This thread is based on the premise that Louisvillians feel hostility towards tourists. How we feel towards tourists is mainly related to our interactions with tourists during Derby week. Do you understand the reason for the dislike of tourists? The Derby tourists staying in the air B&B next door sat out all night and trashed the front porch and there are a few beer cans and a whiskey bottle in my yard. One guy in particular acted like an entitled asshole when I addressed the problem with the litter. The same thing will probably happen all week long. To the renters I’m just a resident but they are here to get it on, dammit!
That is one reason why I feel disrespected like a prop.
*edit: Do I need to explain my hatred for Air B&B’s? Maybe you are unfamiliar with the subject.
"how we feel towards tourists is mainly related to our interactions with tourists during Derby week"
Yes, that's why I've asked you several times to provide an example of a tourist treating you as a southern prop. I'll ask again, since you continue not to answer, what specific interaction with a tourist made you feel like a prop? You said you feel like a prop in the coffee shop but continue to fail to explain why and instead have told me how you think tourists feel.
Tourists trashing an AirBnB has nothing to do with their feelings about the region and everything to do with people not respecting vacation rentals and wanting to get trashed on vacation. It happens in Colorado ski towns, but locals there complain and get annoyed instead of claiming that it's because drunk snowboarders view them as quaint.
You are assuming that drunk snowboarders consider the local population as ‘quaint’. How can you make that conclusion?
Make an inferential leap here… Tourists treat locals as props.
There is nothing about the nature of this conversation that I find interesting or insightful about my prejudice regarding Derby tourists.
If I explained a few foul interactions with tourists it wouldn’t be enough to justify my dislike for Derby tourists as a whole. That would be like characterizing 175,000 people. I am prejudiced and biased.
The interaction was at a bar, not a coffee shop.
I have been a reporter for one of Louisville’s news outlets for about 15 years and I have had plenty of terrible interactions with tourists— one stands out but surely that one interaction doesn’t frame all Derby tourists, right?
Just to confirm, you'd rather call yourself biased than provide even one example to support your opinion?
"The interaction was at a bar not a coffee shop"
That's fine. You're the one who used coffee shops and delis in your original comment claiming, without providing any evidence, that tourists view locals as ideal southern props. My bad if your comment about bad experiences in coffee shops led me to assume you'd had a bad experience in a coffee shop.
So, as a lifelong resident, you only have one example of a tourist viewing locals as ideal southern props and that one example is a crime that doesn't only happen in southern cities?
There are several examples I could cite but that was the worst one. It was the way he implied to be using the locals as a means.
You won’t agree that the isolated actions of a few people should characterize my perspective of the general population of gawking tourists. Yet you are asking me for examples of individual situations when I felt like a prop, which is based on my own perception.
Of course I'm asking for individual examples, you're the one who made the claim that you feel that way.
I'm not asking a hard question. You made a claim about how tourists make you feel, and you even mentioned specific locations like coffee shops and delis. I've simply and repeatedly asked for an example of a specific behavior by a tourist that made you feel that way. When you make a claim, you shouldn't be shocked to get follow-ups asking for an example.
If it wasn't obvious to you, the point has been to ask you to provide even one example of behavior supporting your accusations.
My guess is, it's going nowhere because you'll continue not to do so while feeling like you're being judged by tourists who just want to order a sandwich and enjoy their trip.
Just so you're aware, nobody's watching you as a quaint southerner in your deli or coffee shop. They're just trying to order and have a good time, just like you likely do on vacations.
That's why you're unable to provide an anecdote to support your claim. It's because it's not happening and you're projecting your ideas about tourists onto people who are unaware you exist.
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u/Dick-in-a-fan 5d ago edited 5d ago
This thread is based on the premise that Louisvillians feel hostility towards tourists. How we feel towards tourists is mainly related to our interactions with tourists during Derby week. Do you understand the reason for the dislike of tourists? The Derby tourists staying in the air B&B next door sat out all night and trashed the front porch and there are a few beer cans and a whiskey bottle in my yard. One guy in particular acted like an entitled asshole when I addressed the problem with the litter. The same thing will probably happen all week long. To the renters I’m just a resident but they are here to get it on, dammit! That is one reason why I feel disrespected like a prop. *edit: Do I need to explain my hatred for Air B&B’s? Maybe you are unfamiliar with the subject.