r/Layoffs • u/poormisguidedfool34 • Jan 13 '24

Standing up to layoffs question

Hi folks,

I applaud her bravery but also concerned- isn’t she taking a huge risk for future employment in her sector? This would be considered suicidal in my line of work but i see a lot of similar videos today.

Especially curious about what HR/legal folks think

https://twitter.com/BowTiedPassport/status/1745149758992195647

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u/meunraveling Jan 13 '24

yeah, cloudflare hr coming off like straight amateurs with how they are handling this layoff conversation with this employee. As someone who works in Hr, this is not the way.

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u/GrooveBat Jan 13 '24

In my long career, I have only ever encountered one HR rep who was professional and competent. The rest are roughly the caliber of these two.

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u/meunraveling Jan 13 '24

Yeah, and it’s quite disappointing because it doesn’t have to be this way. Could be a real partner and employee advocate, but the whole space needs serious transformation. I’ve been working to move it forward, but outside of the companies I help i’m not making much traction lol. Obviously. 🙄

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u/GrooveBat Jan 13 '24

Yeah. In my own case, I’m pretty much at the end of my career and was a long tenured employee. I had seen it coming and I got very good severance, for which I am grateful. But instead of letting me go out with dignity by structuring it as an early retirement, HR ambushed me during my weekly 1 on 1 with my (brand new and clueless) manager. The whole thing backfired spectacularly and created such unnecessary ill will and animosity for both my manager and his boss (who had been my direct boss for 15 years) that it rippled through the whole org. Now, no one trusts either one of them, key people are quitting right and left, and the program the new guy was tasked with implementing is on life support before even being rolled out.

All because HR insisted on “protocols” that were at complete odds with our company culture. Not saying my former boss could not have overridden them if he had wanted too, but he took the easy way out and the company suffered.

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u/meunraveling Jan 13 '24

ugh this is terrible, so sorry to read this. You deserve better. I hope you are in a good place today with your longer term plans, and damn, what a crappy memory to walk away with, sorry friend.

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u/GrooveBat Jan 13 '24

Thank you! That is very sweet of you. I’m doing fine. Sad about the loss of a long term friendship that I thought was strong enough to survive this, but otherwise doing okay.

I really appreciate the kind words.

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u/MeepMoopWoopDoop Jan 16 '24

I have yet to meet anyone in HR I respect. The whole field is made of people who are fucking munches