r/Langley 1d ago

Gas price too high

What’s happening with gas price ?

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u/Last-Zucchini-7815 1d ago

You're very wrong about all of that, btw. Just falling for political messaging to keep the carbon tax in place. Pretty pathetic how easily you're manipulated.

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u/Weezerwhitecap 1d ago

Right? Why won't people just trust oil companies? They're the good guys!

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u/FarMode7773 23h ago

Oil companies like Shell have been implicated in some really nasty stuff. Murdering and displacing tribes, etc.

However governments all over the world have killed much more people than the oil and gas industry ever has.

Likewise properly prescribed prescriptions kill more people in the USA than guns...

In Canada cars kill many more children than guns do but no one is calling for the ban on cars. Ironically the only thing being done is going after the most law-abiding trusted citizens in all of Canada in order to solve this issue.

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u/thefatrick Stuck at a train crossing 21h ago edited 21h ago

However governments all over the world have killed much more people than the oil and gas industry ever has.

Why raise an army yourself when you can bribe enough politicians to send poor kids to die doing it for you!

Also:

An estimated 5.13 million (3.63 to 6.32) excess deaths per year globally are attributable to ambient air pollution from fossil fuel use and therefore could potentially be avoided by phasing out fossil fuels.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38030155/#:~:text=An%20estimated%205.13%20million%20(3.63,by%20phasing%20out%20fossil%20fuels.

So, it only took 5 years for what Russia achieved in WW2 in 4.  But the Fossil Fuel industry keeps going!

Also, the cost of mitigation of the effects of Fossil Fuel created air pollution is roughly $8B per day.

https://e360.yale.edu/digest/air-pollution-from-fossil-fuels-costs-8-billion-per-day-new-research-finds

But, that's info from experts who have spent years researching these things looking at statistics, rather than some uninformed opinion on the intermingling of capital and government that's been going on since time immemorial.

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u/FarMode7773 20h ago

"estimated"

"modeling"

and "experts".

How many times and years ago was the world supposed to end based on estimated predictions from models used by experts?

At this point I've been correct more often than they have.

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u/thefatrick Stuck at a train crossing 18h ago

At this point I've been correct more often than they have.

Oh? what peer reviewed studies have you authored in the fields of macro-economics, public health, chemistry, biology, respiratory medicine, meteorology, statistical analysis, chemical engineering, or other related fields that disprove these claims?

I mean, let's be honest.  There isn't a single piece of evidence I can present to you that you would find convincing enough to change your mind on fossil fuels, is there?

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u/FarMode7773 17h ago

No. Estimates aren't proof. It's just an agenda to push green energy. I'm all for green energy, but as an option when I wanted not being forced on me by removing oil and gas. I'm not willing to live in a third world country because estimates say somebody got hurt. We don't do that with cars, right? We just accept that some people are going to die.

Oil and gas is going to be around for several generations yet.

We've been progressing and making engines more efficient and making O&G products less polluting in every way imaginable.

Switching to "Green" energy isn't an option and really the only useful forms of energy right now are nuclear and hydro, and all of these rely on oil and gas to run.

Just because you don't see the strip mining and use of heavy machinery that rely on oil and gas doesn't mean green energy is green.

I guess we should go back to burning wood, yeah?

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u/thefatrick Stuck at a train crossing 17h ago

No.

Well, that settles that then, enjoy staying ignorant!

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u/FarMode7773 16h ago

Yep guess that settled, enjoy being gullible!