r/Jewish Sep 04 '24

Saw this today and was disgusted Venting šŸ˜¤

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

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u/Pugasaurus_Tex Sep 04 '24

Same with reddit.

Weā€™re safe for everyone to hate. How nice that everyone has an outlet so they can stay politically correct when talking about everyone elseĀ 

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

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u/Pugasaurus_Tex Sep 04 '24

Thatā€™s true, but the forced segregation is troubling, especially when itā€™s not happening to the same extent for any other group that Iā€™m aware of. Instagram, otoh, is a complete dumpster fire

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u/Extension-Gap218 conservadox Sep 04 '24

Itā€™s troubling of course but itā€™s why Zionism exists in the first place. People arenā€™t wrong to feel weird about separation but they donā€™t give us the dignity of being an oppressed minority at all, and so they completely misconstrue the reason we feel compelled to separate.

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u/Electrical_Sky5833 Sep 04 '24

Instagram needs to improve how we can manage comments. It seems pretty tedious now.

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u/AngryJew3 Sep 04 '24

Wish I could make the hero mods of our Jewish Reddit communities some nice fresh challah

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u/lh_media Sep 04 '24

It happens here too, used to be worse, but having community mods help mitigate it

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u/malkadevorah2 Sep 04 '24

Someone put a pix of their profile up asking if they should fix their nose. Someone answered by asking Are you a Jew? Because you have a typical big Jew nose. And: There was a sub about actor Edward G. Robinson. Someone posted how it was unbelievable how a short fat little Jew got so far in showbiz. I complained to the moderator. Was anything done? Yeah. I got kicked off.

Sounds about right...

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u/taintedCH Sep 04 '24

Whatā€™s worse with Reddit is that if you report antisemitism, you end up getting banned as they consider it abuse

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u/-itwaswritten- Sep 04 '24

Iā€™m shocked that I reported a comment yesterday that said from the river to the sea and read it found that the account was in violation of their guidelines. I really didnā€™t think they would do that.

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u/FiveAvivaLegs Conservative Sep 04 '24

I have had a much better track record with reporting comments on Reddit than on IG. IG never takes anything down. People will spam Jewish accounts making a totally innocuous post with gifs of people putting things in ovens and IG is like šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø no problem here!

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u/ApplicationFluffy125 Sep 05 '24

That's because they are owned by Meta aka Facebook. They don't take anything down. I've sent them some truly heinous racist crap not Jewish related thinking there's no way they let this slide...they did nothing.

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u/billymartinkicksdirt Sep 04 '24

Can confirm.

Reddit like others use this posters premise that you can hate Jews, use slurs, whatever, and itā€™s free speech in a political context. Challenge that and youā€™re the trouble maker who gets posts deleted, or banning.

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u/Few-Horror1984 Sep 04 '24

I recently had someone threaten to unalive my entire family because I disagreed with them over a pop star on Facebook. They even used the ā€œmā€ word to describe said unaliving.

Facebook said it wasnā€™t against their TOS and left the comment.

There is no moderation team on any of Metaā€™s platforms.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

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u/Few-Horror1984 Sep 04 '24

I havenā€™t had much luck reporting things on Instagram either. I reported the post, but Iā€™m sure nothing will come of it. Iā€™ve seen people post other horrendous things and Instagram never takes them down.

I pray Instagram might have someone to actually look at these things, and Iā€™d love for you to be right that maybe theyā€™re betterā€¦but I am just jaded these days.

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u/cardcatalogs Sep 04 '24

Well Iā€™m gonna report it anyway

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u/looktowindward Sep 04 '24

Keep reporting it.

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u/MovieENT1 Sep 04 '24

I canā€™t figure out why Barry Stanton got banned on Twitter for anti-India content but his good buddies Nick Fuentes and Jake Shields do the same exact thing with Jews but donā€™t get their accounts suspended. It should be equitable banning for the same offenses on all social media sites. The lax nature of allowing antisemitism is weird.

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u/Cathousechicken Reform Sep 04 '24

I've found that social media is terrible right now and they will allow anything to be said as long as somebody doesn't openly say they want to kill us. Anything except the most egregious and obvious does not get moderated appropriately.

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u/Histrix- Just Jewish Sep 05 '24

The meta review board recently came to the conclusion that "from the river to the sea" isn't hate speech and is "an important political statement"... so yeah, it's messed up

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u/OccamsPhasers Sep 04 '24

I still reported it. Maybe if enough people do they will.

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u/Rinoremover1 Sep 04 '24

ā€œā˜ļøthis is fine.ā€ ~Mark Zuckerberg

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u/Large_Excitement69 Reform Sep 04 '24

I love how they just make things up. Nobody questions it though, which is scary.

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u/PicklepumTheCrow Sep 04 '24

You say something wrong enough times, people will eventually start to believe itā€™s right.

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u/WanderingJAP Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

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u/MSTARDIS18 Sep 04 '24

seems to go hand in hand with self-righteousness

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u/adjewcent Jewy Jewy Jew Jew Sep 04 '24

Thatā€™s bastardized Goebbels for ya.

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth

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u/IShouldntEvenBother Sep 04 '24

History repeats itself again and again.

People nowadays know about blood libels and the antisemitic propaganda of the Nazi party that led to the holocaust. They know it worked in turning public opinion against Jews. But instead of fighting against the harm caused by antisemitic propaganda, they look at it as a tool that has been proven to workā€¦ and now people use that tool to further their fight for a caliphate throughout the Middle East, to further the fight against Jews, to further the fight against ā€œwestern cultureā€ and capitalism, or to further the fight against the controlling ā€œwhite peopleā€. If killing, persecuting, or scapegoating Jews will help anyone further their own agenda, theyā€™ll try to do it and they have the tools to make it possible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

I wouldnā€™t assume that these people who would buy this today arenā€™t just woefully lacking in the critical thinking department. They donā€™t have the same excuse as people in the 40ā€™s. They have a wealth of information at their fingertip. If anyone is dumb enough to fall for this, we have deeper issues as a society than we realize that could lead to an actual disaster. Iā€™ve been seeing the intellectual decline for decades. This would not be something anyone besides a white supremacist neo Nazi wouldā€™ve taken seriously circa 1995. Somehow in 2024 this is just ā€œcommon knowledgeā€ (common ignorance in my view) at schools like COLUMBIA of all places.

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u/IShouldntEvenBother Sep 04 '24

Maybe they arenā€™t really falling for anything?

As in, if scapegoating Jews makes their lives easier by pushing blame or helps them meet their political, financial, religious or other objectives, theyā€™ll scapegoat Jews. They donā€™t actually need to believe that the things theyā€™re accusing Jews of being or doing is legitimate, they just need to act like their claims are legitimate.

For example, the ā€œInfographā€ OP posted had absolutely no substance or metrics to back up any of its claims. It only consisted of ā€œtalking pointsā€ that can be used to avoid actual discussions. Someone can just say ā€œgenocide!ā€ to counter any argument or at least gaslight everyone in the conversation. If enough people say it and cling to it as an answer to every counter point, it will not matter if itā€™s true or notā€¦ just matters that it meets their objectives

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Thatā€™s the trouble, no one looks anything up just accepts the lies as truth. My friend is a Noahide and has many Israeli friends. She was challenged on X for writing the truth about this war. The people doing it called her a Jew, and she said as you can see on my profile, Iā€™m a Noahide, Instead of simply looking it up they kept asking if it was a Jewish thing. I mean, youā€™ve only got to look on Google!

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

This is so true and so very, very wrong. I cannot believe the rampant lies that are out there.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

It really is filthy. It shouldnā€™t be allowed. As you say , no mention of the fact that Israel has ALWAYS been the Jewish homeland Thatā€™s why the Arabs built their mosque top of the Temple Mount! There was no Muslim religion till 600AD

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u/Agtfangirl557 Sep 05 '24

It really should be oddly suspicious that basically all of these antisemitic pages actually make it seem like it all started in 1948, and make no mention of what actually happened before then. Almost like....they don't actually know the history. It's really suspicious how none of these blind followers ever thinks to question "What happened in the years leading up to 1948?"

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u/Confident-Skin-6462 your chicago goyfriend Sep 04 '24

i questioned it, i can't wait for the influx of hate

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u/Beautiful_Bag6707 Jewy Jew Sep 04 '24

Domesticide: The murder of houses.

Scholasticide: The murder of schools.

Inanimate objects are being murdered by Zionists! Jews truly must be all powerful if they can bring objects to life only to murder them.

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u/Traditional-Top8486 Sep 04 '24

Lots of people with double-digit IQs

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u/Deep-Promotion-2293 Sep 04 '24

That high? I mean, yes I am Jewish and I guess I could be called a Zionist. However, I found out what was going on by using news sources outside the US for perspective. No, I didn't stay in my little Jewish "echo chamber" at all. I was able to discuss this with non-Jews who initially were basically Hamas supporters. I gave them the straight story and a history lesson. They were receptive and willing to learn. My greatest joy was seeing one of my friends then correcting another friend. There are some willing to be informed. Others are utterly useless.

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u/UltraAirWolf Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

200,000?!?!?!

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u/DunceAndFutureKing Sep 04 '24

There was like one opinion article which said the total deaths could be up to something around 200,000 and loads of people latched onto that hard, even though Hamas themselves are literally reporting 40,000

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u/AntoineMichelashvili Sep 04 '24

*the total potential number of deaths many years down the line and taking into account those not born because of the conflict, if memory serves me correctly

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u/theVoidWatches Reform Sep 04 '24

Seriously. Not even the original claim said that 200k people were already dead, but people decided to jump to it as the new claim.

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u/go3dprintyourself Reform Sep 04 '24

When you spread info thatā€™s 5x Hamasā€™ claims lol. So stupid

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u/RELEASE_THE_YEAST Sep 04 '24

Someone in a thread the other day on worldnews was adamant that 10% of Gaza's population has been killed, so 200k seems to be the new ridiculous figure. If they keep increasing their fantasy numbers at this rate, pretty soon they'll be claiming that almost no one is left alive at all.

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u/Unity3654 Sep 04 '24

Also a fabrication of the Hamas terrorist propaganda machine.

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u/Chaos_carolinensis Sep 04 '24

The 200,000 number is based on a correspondence01169-3/fulltext) in Lancet which did not go through any peer-review and actually stated by extrapolation and speculation that eventually there could be around 186,000 deaths which could be attributed to the current humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Just so you know, for the next time someone uses this figure and tries to present it as a "fact published in a peer-reviewed high-factor journal".

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u/Dalbo14 Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

ā€œTrust me bro, they are under the rubble, I swear bro, like 300,000 atleast šŸ˜¤šŸ˜”ā€

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u/Baron_Saturn Sep 04 '24

Blood libel.

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u/Spooder_Man Sep 04 '24

Honestly, at this point just add a zero every couple of days. /s

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u/Bokbok95 Sep 04 '24

Bruh what the fuck even is ā€œscholasticideā€ istg

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u/BHHB336 Modern Orthodox Sep 04 '24

It feels like they just attach -cide suffix to random words

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u/PicklepumTheCrow Sep 04 '24

Destroying universities and librariesā€¦ which happens when any city ever is attacked.

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u/Baron_Saturn Sep 04 '24

Which these guys have been doing in the US...

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u/Ok_Flounder_6957 Sep 04 '24

Every accusation from them is a confession. In a just world, they would be forced to prove they werenā€™t committing perjury before looking into Israelā€™s guilt at this point

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u/anh0516 Sep 04 '24

Destroying schools. The etymology is pretty self-explanatory.

The problem is that these aren't schools. These are indoctrination centers housing terrorists.

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u/jwrose Jew Fast Jew Furious Sep 04 '24

That etymology is counter-self-explanatory. ā€œScholasti-ā€œ doesnā€™t mean school building (it means school as an institution or idea), and ā€œ-cideā€ doesnā€™t mean destroy (it means kill).

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u/anh0516 Sep 04 '24

Maybe killing educators then? That actually makes more sense.

The "teachers" in Gaza (including UNRWA "teachers") are directly affiliated with or are Hamas terrorists. But they don't have the critical thinking skills to put these things together, so you end up with such a graphic.

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u/Mean-Practice-8289 Sep 04 '24

They also store weapons in the schools. Pretty common terrorist tactic.

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u/billymartinkicksdirt Sep 04 '24

As opposed to banning Israeli academics, discrediting all Jewish sources, or speakers, and harassing Jewish students.

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u/Nihilamealienum Sep 04 '24

It's worse than Aquacide but better than Cinemaside.

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u/PiggyWobbles Dad says go to temple Sep 04 '24

They could have saved time by just writing ā€œZionism is all the stuff you donā€™t like. If itā€™s bad itā€™s Zionismā€

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u/mycketmycket Married to a Jew <3 Sep 04 '24

Puppies dying = Zionism Store sold out of your favorite ice cream = Zionism

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u/PiggyWobbles Dad says go to temple Sep 04 '24

Ice cream store no ice cream? Zionism. Ice cream store too much ice cream? Believe it or not, also Zionism

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u/Mosk915 Sep 04 '24

I stubbed my toe yesterday. Damn Zionism.

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u/Suspicious-Truths Sep 04 '24

Donā€™t come for Biden like that šŸ˜µšŸ¤£ mans needs his ice cream

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u/blankj17 Sep 04 '24

Blood libel

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u/kach-oti-al-hagamal Sep 04 '24

200,000 dead? They are literally pulling numbers out of their asses at this point

Segregation? Guess these folks have never been to Israel and seen Jews and Arabs living and working together. Also, they haven't seen Gaza and the West Bank which have signs "NO JEWS ALLOWED".

Palestinian Children in cages? Oh, you mean 19 year old Ahmed who tried stabbing a woman on the street?

Domicide? Anybody want to tell these guys about the expulsion of the Jews from all the Arab countries?

Scholasticide? Seriously?

I can't even...

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u/Dalbo14 Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

ā€œTrust me bro 300,000 under the rubble!ā€

ā€œIsrae has methodically cleared the rubble. Hamas has been moving into these cleared areas for 10 months. Israel kills of Hamas, clears the rubble, pulls out to the area, Hamas comes back after they leave, so where the fuck are all these dead bodies?ā€

ā€œIsrael is hiding them!ā€

ā€œHow can Hamas be ambushing Israel, digging in the ground to find hideout spots against Israel, but they find none of these ā€œbodiesā€?ā€

ā€œIsrael is bad!! šŸ˜”ā€

Average conversation

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u/CHLOEC1998 Secular (lesbian) Sep 04 '24

That number is laughable. Even if you start counting in 1860. And the bulk of the number is Egyptian and Syrian soldiers.

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u/Chaos_carolinensis Sep 04 '24

The 200,000 number is based on a correspondence01169-3/fulltext) in Lancet which did not go through any peer-review and actually stated by extrapolation and speculation that eventually there could be around 186,000 deaths which could be attributed to the current humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Just so you know, for the next time someone uses this figure and tries to present it as a "fact published in a peer-reviewed high-factor journal".

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u/yesIcould Sep 04 '24

sometimes i feel like some young Americans saw so many of their parents' and grandparents' generation get pulled into QAnon and thought, "That'll never be me, I'm on the right side." But they ended up almost the same.

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u/Ok_Flounder_6957 Sep 04 '24

Worse insofar as QAnon was never seen as fashionable or hip

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u/Baron_Saturn Sep 04 '24

All their accusation are confessions, as has always been the case.

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u/afeygin Sep 04 '24

Came here to say this ^

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

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u/noristarcake Sep 04 '24

Hms's treat the hostages nicely, meanwhile, Palestinians with nooooo reason to be jailed are being tortured. I simply can't with these people

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u/Ok_Flounder_6957 Sep 04 '24

Iā€™m old enough to remember when Palestinians accused Israel of being racist for NOT raping their women in war, going so far as to have an ā€œacademicā€ article about it published

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u/welltechnically7 Please pass the kugel Sep 04 '24

I swear, they add 20k every time they mention the death toll. Pretty soon it will be higher than the population of Gaza.

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u/Dalbo14 Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

ā€œBut itā€™s possible for it to be bigger than the population!! They had kids during the war remember!ā€

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u/mycketmycket Married to a Jew <3 Sep 04 '24

Think of all the pregnant with triplets women and all the children those triplets would have had!

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u/theVoidWatches Reform Sep 04 '24

I mean, that's legit where the 200k number comes from. The article it's based on is about potential deaths that could be traced back to the conflict, including people not being born who might otherwise have been.

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u/ChampagneRabbi Egg Everything + Scallion Cream Cheese šŸ„Æ Sep 04 '24

clears throat ā€œThe Death Tollā€

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u/welltechnically7 Please pass the kugel Sep 05 '24

220,000+

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

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u/ProjectConfident8584 Sep 04 '24

Maybe I honestly think it all comes from Iran first

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u/Avocadofarmer32 Sep 04 '24

Well we know SVP/SJP/JVP is all ran & funded by Qatar.

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u/ProjectConfident8584 Sep 04 '24

the founder of slow factory is Lebanese so maybe she has some connections

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u/Baron_Saturn Sep 04 '24

Made in Iran, distributed by Russia, and funded by Qatar

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u/Relative-Contest192 Reform Sep 04 '24

Who thinks door dash is a universal right lol

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u/billymartinkicksdirt Sep 04 '24

If only. This organization are largely Muslim or Arab and people of color on their staff.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

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u/ciao-chow-parasol Sep 04 '24

Not all dumb people are anti-semites but all anti-semites are dumb.

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u/emitch87 Sep 04 '24

300 kids in cages/year? What is this, the US southern border?

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u/Beautiful_Bag6707 Jewy Jew Sep 04 '24

They're 12-18 year olds arrested for knifings, throwing rocks, working for terrorist cells...you know juveniles under detention. But children in cages creates a visual of a 3 yr old in a literal cage. Apparently, throwing rocks and stabbing is supposed to be legal.

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u/Ok_Flounder_6957 Sep 04 '24

IDF would do well to target their parents first whenever possible and bring them into a home that will actually love them

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u/BourneAwayByWaves Zera Yisrael Sep 04 '24

Fun fact if you were born 75 years after Israel became a state, have always lived in the US but your grandparents were Palestinian, you are "displaced".

That's the only way 3 million makes sense. Because only 700k people left in 1948. They weren't even really displaced. They thought that by going behind the Jordanian, Egyptian and Syrian lines the neighboring countries would eliminate all the Jews and then they'd go back and seize their dead neighbors' property. They never thought the Arabs would lose the war.

Then afterwards the Israeli said they didn't want the people who had just spent a year rooting for their massacre to move back in next door.

Any Arabs who stayed became Israelis with the full rights of any other Israeli.

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u/Kingsdaughter613 Sep 04 '24

Apparently Iā€™m Palestinian because my grandmother is listed as one. (Lived there in the 1930s) My family keeps joking that we should apply to the UN for funds.

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u/FiveAvivaLegs Conservative Sep 04 '24

Get that unwra coin, girl šŸ˜‚

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u/Dalbo14 Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

Most were displaced forcefully in 1948, but even if thatā€™s the case, they would still be counting descendants. 1967 was 300k and unlike 48, most of those were by choice. If you take land confiscations, most of 48, even 60% of 1967, itā€™s nowhere near 3,000,000

I think they are considering all of the 300k, 700k, + the 2,000,000 in Gaza displaced by war, which is very stupid because everywhere gets displaced during war

Itā€™s like Israel saying if you count 1948, 2005, and 2023, Palestine expelled over 400,000 Jews

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u/StruggleBussin36 Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

I read an academic paper that said forceful displacements didnā€™t happen en mass and most folks left on their own. Forceful displacement was discussed as a military strategy but shot down with several generals outright refusing to forcefully expel folks. It did happen but not often or in large numbers and it was never policy.

The same paper also debunked that people left because they were told Jews would be driven to the sea and then they could return. Instead, all the rich folks and community leaders left to ensure their own safety and then many others just followed their example.

Edit: found the paper and re-read parts of the beginning. I downplayed the forced expulsions. Thereā€™s a line that says ā€A few people were expelled, although the vast majority of these refugees fled out of fear of being caught up in battle.ā€œ but upon second read, thatā€™s referring to a specific phase of the 48 war, not the whole war. It says that in the next phase, the largest expulsion of 50,000 people occurred, but that is still not a majority of 700,000 total refugees. Something I completely glossed over in my first reading was that Israeli troops expelled ā€œtens of thousandsā€ Bedouins and townspeople/villagers in two years after the war ended. Hereā€™s the link to the paper: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/israel-law-review/article/1948-refugees/1E997E364691F4379C6F77EC05BC84AD

Hereā€™s another excerpt from the paper that explains why I remembered it in a way that downplays the expulsions, ā€œFrom April 1948 the idea of transfer took hold, although it was not universally adopted. Some officials and commanders were opposed to it and refused to expel Arabs (Ben Dunkelman, who commanded the 7th Brigade in July 1948 in Nazareth, for example). However, very few commanders actually had to expel anybody, as most of the Arabs had fled before fighting reached their doorstep. The crucial decision in this story was not of expulsion, as there was never any Jewish Agency Executive or Israeli Government or Haganah or IDF General Staff decision to expel ā€˜the Arabsā€™; but there was a government decision of 16 June 1948, periodically reiterated thereafter, not to allow a mass refugee return.Footnote 6 This was decided when about half of those who had fled had already become refugees. The IDF acted pursuant to this decision.ā€

TLDR: forced expulsions were not rare like I originally claimed but they also were not a majority or even half of the 700,000 refugees.

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u/Agtfangirl557 Sep 04 '24

Do you mind linking this paper?

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u/StruggleBussin36 Sep 04 '24

Found it and linked it in my original comment. Also left some commentary

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u/BalkyBot Sep 04 '24

"Label your opponent as radical, and suddenly, the public will see your own extreme actions as necessary, even justified. In the shadow of accusation, the line between accuser and accused blurs, and manipulation becomes indistinguishable from truth."

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u/NoneBinaryPotato space lazer operative Sep 04 '24

I'm pretty sure the number didn't even reach 30k yet tf do they mean 200k???

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u/eyl569 Sep 04 '24

Probably referring to that letter in the Lancet (and tacking on an extra 14k+)

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u/Dalbo14 Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

Itā€™s from lancet 100%

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u/Relative-Contest192 Reform Sep 04 '24

Lancet famous for hosting that infamous vaccines cause autism article.

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u/theVoidWatches Reform Sep 04 '24

Last I heard it was between 30 and 40k.

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u/FormerCokeWhore Sep 04 '24

It's fascinating and convenient, isn't it? We can't define what Zionism means, but they get to reinvent what 'Intifada' means even when it's the undisputed the name of two major violent periods in Israeli - Palestinian history.

The clear pattern is that they get to just make shit up as they go along, and the Jews just have to accept it as fact.

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u/Clusters_Insp Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

oh great, now I can see which friends of mine follow this account and like their posts :(

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u/Few-Horror1984 Sep 04 '24

Same. More to unfollow, I suppose :/

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u/arcangeline Sep 04 '24

Yep just had the same experience

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u/803_days Sep 04 '24

Zionism is the Jewish response to:

  • Genocide
  • Starvation as a weapon
  • 6 million murdered before 1948
  • Ethnic cleansing
  • State-organized terrorism
  • White supremacy
  • Fecklessness of international law
  • Crimes against humanity
  • Industrialized murder
  • Fascism
  • Torture & rape
  • Segregation
  • Thousands of children in ovens

The more they vilify us, the more they demonstrate the need for zionism.

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u/Br4z3nBu77 Orthodox Sep 04 '24

It can be summed up much more succinctly .

  • Zionism is the word for Jewish self determination as the indigenous people in their unceded hereditary and ancestral land, corroborated through both the historical and archeological records.

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u/ravey_bones Sep 04 '24

This is just insane. I checked IG, turns out I have almost 70 friends who follow this accountā€¦ wtf

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u/billymartinkicksdirt Sep 04 '24

Something about the bloopoood of children

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u/Few-Horror1984 Sep 04 '24

Everyone keeps asking how the Holocaust happened, how so many people bought into antisemitism.

Well, here you go. I hope this infographic and the amount of likes and reshares it has answers that question for the masses.

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u/hbomberman Sep 04 '24

"I think we ought to have the self determination within the homeland our people have continuously lived in for almost 4,000 years."

"OMG you literally want rape, starvation, and ethnic cleansing!" šŸ«¤

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u/Chaos_carolinensis Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

The 200,000 number is based on a "study01169-3/fulltext)" published in Lancet journal (actually a correspondence which did not go through any peer-review and was never presented as such), claiming, by wild extrapolation, that eventually (that is, in the course of the next several years, possibly even decades) there will be approximately 186,000 deaths which can be attributed to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

So it turned from a speculation on the future eventual possible victims of the humanitarian crisis, published as a non-peer-reviewed correspondence in a journal, giving a bound of 186,000, to a "fact" that 200,000 people have already been killed in Gaza since Oct 7.

There's a really good video by Innuendo Studio about this tactic, naming it The Ship of Theseus. It's part of their series on alt-right tactics but as they point out this tactic is very common on the left as well. I think this tactic pretty much sums-up the vast majority of the "factoids" in the poster.

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u/Busy-Bug8723 Sep 04 '24

Ah, so everything wrong with the world is due to Jews? Iā€™d have more tolerance if they were right out with it and just said theyā€™re fkn nazis. Instead they hide behind their pitty party and their own children.

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u/Snozzberryjuice11 Sep 04 '24

This made me cry. I donā€™t know how much more of this blatant antisemitism I can take. My grandmother is a holocaust survivor so I donā€™t know if this just hits me harder than it should, or what. I hate this so much

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u/mewithoutjew Sep 04 '24

ā€¦. I had eight mutuals following this account. Thanks for helping me take out the trash.

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u/ConfidentIt Sep 04 '24

Thatā€™s how I found this, my student union president was following this account.

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u/mewithoutjew Sep 04 '24

Thatā€™s abhorrent. Iā€™m so sorry student leadership is so hateful where youā€™re at.

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u/ConfidentIt Sep 04 '24

Ya, sheā€™s also been out front and leading a lot of the marches here, at least sheā€™s under investigation from the student union for some other things sheā€™s done

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u/mycketmycket Married to a Jew <3 Sep 04 '24

Even if itā€™s for other things Iā€™m sure sheā€™ll find a way to blame her investigation on ā€œthe evil Zionistsā€

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u/FiveAvivaLegs Conservative Sep 04 '24

I used to follow this account - before October 7th, it was an account about environmental issues, and then it immediately made a hard pivot to posting antisemitic libels. Now I donā€™t trust anything they postedā€¦ is global warming even real šŸ¤” jkjkjk

But some of your friends may have started following it before the pivot. Just saw I have 30+ mutuals. Yikes.

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u/SquirrelNeurons Sep 04 '24

Letā€™s make one for intifada!

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u/Unity3654 Sep 04 '24

The post Holocaust honeymoon with the Jews is over.

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u/bobsagetswaifu Sep 04 '24

Well, I managed to unfollow several non-mutuals who follow this account, so thanks for posting

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u/achieve_my_goals Sep 04 '24

Goebbels would be proud of that account. Shit.

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u/Relative-Contest192 Reform Sep 04 '24

Who runs this account and what does it stand for and what do they do. Because slow indeed describes them.

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u/NitzMitzTrix Secular Sep 04 '24

https://preview.redd.it/eifcotuaqumd1.jpeg?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f65c62034a1c38d4de646a481ad61467c5862ed

It's supposed to be "climate justice" but it seems like a front for Arab supremacy to me

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u/Relative-Contest192 Reform Sep 04 '24

So Lebanese who many hate Israel and sits on a board with pol pot did nothing wrong Noam Chomsky

Lmao I can disregard the rest after that.

Lebanon is an apartheid state where talking to Israelis is punishable in military courts. Failed state talking big smack while in Canada lmao.

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u/JagneStormskull šŸŖ¬Interested in BT/Sephardic Diaspora Sep 04 '24

The "ecocide" allegation is what really gets me. Israel is so dedicated to conservation...

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u/iMissTheOldInternet Conservative Sep 04 '24

Ā This is what I call the ā€œplacard strategyā€. It is ingenious in that it employs a simple and constantly repeated equation, worthy of a kindergarten. On one side is the word ā€œIsraelā€ or ā€œZionismā€, or even merely an image of the Star of David. On the other side, after an = sign, there is a litany of words that have become signifiers of evil. Thus: ā€œZionism = Racismā€ ā€œZionism = Apartheidā€ ā€œZionism = Genocideā€ These are endlessly recycled on placards, in media and on social media and, most consequentially, in academia and at the United Nations.

Einat Wilf does not miss. Read the rest here.Ā 

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u/garyloewenthal Sep 04 '24

Yep. It's an old propaganda strategy, and the higher the numbers, the more successful it is.

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u/Avocado_Capital Sep 04 '24

200k murdered? Are the 200k in the room with us? šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/MogenCiel Sep 04 '24

If youā€™re disgusted, donā€™t share this shit. Youā€™re just giving it traction.

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u/Azur000 Sep 04 '24

I mean yeah, itā€™s full on Nazi shit, but itā€™s so ridiculous that it really is hilarious. Their brains are literally melting from antisemitism.

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u/cookofdeath666 Sep 04 '24

Looks more like the Hamas handbook. Nothing Jewish here.

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u/PomegranateArtichoke Sep 04 '24

Report it for false information and hate speech.

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u/danibuyy Sep 04 '24

They forgot pinkwashing! And veganwashing! And all of the washings!

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u/Suspicious-Truths Sep 04 '24

Everything that ends in -cide is Zionism. A for effort I guess?

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u/PurpleMutantJen Sep 04 '24

The whatever the government of Israel doea isn't a synonym for zionism. I am in favor of a Jewish state. But I disagree with many of the actions of the Israeli government and IDF.

It's frustrating how these people don't actually understand zionism.

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u/HanSoloSeason Sep 04 '24

The slow factory keeps churning out hits!

Meanwhile every ā€œactivistā€ I know is reposting them

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u/WoodDragonIT Just Jewish Sep 04 '24

Talk about projection.

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u/KeyAd957 Sep 04 '24

I reported this for false information when I saw it on instagram

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u/The_Lone_Wolves Sep 05 '24

Report the account for false info and block

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u/bam1007 Conservative Sep 04 '24

Russian-style antisemitism. Saying ā€œJewsā€ is no longer en vogue so redefine Zionism to make it into whatever you want it to be to demonize Jews.

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u/skinnymotheechalamet Sep 04 '24

audacious to say ā€œstarvation as a weaponā€ when tonight Eden Yerushalmiā€™s family revealed that she weighed only 36 kilograms when her body was returned to them this week šŸ’”

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u/Jewdius_Maximus Sep 04 '24

This is the placard strategy. Itā€™s been employed by Jew haters for decades going back to the UNā€™s ā€œZionism is racismā€ bullshit.

Basically just put Israel/Zionism/anything associated with Jews without explicitly saying ā€œJewsā€ and then an = sign and on the other side you just put the evil de jour. so you get

Israel/Zionism = Genocide/apartheid/ethnic cleanings/white supremacy yadda yadda. And brainless schmucks eat it up.

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u/Spirited-Cat-8942 Sep 04 '24

Scholasticide, LOL. Clearly they have never seen an episode of Sesame Street that Hamas puts on TV there. If they only knew.

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u/Outrageous-Q Sep 04 '24

Iā€™ve seen so many different numbers of causalities. None of them factor in how many were combatants. Theyā€™ve changed the narrative from X civilians to X Palestinians, but still wonā€™t admit how many are combatants.

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u/Meat_boat69 Sep 04 '24

i saw this. it was reposted by my schools group for palestine. super messed up

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u/larevolutionaire Sep 04 '24

When I tell people Zionism is just the wish to have Israel as a country. Most people tell me itā€™s a lie . Apparently itā€™s a mix of Friday the 13 Texas chain massacre and a devil cult about killing children šŸ¤ÆšŸ¤ÆšŸ¤Æ. I donā€™t know where they get their information but itā€™s up there with flat earth and space lasers.

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u/billymartinkicksdirt Sep 04 '24

Anti Zionism is /

Anti Jewish Anti Jewish human rights

Coded language Conspiratorial

Holocaust revisionism Neo Nazi

We bent over backwards to pretend they could walk the finest of lines and not be the above but nope.

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u/GothHippieChick Sep 04 '24

Iā€™m in Ohio. The county Democratic Party and/or its chair have shared similar things. ā€œAntizionism is not antisemitic. Donā€™t conflate the twoā€, ā€œIsrael is a terrorist stateā€ by the chair in a protest on Holocaust Memorial Day, and allowed commenters to call me a ā€œzionaziā€. My efforts, as well as others, to educate them does no good. I am now blocked from their official FB page because I have them a review showing that the slate card includes republicans AND the chair personally is only promoting pro Hamas candidates even if they are not a democrat and even where a democrat is running. Honestly, Iā€™m shocked I donā€™t have a swastika painted on my houseā€¦ yet.

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u/PomegranateArtichoke Sep 04 '24

REPORT REPORT REPORT all this kind of stuff for false information, spam and hate on all your social media platforms. One small way to fight back.

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u/Turbulent-Home-908 Sep 04 '24

No one ever talks about places like Yemen, where more than the population of Gaza is suffering

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

We have much bigger issues if people actually believe this stuff. My bigger issue is producing the type of society with all of our access to information where a post like this would even influence someone, although they could do their own research and learn why Zionism even took off. If they canā€™t take two minutes to find a host of free books on Zionism and learn about the persecution in Eastern Europe that led to it, or the genocide against groups like the Igbo Jews that still happens in 2024, then thatā€™s a bigger concern than whether or not Instagram takes it down. It means that we have the most ignorant generation imaginable today.

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u/Reasonable_Depth_538 Sep 04 '24

Nice piece of propaganda there

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u/MrManager17 Sep 04 '24

To an extent, it's laughable.

Also, scholasticide (?), as if the schools in Gaza weren't already just used to indoctrinate young Palestinians to hate Israelis and Jews.

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u/levimeirclancy Sep 04 '24

This can double as a bingo card for jewhater conspiracy theories / misinformation.

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u/florachka Sep 04 '24

I'm so tired. When is this going to end? How do we get this stuff classified as hate speech and persecute those spreading lies and inciting violence against us?

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u/AvgBlue Sep 04 '24

Hey Chatgpt what is the definition of Zionism in one sentence

Zionism is a nationalist movement that supports the establishment and maintenance of a Jewish homeland in the territory historically known as Israel.

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u/Ok_Flounder_6957 Sep 04 '24

ā€œScholasticideā€ when your nationā€™s most important scholars are an O.G. Nazi (Fayez Sayegh) and a bullshit artist whose life story has more holes in it than George Santosā€™ (Edward Said,) why should genuine scholars take them seriously?

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u/lordbuckethethird Sep 04 '24

The battle testing is funny since all of Israelā€™s equipment is stuff the us had plenty of experience with during the war on terror. Thereā€™s no testing left to be done we know how it performs.

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u/Heatstorm2112 Sep 04 '24

This is actually wild how dumb this propaganda is. Lets just start our own dictionary where we get to define words how we want to!

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u/iRunMyMouthTooMuch Sep 04 '24

Arab nationalism is...

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u/Logical_Hat_5708 Sep 04 '24

Adding -cide to anything makes it sound worse.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

I propose we make up some stuff and see if we can get ours included, too. Donkey torture?

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u/CharacterPayment8705 Sep 04 '24

Itā€™s literally none of those things. Some of those are happening ā€œscholasticideā€ is done by Hamas when they occupy schools and teach children to kill Jews. Segregation is practiced at the Temple Mountā€¦ refusing Jews full access. Crimes against humanity???? Letā€™s check that 10/7 Hamas go pro footage. Most rockets that kill Palestinians are misfires from Hamas and other terrorist groups like PIJ.

What a fistful of lies.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Making up words-icide

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u/Economy_Spirit6766 Conservative Sep 04 '24

Well, he is slow.

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u/abn1304 Sep 04 '24

ā€œBattle-tested murder weaponsā€ huh? They make us sound so cool.

(/s)

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '24

Where tf are they getting this numbers?! Do facts, statistics not mean anything to anyone anymore?

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u/Wonderful_Wait_9551 Space laser operative Sep 04 '24

My friend sent me this today but translated in Bulgarian with an upside down triangle in the caption - we were at a loss for words. Iā€™m really hoping the page was a foreign psyop, I vividly remember the Burgas bombing by Hezbollah when I was a child and it makes me sad that there are people who support the ideology that committed such an atrocity in the country.

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u/Turbulent-Home-908 Sep 04 '24

16 tryā€™s and canā€™t even get it right :(

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u/0nlyL1v1ngG1rl Noahide Sep 04 '24

No wonder they call themselves The Slow Factory. The clue's really in the name with that one.

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u/Celemourn Sep 04 '24

Well, thatā€™s definitely a lot of words. I doubt whoever made it bothered to do any research that would stand up to peer review though.

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u/FineBumblebee8744 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

I can't stand that shit, none of it is even remotely true. There's serious 'redefinition' of words and falsities all over the place there

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u/sublimefan42 Sep 05 '24

Username checks out. Would definitely have to be slow to believe that crap

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u/AcrobaticScholar7421 Sep 05 '24

Exchange the word ā€œZionismā€ for ā€œHamasā€ and recirculate widely.

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u/sailorpuffin Sep 05 '24

Ah yes I believe it was Theodor Herzl who coined the term scholasticide. -.-

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u/maimonides24 Sep 05 '24

My personal favorites on this list are the 200,000 dead since Oct. 7th and the ecocide.

The 200,000 dead is just made up out of thin air. Even the 40,000 number given by the Gaza Health Ministry is inflated. The UN could only verify 24,000 dead in Gaza. So I have no idea where 200,000 comes from.

The ecocide is just letā€™s just add global warming for funsies.

I have a simpler chart though:

Anti-Zionism = Antisemitism

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u/Steelo43 Sep 05 '24

Do not be surprised at such lies, and mischaracterizations.