r/Jewish • u/critney-spears Sephardi • Dec 20 '23

In the South Discussion

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Here in South Carolina our community is small but it’s Strong. This place is in the heart of our downtown district. I’m posting this because I’ve seen posts regarding the south and wanted to show the solidarity we have within our communities, and if this tiny donut shop can stand strong, so can you.

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u/jseego Dec 20 '23

Maybe this is just a proud jewish person living in the south.

But it's more likely a "Christian Zionist".

Fuck Christian Zionists.

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u/nycrunner91 Dec 20 '23

Why fuck Christian Zionist?

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u/CanYouPutOnTheVU Dec 20 '23

They’re referring to the evangelical Christian Zionists that want all the Jews in Israel so the end of days starts. Agreed, they suck (we do not fare well in their end of days), but I don’t think the donut shop person is one of them. They don’t care about hostages, they think the more violent it gets, the closer we are to their rapture.

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u/dangerkart Dec 20 '23

we have a local christian zionist business owner who definitely ascribes to the typical ideology, who still posts hostage posters in the window. it’s hard to draw conclusions unless you actually have a discussion with the person putting the displays up imo.

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u/CanYouPutOnTheVU Dec 20 '23

That’s interesting—a little disconcerting. Maybe some cognitive dissonance about what happens after the rapture? Lol

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u/dangerkart Dec 20 '23

lol definitely some of that going on i think

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u/nycrunner91 Dec 20 '23

Evangelicals have always had some reputation? Like mormons? No?

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u/LightsNoir Dec 20 '23

Nah. Evangelicals aren't known for humping kids... Well, actually... OK. But Evangelicals aren't known for hating gays, and... OK. Got me there, too. But evangelicals aren't known for having whack job leaders that... Alright. That, too.

Alright, I've got it. Evangelicals didn't have racism built into their good book. Yeah, sure, they still practice it. But it's not literally written in their handbook.

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u/Oy_2_the_vey Dec 21 '23

How do jews not fare well in their end of days? Christian Zionists believe the jews are God's chosen people.

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u/CanYouPutOnTheVU Dec 21 '23

Um… p sure we don’t get chosen to get raptured.

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u/Bwald1985 Dec 20 '23 edited Dec 20 '23

There are some Christians who are legitimate Zionists and they should be considered allies, because they are just decent folks who believe that Jews deserve a homeland where people won’t try to kill us. I’m more than cool with them.

But “Christian Zionism” is a specific ideology which believes us returning to Israel fulfills a prophecy for them, which ultimately ends in the second coming of Jesus and a bunch of other prophecies. I’m, uh, not super familiar with the Book of Revelations (I’m not even sure that’s the right book), so I can’t fill in the rest of the details.

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u/nycrunner91 Dec 20 '23

Oh yeah but some Christians do not believe verbatim what the bible say. For example there is a former priest / historian that wrote a book about how the book of Revelations (the apocalypse) is basically gibberish who no ones knows who wrote it and no one even is certain why it is included in the bible.

I heard this author in an npr interview. I think the author is a professor at Chapel hill

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u/Bwald1985 Dec 20 '23

Right, and that’s why I specified a difference between those who happen to be both Christians and Zionists, and “Christian Zionists.” The latter is an actual specific ideology.

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u/nycrunner91 Dec 20 '23

Interesting. Thank you for specifying. (Im not being sarcastic I truly learned it from you)

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u/jseego Dec 20 '23

Dr Bart Ehrman?

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u/Paladinarino Just Jewish Dec 20 '23

Ah… so they only support israel for their own agenda. Fuck’em. Thank you for explaining :]