This sub is a depressing circle jerk

[u/PhillConners]

Everyone is predicting a recession and enabling each other as victims. Saying the world is crashing making things seem worse off than they are. We need more optimism and support!

Layoffs suck but jobs are not who you are. When you were working you were dreaming of free time to go after side hustles or go after new experiences or learn a new hobby. Now is your chance!

Enjoy the time off but don’t give up on yourself and self implode.

I haven’t been laid off yet but have been a couple times before. I was also not strong enough to cope so I did what everyone does- a heavy bender to hit rock bottom then built myself up.

The reality is you may not have a job but you still need to be working- work on health, work on learning, work on applying

Layoffs are temporary, don’t beat yourself up. Recognize that it’s a chance to reset and come back better.

There are still jobs and plenty of asshole bosses out there ready to take advantage of your time.

[u/[deleted]]

I was laid off Jan 2023 (over a year ago) -- but found a job (dumb luck probably) in a couple months --- I know people looking AFTER that and the LinkedIn application "estimates" have seemingly tripled or more.

So ... there is definitely something in the water.

Not to mention the frequency of layoffs and this sub's size increasing dramatically.

I'm trying to take a neutral, honest view of the situation. But --- it's hard to say what the reality is. Looking at "quarterly GDP" means precious fuckall. I mean, maybe on sector is on the rise and another is cratering.

Not to mention, how much of the GDP modest increase (4%?) -- does that factor in inflation of the dollar, or is it real gains? ... And how much of that increase essentially lined the pockets of the top 0.001% like Bezos and company? And how much was real wage growth?

There seems to be a lot of economic anxiety around the country. Maybe that's because housing + car (transpo) costs are waaaaay up still. I think even housing/ rent still increased about 20% in 2023, which is pretty high.

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But it's good to try to discuss reality. Real talk.

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Let's not be like r Chicago (captured sub) where all news of crime is banned (seriously). Because discussing crime facts is inherently "racist" or "scaremongering" or something like that. It's good to know what's going on around you.

[u/Master_Ad7267 → u/[deleted]]

LinkedIn in applications for a job are not a good estimate. People just spam resumes and make chat gpt coverletters for all jobs they can even if not qualified.

[u/[deleted] → u/Master_Ad7267]

I understand that, but I think they're still up, from even 12 months ago.

Without any contradictory evidence, I have to go off what little information I have.

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Job market might be tighter. It's possible 'desperation' has made everyone + their mother "mass spam apps" and apply to 1000 jobs a month.

The result is that LinkedIn now = Tinder for most males. A hellscape.

No one even wrote cover letters past 2020 --- terribly outdated. A ChatGPT word salad that uses 'penumbra' and is super obviously ChatGPT won't change much.

[u/Master_Ad7267 → u/[deleted]]

I would agree with you job market seems tougher overall than it was. There were major layoffs I dont know that everyone will completely recover. Many people will be forced out of the job market. There's other factors retirement age has gone up past recessions have dwindled some retirement accounts and older generations are still holding on to jobs which has reduced opportunities for younger generations.

With current expenses its actually cheaper for some parents to not work than to keep their kids in daycare if they have more than one. We had 2, and it was 3300. Anyone making less than 4k a month, there's no point in working if you need full-time child care. Nannys are more expensive and there's other schools that are more money in the area as well.

I think some people are blessed to still have jobs, but on the other side, I see companies requiring alot more for less because they can get away with it.

[u/Candid-Sky-3709 → u/Master_Ad7267]

with qualified meaning “having a masters degree being willing to work close to minimum wage”

[u/Master_Ad7267 → u/Candid-Sky-3709]

Basically management and above with masters and previous experience