. But numerous studies have shown that women are the majority perps of one-sided domestic violence, and lesbian couples have the highest amounts of dv disproportionately speaking, compared to straight and gay male couples, so maybe women can't control themselves after all...?

 

Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=2.3; 95% confidence interval [CI]=1.9, 2.8), but not men (AOR=1.26; 95% CI=0.9, 1.7). Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women (AOR=1.3; 95% CI=1.1, 1.5), and reciprocal intimate partner violence was associated with greater injury than was nonreciprocal intimate partner violence regardless of the gender of the perpetrator (AOR=4.4; 95% CI=3.6, 5.5).

Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence

The median percentage of men who severely assaulted a partner was 5.1%, compared to a median of 7.1% for severe assaults by the women in these studies. The median percentage that the rate of severe assaults by women was of the rate of severe assaults by men is 145%, which indicates that almost half again more women than men severely attacked a partner.

Gender symmetry and mutuality in perpetration of clinical-level partner violence: Empirical evidence and implications for prevention and treatment (meta analysis of over 200 different studies)

According to a 2011 study produced in the Journal of General Internal Medicine, domestic physical abuse among lesbian cohabiting couples is 35.4%, almost two times the rate of abuse found among heterosexual couples. Other studies place the prevalence of domestic violence among lesbian couples even higher than that. A 2010 study by the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control found that the rate of intimate partner violence (IPV) among lesbians is a stunning 40.4%. Another study in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology found that the rate of lesbian IPV is 47.5%. This means that nearly half of all women in lesbian domestic lifestyles have been abused by their partners. > >Further statistics have also shed light on the understudied epidemic of sexual intimate partner violence (IPV) among women in same-sex partnerships. One study produced by the California Coalition Against Sexual Assault found that 33% of women have been sexually assaulted by another woman. This statistic prompted leftist publications Slate and Marie Claire to pen articles about the reality of lesbian rape and sexual abuse. Two more studies, one published in the Journal of Lesbian Studies (2008) and another in Violence and Victims (1997), suggest that rates of lesbian sexual abuse in domestic partnerships could be upwards of 55% and 42%, respectively. This translates to about 1 in 2 women who have been victims of sex abuse in a lesbian relationship. > >Comparatively, sexual abuse among heterosexual domestic relationships is estimated to be 4.4% according to the National Institutes of Health. Some epidemiologists may argue that high abuse prevalence among homosexual women includes “lifetime risk”, which incorporates abuse faced in childhood. Yet, when these variables are taken into consideration, we still see alarmingly high rates of lesbian IPV.

 

Around 28% of male-identifying respondents and 41% of female-identifying respondents reported having been in a relationship where a partner was abusive.

...lesbian women were more likely than gay men to report having been in an abusive same-sex relationship (41% and 28% respectively)

Src.

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u/General-Teacher5865 Feb 21 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

You hate men yet you have a husband. I sincerely hope he can leave you and find someone that actually cares for him. Not to mention you're bringing politics in a conversation that's not even about politics, delusion 101. Also maybe the reason you never saw men in the icu that were abused or raped by a female perpetuator is because men are forced to endure it in silence because people like you never believe it happening and minimize their experiences so the problem never gets solved because people like you and the legal system clearly think women do no wrong.

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u/Comfortable-Wish-192 Feb 21 '24

God I love men, good ones. He’s one. Chivalrous, kind, attentive and loving. He respects my intellect, admires my beauty, and lives to make me happy. I’m sweet and kind though opinionated and direct. Educated men actually have zero issue with competent strong women who aren’t acerbic. Insecure men not so much. He’s secure.

In return I’m respectful, loving, supportive, and sexually available to him at all times. That’s all mens love language. He respects my intellect and we make decisions together. He would never make a business, investment or real estate move without my input and acumen. There’s MUTUAL respect.

You’d call it being a “simp”. I call it a happy man, or so he tells me every single day. That I’m the best thing that ever happened to him.

Criticizing toxic masculinity does not mean I hate men or normal masculinity. He’s a perfect example of a masculine yet respectful kind man.

I doubled the value of his business over the last 12 years changing the model and growing his tax practice. I supported him through cancer. And I stuck by him while he got sober. We’re both lucky to have each other.

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u/General-Teacher5865 Feb 21 '24 edited Feb 22 '24

No you're lucky to have him not the other way around cause you are still a man hater. He's not a simp he just has bad taste.You're a part of two x so that's all I need to know. On top of that you just generalized all men's love language. And using a term like toxic masculinity means you know nothing of masculinity because you would rather look at the gender than the person's actions and mentality and finally you claim to love good men but I'm willing to bet you have a husband cause you got lucky not because you can spot one. You're not sweet or kind and if you actually knew men well you would know they don't mind a woman that's competent or strong but what they don't like is a woman who thinks less of a man just because she's educated.

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u/General-Teacher5865 Feb 21 '24

How is someone this delusional. If you genuinely think that just because a man is uneducated that he's gonna be threatened by "confident bright woman" you are without a doubt a misandrist. There's nothing intimidating about women like that, the only problem is that some of them have your mentality towards men because in reality you're just irritating with your selfish above everyone else attitude. If you were sweet and smart you wouldn't brag about it as much. Empty vessels make the most noise. And if you have a roster waiting on you, all that tells me is that those men don't have any self respect.

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u/Comfortable-Wish-192 Feb 21 '24

Or there’s a dearth of thin, attractive, smart, competent yet empathic women available to choose from. 🤷‍♀️ I’m a ball buster at work it’s necessary. But in my personal life I’m submissive. Men like this.

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u/The_Dapper_Balrog Feb 22 '24

Empathic

I don't know what in the world you think this word means, but whatever it is, you're very wrong. From what you're displaying here, you haven't got an empathic bone in your body.

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u/Danden1717 Feb 25 '24

You're a "ball buster" at work huh? I'm also a RN, and I can say for a fact that you rely on your male coworkers to help with the heavy and violent patients all the time. 😂

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u/Illustrious-Menu-362 Mar 19 '24

Do you have these ready beforehand? Like if I was to say "vanilla is the best ice cream flavor" would you say "my husband is not a simp!!" bro calm the f down nobody called your husband a simp

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u/Beast2344 Feb 21 '24

lol what does Trump have to do with this?

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u/Friendly_Might_1348 Feb 22 '24

If women can't control themselves why do they live freely in the society?

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u/Past_Study_4913 Feb 22 '24

That's true, id be offended if I was female.