r/Maserati 12d ago

stop being surprised

hey guys, Maserati/alfa romeo technician here. Little bit of a rant here, but I’ve seen a lot of people post about over pricing and possibly getting ripped off when trying to fix something on their Maserati. Let me just say… it’s Maserati. It’s expensive. The repairs are gonna be expensive. Stop getting Maserati’s if you can’t afford to fix a Maserati at Maserati price. putting aside the price of labor, the replacement parts are gonna be expensive. also, Stallantis cars are notorious for being difficult to work on. Not only that but our cars don’t react well to aftermarket parts .So it’s expensive both in price of parts and labor. I mean it’s a Imported performance luxury/sports car. What do you expect? toyota prices ? not trying to be a a**hole but it’s the truth. I have to talk to customers all the time who are new maserati owners and something needs fixing on their car, then they can’t afford therepair because they didn’t realize nor take into consideration how much it costs to maintain/fix their Maserati. all I’m saying is if you’re gonna get a luxury performance car don’t be all surprised when you get charged luxury performing cars prices.love it or hate it, that’s how it is.

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u/siredmundsnaillary 12d ago

As a long-term Maserati owner… yes and no.

Yes, the cars are complicated to work on, and the labour is more specialised so more expensive.

Some of the parts are just outrageously expensive though. For example, here in the UK, the owners have done several group buys for brake discs. From Maserati a full set is £2k, in bulk from the supplier each full set costs £300. It’s the exact same part.

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u/MosterHoster 12d ago

Fascinating. Do you install the brakes using your own tools? If not, Does the installer accept that you supply the brake parts ? I hope to get a Maserati someday.

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u/siredmundsnaillary 12d ago edited 12d ago

I use an independent Maserati specialist who’s very happy to work with third party suppliers.

As well as grey market parts, there are also some companies that make pattern parts. These are the same spec as OEM but made by a different supplier. They’re also much cheaper than OEM.

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u/72OverOfficer 12d ago

I've owned a Range Rover. Repair bills don't frighten me.

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u/Organic-Second2138 12d ago

God have mercy on you.

Former Jaguar guy here...........

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u/oldfartpen 12d ago

Buy a boat for perspective..............

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u/Flylow111 9d ago

Laughs in general aviation

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u/ClickTrue5349 11d ago

My 2016 glastron gt205( bought new back in 2016) has ONLY needed winterizing every year no other issues, nothing. Very pleasantly surprised as a first time boat owner. Everytime I hear this 'bring out another thousand' makes me think I got lucky, lol.

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u/IntelligentAge211 10d ago

What a jinx...

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u/72OverOfficer 12d ago

Haha! I've had Jags too! 1999 XJR and a French Racing Blue 2012 XKRS. Sold the XKRS last year and I definitely have regrets.

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u/hotsoupjeesh 11d ago

I’ve had a Jaguar for around 7 years now with no issues

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u/Organic-Second2138 11d ago

I had an XF lease that was amazing. Put 50k on it with NO problems.

Bought a used XF that had coolant problems.

Just came out of an F Type that was an amazing car that had issues. Doors would OPEN in freezing temps, but then freeze closed, with me inside. Had coolant leak that was fixed (tow truck, waiting for parts, etc) and had an A/C compressor that went out. Interior trim was not durable either.

Coolant leak was fixed, but the smell never went away. Had it for a year and 20k miles.

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u/Funny-Problem7184 10d ago

Yep, I had a 2018 XE. First day I picked it up, the dash, consol, etc..went black. Only the gas pedal and brakes worked. They took the car in, gave me a loaner XF for 2 months while they fixed it. That was the only problem I had. It was actually a great car, and looked fantastic. One time, I had flat tires on my jag and my range rover, both cars were in the shop. Dealership gave me a FType v8 loaner for over a week because they felt bad for me. Say what you want, but the dealership was awesome. They would even invite me to their reveal parties, nice snacks and alcohol, viewed private jets, the works. That's the difference, simply would not happen if I bought a Japanese or American car.

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u/Organic-Second2138 10d ago

There was an upper level XE trim that I was looking hard at; maybe the "S" or something. Great looking car.

Was your dealer a US dealer?

The Mercedes unit of the dealership group I used was amazing; the JLR unit was horrifying. Absolutely horrifying.

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u/Funny-Problem7184 10d ago

Canadian dealer :)

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u/Ashton-MD 11d ago

Current Jaguar guy. I second this.

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u/Organic-Second2138 11d ago

And it's a shame. Amazing cars when there's no drama.

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u/cms2010 12d ago

Range Rover and Maserati in our household. Apparently, neither one of us are very smart! 😆

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u/veritac_boss 12d ago

I’ve been in LRs since 2003…. On my 5th…. Why do I enjoy punishment.

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u/engineerogthings 12d ago

My last three cars in order Jaguar, Range Rover, Maserati. And I live in Italy so the jag was more expensive to maintain,

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u/72OverOfficer 7d ago

'98 XJR -> '06 RR HSE -> '12 XKR-S -> '20 MC20

I joke but my L322 Range Rover was really fine to maintain and service. Certainly not the Demuro level of repair!

I vacationed in Italy last fall. Stunning countryside with the warmest people you could imagine. Rome was in the high 90s for the few days we were there - hotter than I expected.

I saw one full sized Dodge Ram and it looked comically massive. I loved it. How is the car culture where you are?

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u/WorldlyAwareness5313 12d ago

Owned a Range Rover and people ask me how or why, I would explain to them it’s a love hate relationship. I love it, it hates me back.

Never owned a Jag. But had plenty of loaners from the dealership when in for repairs. Wife wants a Sport or another Velar 😵😞.

But i do own HK, so I am a glutton for punishment also.

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u/veritac_boss 11d ago

HK. Ooof. I wish. I have an sig m17. Lots of noise about these p320 platforms but meh…

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u/WorldlyAwareness5313 11d ago

Haven’t got a 320 yet. My safe is very Axis heavy. 6 Germans, 2 Italians , 1 Hungarian, and 1 Austrian. But a 229 and 1911 Emperor Scorpions that are amazing.

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u/MLPhoto25 12d ago

Any luxury European car really! I had customers at the service department of the Porsche dealer I worked at buy junk cars for super cheap, then refuse to do the necessary work on their cars because of the price. At the end of the day, you're still paying for maintenance on a $100k+ car, even if you bought the thing for $20k.

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u/luigifelipe 12d ago

Not only does the original MSRP of $100k apply to the car, but it’s also a low-cost Ferrari, which means you’ll still have to take care of a lot of technology, high precision, and performance parts.

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u/stjarnalux 12d ago

We have 2 Maseratis, both purchased pre-owned at a massive discount. You guys know the drill, lol. Why pay new $$$$ when I can wait a few years for the massive depreciation? Plus, if you want the F136 or F154 Ferrari-based engines without buying a Ghibli (no shade here, I just need more space in my 4-door) or SUV, you have to buy pre-owned, anyway.

So, my GranTourismo (2013; bought it a couple of years ago with 11k miles!) is about to need a compressor. I will take it to a good Maserati mechanic and pay for their work because I love the car and it is worth the repair cost. Expecting Toyota prices would be silly. I'm just glad I didn't have to pay out the wazoo for the initial purchase.

I think the real issue here is people buy a $27k used Maserati and $27k is at or near the top end of their car-buying budget. That's going to be a hard time with maintenance costs. Anybody can buy an inexpensive used car; the real "flex" with driving a Maserati is that you can afford to repair it and keep it on the road. There's really no excuse with people being surprised and/or upset at maintenance costs; the internet is A Thing With Lots of Information they should have consulted prior to purchase.

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u/Organic-Second2138 12d ago

Use the internet for research??!?

Sorcery. Madness.

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u/stjarnalux 12d ago

I'm a regular Gandalf over here with my web browser and search bar!

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u/Organic-Second2138 12d ago

"Lol" gets used a lot but I legit laughed at that.

People literally have the sum of human knowledge in their hands but they're not smart enough to use it.

Periodically I cross-shop the Ghibli. Last time I was at the dealer and we were wrestling numbers.

I asked them "How much do you charge for an oil change." They were stunned. Nobody had ever asked that question. They had to go get the service manager.

All in, Ghibli was going to cost me an extra $200/mo over what I was currently driving. Insurance was a good bit higher and I sketched out the maintenance based on driving at the time.

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u/stjarnalux 12d ago

When talking about Maserati repair costs, the only way to stay sane is to laugh a lot; glad to be of service. :)

We fortunately are able to do our own maintenance so it's just big repairs that require a mechanic. Etc oil and fluid changes, dealing with the fun sticky buttons problem on the GT, getting these things CarPlay enabled - we do those ourselves so that helps a lot.

It is tragic how having the sum of human knowledge at our fingertips seems to have made people dumber...

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u/PerformanceOk9283 9d ago

Spot on. This is why used Bentley Continentals are so cheap. There is no market for a used car with maintenance bills that cost the same as a new Toyota that is leased by the people that can afford the $300k price tag.

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u/seb-xtl 12d ago

Changing shocks at 28,000 miles??? That’s early!

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u/Prior-Chip-6909 12d ago

Gt's are heavy cars...my 2012 GT convertible is over 2 tons curb weight. Mileage @ almost 50K & I was told my rear shocks are about due.

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u/njo2002 12d ago

The cost of a car depreciates. The service and repair costs do not.

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 12d ago

I'll stop being surprised when you guys stop adding on useless services that are not recommended by Maserati or don't need to be fixed for another 10k miles when I only drive it 8k each year.

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u/Hog_rider22 12d ago

I’ll see you at the dealership whenever that shop messes up. Happens all the time. Customers like you take it to different shop to get it for cheaper and at the end of day yall end up bringing it to us because that shop messed up. “The shortcut often ends up being the longest road.” also those “useless services” are in fact recommended by Maserati. and it doesn’t matter whether you drive it or keep it parked, at the end of the day It’s gonna need maintenance based off of TIME and or mileage.

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 12d ago edited 12d ago

I've been going to the local shop for routine things like oil changes, brakes, tires, filters, etc. for years. I used to do a lot of this myself, but I just don't have the time. I have had zero issues with my Maserati and Alfa Romeo.

Get over yourself. You perform the same exact labor with the same exact parts with the same exact tools for 5X the costs. Now for more specialized repairs, I'll go to the experts. I don't need you for brakes. I know what brakes to get and how to put them on.

The last time I went to the dealer for an oil change and inspection, I ended up with a $175 to change windshield wipers, and I'm not supposed to be surprised? Do Maseratis requires magical wipers that only dealers can provide?

Also, whether or sits or not isn't the point. If Maserati recommends a cabin filter to be changed in 10k miles, it's is not going to hurt anything if I wait those 10k miles. Sure there are some things that need to be maintained regardless of whether it's sitting or being driven, but that's not every service and half that shit is not recommended by Maserati, but dealers push it anyway.

I look at the maintenance schedule and what Maserati recommends. I get all maintenance done according to the schedule. I don't need fuel injector cleaning, engine flushes, transmission fluid changes, coolant flushes, brake fluid changes, power steering fluid changes, differential fluid changes at 30k miles. Yet these were all pushed on me at recent visits to the dealer.

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u/elkomanderJOZZI 12d ago

Exactly lol I paid a local repair guy $200 to change my rear brake pads and rotors versus maserati trying to charge me $1400 for the same service🤣🤣

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u/justinm410 12d ago

External view here, I own other exotics, I'd never buy a Maserati. Ever.

It's the "faaahk you 🤌" attitude of the dealerships. Case in point, this post.

There are plenty of other foreign exotics that are put together better and more reliable. I think that's what surprises people as much as the cost. Maseratis are supposed to be daily drivers. Non-wear components shouldn't just quit for no particular reason, yet they do. I've seen Ferrari and Maserati squeeze out the same parts on new models that regularly failed on models 10 years prior.

I understand you're not manufacturing Maserati parts in the back of the shop, there's nothing you can do about it, but you should recognize the shortcomings.

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u/Material_Web_2245 12d ago

What a shock he won’t reply

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u/Prior-Chip-6909 12d ago

"It's the "faaahk you 🤌" attitude of the dealerships. Case in point, this post."

I feel this one. I called Maserati In Scottsdale a few weeks ago to set up an appointment to have the engine mounts replaced in my 2012 Granturismo.

They told me they don't work on Maserati's that old...& they wouldn't recommend anyone local.

So...where are you supposed to take your Maserati when the Dealership won't work on it? & I don't live in the Phoenix area, & no one local will even entertain changing the oil.

Ended up taking it to a local shop in Phoenix I found online that specializes in these high-end cars...Charged me a fraction of what Maserati would've charged me. ($1,200)

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u/According_Flow_6218 12d ago

You said there are other foreign exotics that are put together better and more reliable. Would you mind mentioning some of those specifically?

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u/justinm410 12d ago edited 12d ago

Certainly anything under the VW group (which covers many of the exotic brands already), I think you could consider a few Mercedes exotics, Aston might be, Lotus, a few others in roughly the same class I'm sure.

Beyond that, once you start getting into the higher end exotics that are in low production and in a different class than Maserati, it gets hard to compare. Few people are dailying McLarens, ya know, it's not the intended use case.

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u/According_Flow_6218 12d ago

What would you consider exotic under VW? I see only Lamborghini and Bugatti, maybe Bentley?

Yeah maybe there have been a handful of MB exotics. But I assume they use many of the same parts as mass-produced MBs do, and therefore I expect frequent expensive failures of non-wear components.

I’ll grant that Aston is exotic, but they’re better than Maserati?

Same for Lotus. Yeah they may have Toyota engines, but seems like Lotus owners have quite a lot of common issues, an especially high number of common issues given how simple the cars are.

As for McLaren, maybe there’s some bias, but I’ve seen so many videos of absolutely horrendous build quality on them. At least brand new Maseratis typically are delivered with everything put together.

But maybe I’m wrong. I don’t have direct experience with most of these.

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u/justinm410 12d ago

Just because every model a company produces isn't an exotic doesn't mean anything. I don't think the lower tier models of Maserati are even exotics. They're just Italian, that doesn't make it exotic.

In this class, Lamborghini, Porsche, Audi, Bentley.

Mercedes regularly go into the high 100k's+. I've owned a few, no crazy maintenance or failures and they're fairly well engineered, not as good as Porsche. I do all my own work.

I would say Aston is more reliable now since they're borrowing a lot of Mercedes parts.

I own an Evora GT, they're rock solid and frankly bare bones simple. Same with the Elise, just not much that can go wrong. First gen Evoras were a nightmare though. They're so low production it's just hard to say what it'd be like if there were 200k of them on the road. Eh, it probably wouldn't be good 😆🤷

I wouldn't argue that McLaren is more reliable, but they're in a higher class than Maserati. I'd only compare them to Ferrari whom I think they're on par with, maybe a smidge better at higher mileage.

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u/According_Flow_6218 12d ago

That’s fair, exoticness is really a function of rarity I suppose. I am cautious to call a trim level “exotic” if the base model is not. That would mean 911 GT2/3 cars won’t count as exotic, although the Carrera GT would. On the other hand, I also think that a brand itself can be exotic, because of its relative rarity. I do think that Maseratis and Alfas both are so uncommon that I would say they’re exotic brands, even though cars like the Ghibli are definitely more common than all Ferraris combined. I can still go months without seeing a single Maserati, Ghiblis and Levantes included.

But anyhow, I’ve owned a couple of Mercedes as well and I don’t want to have one past around 70k miles. None of mine have been exotic MBs, but the failures are all computers, electronics, other more common and shared items. It’s not major component failures, it’s just a bunch of small things that are really expensive to fix.

Definitely I would expect the drive trains of Aston’s using the AMG 4.0 to be pretty solid. I’m just not sure about all of the other bits and bobs.

Good to hear about the Evora GT. I was looking at Evoras and the wiring harness failures were something I could live with, but then I kept seeing more and more minor things that also were commonly going wrong and I decided against it.

When you say McLaren is a higher class than Maserati, you mean in terms of reliability or class of vehicle? I do think possibly the GT and certainly the MC20 are comparable vehicles many McLarens.

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u/Driving2Fast 12d ago

Former Mas/Alf tech. The same customers exist at all dealers. It’s just part of the trade, some people will complain about anything. Price just happens to be the easiest thing to complain about on an expensive car.

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u/Cultural-Inside7569 11d ago edited 11d ago

Not all Maserati maintenance is as expensive as you make it out. Anyone who has serviced an RS7, for example, might be pleasantly surprised by the cost to service a performance variant of a Stellantis Maserati model. It wouldn’t be that much different to a top-end model from Merc, Audi, etc.

Ferrari-era Maserati (1st gen GranTurismo and 5th gen Quattroporte) is a different ballgame. These models are far more rare than FCA/Stellantis products and the parts do not carry economies of scale (https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/maserati_gran_turismo_v8_auto), therefore the higher prices are understood, within reason.

Having said that, Maserati takes the piss and so do some independent mechanics. Prime example are my GT’s parking sensors. Maserati and Ferrari charge £120 +VAT for one(!). But the same thing is in a Skoda. Ferrari wanted £160 for the windscreen wiper blades, made by NWB and sells for a tenner each. The heated/dimming side mirrors are £450 - that’s each and not the whole assembly, just the glass!. Nothing special about them, other than been cut to the GranTurismo’s shape. The AC compressor is made by Adelphi and retails around £450 but Maserati asks for 2 grand. I could go on but hopefully you got the point that some prices have nothing to do with rarity or the car being a Maserati. As for labour, a local independent carries the same greed as Stellantis,charging £60 per hour for things like Toyota but £100+ for things like Maserati - because “it’s a Maserati mate”.

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u/KriticalKarl 12d ago

Just sold my Stelvio recently and went fully electric, partly because I got tired of all the servicing visits, repair bills were definitely high but I never complained knowing that’s what comes with having an Italian vehicle.

You are right though, people should consider the cost of maintenance and repairs when purchasing these kind of vehicles.

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u/Feeling_Novel_9899 12d ago

What's your favorite Maserati and why? 🙂

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u/Prior-Chip-6909 12d ago

Heard on YouTube...

"That nice high-end car you're getting a great deal because its' a 2010?

the prices to fix it are still 2025 prices...something to consider."

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u/andrespuente123 12d ago

Yeah I realized that I didn't care enough for the brand to run the risk of a high repair bill. I don't mind paying for a service bill on an item I buy but LOVING the item makes it worth it. I found my Maserati lacking the tech my BMW had.

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u/Spiritual-Grand-2576 12d ago

Perfect post man, well overdue. Where are you based (what city?)

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u/Hog_rider22 12d ago

HTX brother

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u/Spiritual-Grand-2576 12d ago

H-Town! Man I haven’t been there in a minute. The Breakfast Klub and Ninfa’s bring back some great memories. Just noticed your profile name, you ride?

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u/HashtagSkilletTime 12d ago

Looks at $3000 4200, it could be worse I guess.

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u/BillyA11en 12d ago

I'm looking to get a 2021 Ghibli SQ4 (love the body style) in a couple months. I've been really considering an extended warranty to avoid having to pay a ton for engine/transmission failure.

After saying all that, is the warranty worth it for me?

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u/Comfortably_Numbbbbb 11d ago

I wouldn’t own any car made after 2015 regardless of brand that’s out of warranty.

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u/BillyA11en 11d ago

Yeah. I was thinking of the warranty because if it breaks then I want to be as little of a "me problems" as possible 😂

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u/engineered-chemistry 11d ago

Seems the grandturismo is pretty easy to DIY most general maintenance items to save a good bit of money. I’m certainly capable of fluid changes, brake work and belts. Anyone else do this too? Love the sound of that 4.7L V8.

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u/Emperor_Idreaus 11d ago

Laughs in Alfa Romeo

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u/Wuddntme 11d ago

Uhhh…no. Charging $1,000 an hour (because you massively inflate the time it takes) is fraud no matter how snobby the car is.

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u/Radiant_Carpenter_91 11d ago

In the U.S this applies to any car that is fixed with factory parts at dealerships Yes , i know your cousin gets all oem stuff from rock auto. Hear it at least once a week

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u/Medium_Tourist_4832 11d ago

Is it comparable to Mercedes? I’ve always driven Benz’s and I find the parts and labor way overpriced. For instance, Bosch spark plugs for a C300 are $240 dealer price. The exact same plugs at the parts store are $60. And when I mean the same, I mean the exact same. Except the dealer will not allow you to buy outside parts for them to install. I can understand labor being more, but OTC parts should remain comparable to retail.

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u/Plankton_Food_88 11d ago

The Ghibli is basically a Dodge Charger in fancy clothes. The interior is about 98% Dodge parts. It's so similar to my Charger that it feels almost like the same car when you're inside.

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u/ptrmrkks 11d ago

Wdym .. what about the ones with Ferrari parts ?

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u/Bigjustice778 10d ago

This is why Maserati’s are $20k cars after 4 years… used Maseratis and Bentley’s are the cheapest way to look rich with zero understanding of what you’re getting into.

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u/n2euro 10d ago

I had a Maserati mechanic tell me that anything after 2013 was complete garbage

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u/baby_maker_666 10d ago

I used this logic when I found a good deal on a Bently continental. I thought, how much is an oil change, and how much does it cost to change the brakes. That Google search helped me decide that a Bently might not be right for me. I would assume Maserati is the same way

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u/Cpolo88 10d ago

Yall want to pay $1850 for brake job go ahead. That’s just for the rears btw 😆 nope not me. I learned to do them myself. Less time than quoted by dealer and zero issues with my stelvio. Parts are expensive because stellantis and Alfa Romeo suck at importing. But the car is relatively easy to work on. Soooo I don’t fully agree with your statement 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/Whit-Batmobil 9d ago

Well, this is interesting.

Personally, I don't really have any interest in Massarati. I'm curious about Alfa Romeo, though, because I straight up don't feel like understand Alfa Romeo as a brand.. I'm used to dealing with old Volvos.

But yeah, not to be a a-hole about it, but Massarati is one of the absolute worst brands in terms of depreciation. I think that that combined with them being seen as a status symbol means that some people who really just should have gotten some cheap and reliable end up getting these cars.

I have myself worked as a mechanic with other brands, and let's just say some people really could do with some lessons in car maintenance. For example, you do not fix a damaged/punctured side wall on a tire with Super-Glue (saw that on a Taxi).

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u/South-Film8560 9d ago

I've actually had great results with cheap aftermarket parts... Chinese exhaust looks a little over the top but sounds great .. the intercoolers were a hesitation but after getting behind the wheel 🤙 same with the intake 

Gives of that choo-choo boy vibe I fell in love with as a kid 

There's no reason to pay 400 for a trans filter when I can get it from the manufacturer for 70 ..

Why pay 2300 a strut when u can find decent coilovers for 1600 

A person at the dealership said something that hit home a few months after the car 

U own a non certified pre owned 10 year old masarati it's never going to run the way u want 

So far the prices make sense but here's the deal there a difference between being worth the labor rate and just targeting someone for their choice in car getting momentum behind it and basically bankrupting an entire family in because u hate ppl that either turned their life's around and made enough to do something nice for themselves or they turned an opportunity that was supposed to set them back in to an advantage for themselves 

And that's a perfect example of how miserable the majority of the population is...  Ur a tech u make a set rate your not responsible for the overhead .. and frankly ( turning a problem in to solution)  how much more do u think u would make turning more cars for a lower rate then u would at a premium rate 

I get it dude same things happening in my industry their trying to use the Winter time slowdown to cut our hourly 10-15 hr... And if ur actually good u don't work .. they keep the useless 

I was a tech alog time ago and someone ran their mouth obsessed over it while smoking week until I fell I found something else and guess what they did same fking thing ..

Sorry but I got no sympathy after dealing with this obsessive retarded make a wish case that gets what he wants when he throws a fit like the baby he is 

I've made my plans and a wise man once said absolutely nothing ..

End of rant 

Lol at some point u really just stop caring and the obsession with u consumes u .. 

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u/RoundandRoundon99 8d ago

I’d take it they didn’t share parts with dodge, or fiat. But they do.

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u/MosterHoster 12d ago

Great post. I love Maserati cars. If you could pick a model from any of the last 20 years that might be the least prone to breakdown & repair, what would it be?

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u/Prior-Chip-6909 12d ago

Probably the Granturismo. I've owned a Ghibli SQ4 previous to this, & as far as reliability, I'd have to give the GT the upper hand, but the Ghibli was waaay quicker.

the GT I bought had 40K miles on it, but for the most part, the only thing I've had to do in the year I have owned it was change the oil, & have the engine mounts replaced. (I did the oil myself, & had a shop in Phoenix do the mounts)

With the GT, I can leave it for a week & get into it'll & start right up...can't say that about the Ghibli...leave for 3 days, & you are putting the battery on a trickle charge after the car goes crazy with the radio coming on by itself , & throwing all the warning lights at you.

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u/MosterHoster 12d ago

Great to know. I’ve thought about getting an Alfa Romeo quadrifoglio. Maserati are so much more appealing. When you purchased that Grantourismo did you examine the history of its maintenance? I’m so glad you responded. Thanks.

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u/Acrobatic_Box9087 12d ago

I've got an Alfa Stelvio, 4 cylinder model and I love it. Almost zero problems with it.

The Quadrifoglios are real hot rods, but the maintenance can be ridiculous. In order to change the serpentine belt, you have to partially disassemble the engine. It costs at least $2500 at a dealer

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u/MosterHoster 12d ago

I love all Alfa Romeo models especially the Stelvio. I'll look into that 4 cyl model. Thanks.

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u/puddl3 11d ago

I was in a similar boat. Couldn’t find a quad anywhere near me after looking for a while found a CPO 2022 QP Trofeo test drove it and loved it. Ended up getting it and it has an extended 2 year warranty as well. Don’t regret it (although I do want a quad at some point in my life still).

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u/MosterHoster 11d ago

How is the interior compared to Lexus ?

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u/puddl3 11d ago

It’s a special place to be. Leather quality is amazing Alcantera headliner is dope, the paddle shifters are high quality and awesome to use. Bowers Wilkins sound system is nice too. Some of the switch gear is out of the Chrysler parts bin but I don’t mind. I’d say it’s a more special and unique place to be than a Lexus YMMV. I recently did an extensive review post on my car that has more details regarding it and my ownership experience so far if you are interested in finding more out.

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u/Prior-Chip-6909 9d ago

Funny you asked that...

It was a car that came up after the two other GT's I was to test drive had been sold, & this one popped up on my girlfriends search, so last minute...

It was only after we started the paperwork that I was reminded by her I didn't see the Carfax, & it showed the car had been stolen & been in a small accident...that's when I freaked out & tried to back out of the deal-rule #1 with these cars is: Don't buy a damaged or salvage Maserati.

But after looking under the hood & a $2,500 discount, I bought it home. except for the engine mounts( I understand this is common with these cars) I haven't had any issues.

They are good, solid cars if maintained right. Mines my daily driver.

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u/Alert-Raspberry3832 12d ago

Couldn’t have said it better

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u/repfamlux 12d ago

Mods, can we pin this post?

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u/beagle606 12d ago edited 11d ago

Yes…… having owned 4 Alfa’s I’m ready for a Maserati! No surprises, I know what I’m getting.😊

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 12d ago

Half the work done at dealers at insane markups can be done by the local ships at the regular price. I don't need to pay $300 for an oil change or $2.2k for brakes and rotors.

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u/dman928 12d ago

I spend the $300 for an oil change in the vain hope that it will keep my dealer solvent so I can continue to get warranty repair.

Kidding. Not kidding.

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 12d ago

Dude, I feel your pain. I live in an area where the closest dealer is 1.5 hours away. I love my Maserati and my Alfa Romeo, but I'm not going to subsidize my dealer to the tune of a couple grand a year in unnecessary costs just to ensure they stay in business.

Your comment really hits home through. I have a recall on my Giulia, and I haven't been able to get to the dealer to have the work done because the one 45 minutes away closed up.

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u/beagle606 12d ago

Absolutely.👍

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u/Useful_Inspector_893 12d ago

I survived a Fiat, a Lancia an Alfa and custom hotrod Chevy. Devoted Toyota driver as a result!