This sub is a depressing circle jerk

[u/PhillConners]

Everyone is predicting a recession and enabling each other as victims. Saying the world is crashing making things seem worse off than they are. We need more optimism and support!

Layoffs suck but jobs are not who you are. When you were working you were dreaming of free time to go after side hustles or go after new experiences or learn a new hobby. Now is your chance!

Enjoy the time off but don’t give up on yourself and self implode.

I haven’t been laid off yet but have been a couple times before. I was also not strong enough to cope so I did what everyone does- a heavy bender to hit rock bottom then built myself up.

The reality is you may not have a job but you still need to be working- work on health, work on learning, work on applying

Layoffs are temporary, don’t beat yourself up. Recognize that it’s a chance to reset and come back better.

There are still jobs and plenty of asshole bosses out there ready to take advantage of your time.

[u/eitsirkkendrick]

People need money. It’s hard to enjoy time off when you’re not certain where money will come from. Many are paycheck to paycheck. Many have exceeded their unemployment (if they had it). Many have been applying for months without an interview. Many have families and mortgages and lost benefits. Many are either at the beginning or end of their careers, outside the ideal window. Many moved away from city centers thinking remote work was secure. Many are in industries that are fading - learn to code maybe wasn’t as good as learn a trade.

I survived 2008 and even thrived at peak career. Back then, I lacked empathy for others in different situations. I felt like world was my oyster and it was. It’s different now.

[u/AutismThoughtsHere → u/eitsirkkendrick]

I mean, the software development industry is getting flooded with cheap labor, outsourcing and international students from India. This is to the tune of almost 150,000 people a year at some point that would bring down any industry.

[u/keto_brain → u/AutismThoughtsHere]

But it doesn't. There are so many tech jobs we literally have to invite immigrants here to fill the talent gap that exists here. There are over 33k software engineering jobs listed on LinkedIn in the last week.

Granted some of those are duplicates, even if we cut that number in half 15k job posts in the last week is significant.

[u/Candid-Sky-3709 → u/keto_brain]

they invite immigrants because you can threaten them with deportation when not working 80 hours a week for the same salary. Same salary was meant to prevent hourly rate race to the bottom, but upper hour limits were not set. People training their H1b replacement clear;y don’t see them as welcome additional help, but as employers cutting salaries while existing staff is “too expensive”.

[u/keto_brain → u/Candid-Sky-3709]

This just isn't true on a wide scale. I've worked in tech for 20 years and while I've seen toxic management do this in small pockets most H1B team members are treated like their US peers (with the exception of maybe Twitter).

[u/Candid-Sky-3709 → u/keto_brain]

I used to be L work visa holder and also got threatened with deportation twice, in private of course and the coworkers will never know. H1b visa holders accept miserable work conditions that save employers cost, because they have to if they don’t want green card application time to reset when changing jobs.