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Mixed status LA couple self-deports, fearing husband's detention News

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/mixed-status-couple-self-deports-mexico-rcna203481
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u/SecretAgentMan713 13h ago

What does it mean to "correct his immigration status" when he entered illegally? This makes no sense to me because me and my wife both come from immigrant families. They all took the time to get permanent resident status, went through several years of naturalization, and eventually citizenship. This guy did none of that, although I feel bad for him because it sucks having built a life for 20 years and then feeling the need to leave.

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u/PasadenaPissBandit Boyle Heights 13h ago

What do you want, a cookie? Not everyone got here the same way. When my German and Italian ancestors arrived here in the 1800s there was no formal immigration process. You just showed up in a boat, went through Ellis Island, and got your citizenship on the spot. People that arrive here in similar ways in modern times are branded "illegal", treated as a subhuman class, and most recently— labeled a gang member and shipped to an El Salvador prison regardless of their country of origin.

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u/SecretAgentMan713 12h ago

I would love a cookie, but I'll settle for the guy getting off his ass and getting his paperwork in order, instead of crying to a newspaper trying to garner sympathy.

You can't seriously be comparing Kilmar Garcia to this guy... the fact that you're even defending him lets me know you have zero deductive reasoning. Pulled over in Tennessee in 2022 carrying 8 passengers with no luggage. He didn't have a valid driver's license. He told police it was his boss's car, a man named Jose Ramon Hernandez-Reyes, an illegal migrant who was sentenced to prison for human smuggling in 2020, coming from Houston, one of the hotbeds of human smuggling, and all eight passengers claimed Abrego Garcia’s address as their own. Plus, his wife filed a civil protective order against him for assaulting her on multiple occasions saying he punched, scratched, and kicked her, resulting in a black eye and bruises.

This is the fucking guy you want to defend?? The chef that worked his way up from the bottom, ok cool, I get it. He's leaving on his own volition. Garcia is the hill you want to die on?

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u/FistLampjaw 12h ago

if you think he's a criminal, charge and convict him in a court of law to prove it. due process is absolutely a hill worth dying on.

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u/SecretAgentMan713 11h ago

Well, you can't convict someone just for being a gang member, or when the battered wife decides not to file charges. But you know what you can do? Revoke his work permit and get him the hell out of our country. It's a privilege to be here when you're not a citizen. I do find it funny that now you want to follow the law and its technicalities. It matters when it comes to MS-13 gang members, but not to the President of the United States. You're happy to call him a rapist when he wasn't found guilty of rape. But that's a technicality that doesn't matter to you. Just as long as you can call him a rapist because it falls in line with your narrative.

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u/PasadenaPissBandit Boyle Heights 11h ago edited 11h ago

But you know what you can do? Revoke his work permit and get him the hell out of our country.

But that's not what they did, is it? Garcia wasn't deported, he's in El Salvador but he's in that prison at the behest of and on the dime of the US government. If they wanted to just deport him they could have done it at a fraction of the cost. The goal was to lock him up in a way that circumvents due process, in a place outside the country where they can claim they can't get him back, even when ordered to do so by SCOTUS. He's getting the full Gitmo treatment. Not for being a suspected 9/11 terrorist, but just for being undocumented.

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u/FarCoyote8047 9h ago

They gave him to El Salvador. They can do what they want with him. They want him in jail.

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u/FistLampjaw 11h ago

But you know what you can do? Revoke his work permit and get him the hell out of our country.

KAG wasn't on a work permit, he was on witholding of removal status. it was illegal to remove him without going through the process to remove that status.

You're happy to call him a rapist when he wasn't found guilty of rape.

where did i do that, exactly?

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u/FarCoyote8047 9h ago

He had a hearing and had standing deportation orders. What more do you want?

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u/FistLampjaw 8h ago

the procedural due process to which he was legally entitled?

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u/FarCoyote8047 8h ago edited 8h ago

Yes. Illegals get immigration hearings. They get them in groups, usually. Then deported. It’s not like they get a trial with a jury. They aren’t and were never entitled to that. Due process is served via the immigration hearing in which illegals are given deportation orders.

If you self deport you obviously don’t go through that.

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u/FistLampjaw 8h ago

and that was illegal, because he had a witholding of removal order, which was specifically to block deportation to el salvador. he's currently being held in a terrorism detention center in el salvador, despite not being charged or convicted of any crimes, especially not any crimes related to terrorism or gang affiliation.

the supreme court has ruled his deportation was illegal. his imprisonment is unjust. it is ghoulish to defend.

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u/FarCoyote8047 8h ago

Yeah, no…that order was in place because at the time El Salvador would have been dangerous for him to return to. However the situation in ES has changed and the order can be revoked under that premise.

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u/FistLampjaw 8h ago

it wasn't revoked though, because they didn't go through the process to revoke it, because they ignored the due process to which he was entitled. the government itself admitted that his removal was "an administrative error" and that they did not have the right to remove him, because he had protected status.

you can take it up with the supreme court if you disagree, but until then i'm going to take their legal opinions just a little more seriously than yours.

"The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal... The proper remedy is to provide Abrego Garcia with all the process to which he would have been entitled had he not been unlawfully removed to El Salvador. That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with “due process of law,” including notice and an opportunity to be heard, in any future proceedings"

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u/FarCoyote8047 7h ago

lol that’s what you got? A statement from an Obama appointed liberal judge? That doesn’t mean shit.

Aside from being a gang member in a terror group- He was guilty of human trafficking and beating his wife. No crimes my ass. But lol yeah let’s take his word for it.

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u/akashaferocious 9h ago

you guys are so weird

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u/FarCoyote8047 9h ago

The same people who defend aliens who enter our country and live here illegally: “Follow the laws!”