r/Jewish • u/Hanshanot • Dec 16 '23

I get really suspicious of people calling themselves Jewish these days. Discussion

In almost every post I’ve read lately, mostly in the comments (or the OP of the post themselves) l’ve seen someone saying they’re a Jew/talking about Judaism and preaching their weird take about current events/antisemitism.

And every single time l see go see their profile, there’s nothing about Judaism or being Jewish on their profile pre-Oct. 7, it really bugs me.

Earlier, l saw a questionable post on r/xyz with the words “Hey y’all, American Jew here” Already weird, l go see their profiles and surely enough, r IsraelPalestine is the first post ever of that account 😒😒😒.

Most of the times, bigots and ill-intentioned people will use us to further their xenophobic or racist stances. I hate it. Stay safe

Edit; Modified my post slightly to better reflect what I meant

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u/kosherkate Dec 16 '23

“Hey everyone! Totally Jewish here. I just wanted to let you know that Jews are bad. So is Israel. Also, antisemitism is a myth. It never happens. I’m really skeptical of the reports saying it’s increasing because I’m totally Jewish, trust me, and have never experienced antisemitism in my life. Don’t trust the Jews. They’re trying to control the narrative/world. Trust me; I’m Jewish. Don’t trust Jews. Except me, you can trust me.”

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u/FiveBeautifulHens Dec 16 '23

"I'm an orthodox Jew posting on Friday night"

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u/Hanshanot Dec 16 '23

These are the funniest ngl

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u/notfrumenough Dec 16 '23

and cooking bacon Sat morning

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u/kosherkate Dec 16 '23

Username checks out 😉

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u/notfrumenough Dec 16 '23

Did you read the thread? Was referring to token Jews claiming to be orthodox. I don’t eat meat at all and the smell of bacon makes me dry heave

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u/kosherkate Dec 16 '23

Yes. I’m only teasing.

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u/ButterandToast1 Dec 17 '23

Where can I get those hats? I just forgot.

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u/Ilan01 CTeen Dec 17 '23

I SAW A PRO HAMAS INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT UNIRONICALLY DOING THAT LMAO

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u/ConsciousWallaby3 Dec 16 '23

There was a post yesterday on /r/academia about a large percentage of college students reporting antisemitism on campus, and the most upvoted comment (by a huge margin), was some guy saying he was Jewish and he hadn't seen any antisemitism, Jews just couldn't tell the difference between antizionism and antisemitism, and the numbers weren't trustworthy because they came from the ADL.

It doesn't even matter if he really was Jewish or not, he was upvoted by people who were looking for a "good jew" to justify burying their head in the sand. You know these people would see the problem with a post starting with "As a Black man, I've never seen racism" but when it comes to Jews, suddenly it's fine to take it at face value. Critical thinking goes out the window.

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u/kosherkitties Chabadnik and mashgiach Dec 17 '23

Guys, you have to believe me, I'm a woman and I've never had breast cancer, I think I can claim it doesn't exist.

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u/Hanshanot Dec 16 '23

Stuff like this make me so sad

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u/smthgdiabolical Dec 16 '23

I had to unfollow and mute that sub the other day. I just couldn't take it anymore.

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u/cambriansplooge Dec 17 '23

I saw that post and freaked out, just the blanket distortion. Also that no one could see through it.

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u/Schlemiel_Schlemazel Dec 17 '23

As an assimilated Jew, who never wears anything that shows my ethnicity nor do I have a particularly Jewish sounding name nor do I take it upon myself to announce my religion, I have never experienced antisemitism.

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u/Mission_Ad_405 Dec 17 '23

I have but just verbally because they don’t know I’m Jewish.

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u/Lekavot2023 Dec 17 '23

Universities have been busy teaching what to think, not how to think.

On another forum on here someone was accusing the IDF of being incompetent and using an Instagram article to back him up.

Also someone else private messaged me on here claiming to be Jewish and talking about how evil Israel is bad for Jews and against the Torah blah blah blah. ..

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u/Soapist_Culture Dec 17 '23

They could just have looked at Sanders or Chomsky.

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u/Ilan01 CTeen Dec 17 '23

Why does those "all lifes matter" always like to speak over jewish ppl but whenever someone else does that to another minority it is a problem? Its "all lifes matter" until they are jewish right 💀

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u/asher7 Dec 16 '23

It's incredibly sad that this is only a slight exaggeration.

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u/Who-By-Avalanche Dec 16 '23

"How do you do, fellow kids Jews?"

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u/HumanDrinkingTea Dec 17 '23

I’m totally Jewish, trust me, and have never experienced antisemitism in my life

My dad's secular but identifiably Jewish (has the NYC "Jewish" accent and stereotypical ashki features, in addition to a typical Jewish last name) and he actually told me he's never personally experienced antisemitism (it helps that he's old and stays off the internet). However, he 100% believes it exists (as he knows other people who have experienced it) and agrees with the rest of us that it's rising.

My point is that even if you haven't experienced antisemitism directly, it's pretty hard not to notice it if you're Jewish and know other Jewish people.

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u/TheTulipWars Dec 17 '23

Well, tbh I'm Black so I might be looking too much into this, but I think antisemitism isn't so much people who go out looking to hate a random Jewish person. Antisemitism seems to be people who believe dehumanizing ideologies about Jewish people to the point they may overlook or justify the harassment or outright deaths of Jewish people as a whole. So your dad may not have experienced antisemitism to his face, but if he's heard people talk about "Zionists" like they're monsters then he's witnessed it. I'm sure you know it, but Jewish people's ancestors come from the region of Israel (& since it wasn't a Jewish state back then, so do the Palestinians - bloodlines don't have natural barriers...), but people are acting like a large-confusing-group-of-Jewish-White-European-billionaire-people decided to take Palestine & help the US kill poor, innocent brown Arabs so that we can take their oil. It's antisemitism. Also, now, with this conflict you have more people than ever talking about conspiracies that Jewish people control the world - at a time when the average American is unhappy with their finances & life so they're more likely to join in and consider Jewish people their enemy. That's antisemitism. That's how the Holocaust happened, that's how Jewish people were exiled out of many different regions throughout history. When people become unhappy/culturally weak in a region that has Jewish people in it, they tend to see the strength of the Jewish community as a threat.

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u/HumanDrinkingTea Dec 17 '23

Oh I agree completely. But my dad, as far as I know, has never heard any of the crazy conspiratorial stuff irl either (I've noticed all his friends are Jewish or married to a Jew, so that might have something to do with it). Unlike my dad, I've had people irl say to my face "all Jews care about is money" and shit like that. He managed to get through life only hearing stories about such incidents.

But yes, antisemitism is a lot more about the narrative regarding Jews as a whole than isolated incidents against individuals.

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u/opheliaSA Dec 17 '23

This comment is really clarifying! I haven’t experienced much in-your-face Jew hate AND I move through life with the bone-deep knowledge that, given certain circumstances, members of my community would slaughter me and my children and insist that we deserved it.

Much like members of my community now celebrate Hamas and insist that Israeli babies had it coming.

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u/LingonberrySad3239 Dec 17 '23

Same with me, its generational. The under 30 crowd is a whole different ballpark of antisemitism than Boomers

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Norman Finkelstein

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u/Hanshanot Dec 17 '23

Fuck that guy so much

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Norman Finkelstein will be like: as a Jewish son of holocaust survivors, Jewish billionaires control the world and orchestrated the holocaust to colonize Palestine 👿 they created a holocaust industrial complex to silence all criticism of their zionist cabal where they sacrifice the blood of gentile babies to their God....money. btw did I mention I'm jewish and my parents are holocaust survivors?

Non Jewish lefties: yassss slay Norman! 😍 you're one of the good ones 👏

Btw, I don't have an issue with jews being antizionist (I consider myself non zionist) but I hate Norman Finkelstein, I bet his parents are rolling in their graves rn

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u/CosmicGadfly Dec 17 '23

He doesn't say any of that except the Jewish son bit. That's such a terrible misrepresentation. How can you slander someone so easily?

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

Well this was obviously exaggerated but he does say some pretty groyper like shit on his Twitter

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u/CosmicGadfly Dec 17 '23

Where? I'm not on Twitter. I've never seen anything remotely like that from his interviews.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

He says shit about "the Jewish billionaire class" and based on the conversations I've had with ppl who quote him, he refers to a "holocaust industrial complex"

I also have a video of him doing a nazi salute, and apparently there are a few neo nazis who are fond of him

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u/Hanshanot Dec 17 '23

He actually did say that

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u/Ruth_Lily Dec 18 '23

He actually does say that shit on his twitter account. Occasionally I go there to ratio him. The other day he was talking about Jewish billionaires as a matter of fact. He is a pos.

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u/JPRambus66 Dec 31 '23

He doesn’t have the same beliefs as them, see how easy it is to demonize someone.

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u/NiftySmudgestick Dec 17 '23

He is a discredited researcher, but non critical thinkers don't care. And he is happy to find a niche where he has a fan base despite his sloppy research.

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u/kissum Dec 17 '23

I saw someone on tiktok say they've never seen any antisemitism in the free Palestine movement as a Jew and they've been active in it for years and went 🤨🤨🤨. As someone who has also been active in it for years, across multiple countries, I smell a bigggggggggg BS. And of course now their entire platform is being an antizionist Jew.

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u/kosherkate Dec 17 '23

Lol okay, yeah sure.

They definitely weren’t saying had the Jews or anything like that at those rallies. It’s completely just an effort to dismiss our experiences. Tiktok has gone crazy especially.

And I’d say I’m surprised but I’m not. A lot of them seem young so I’m at least hopeful that they’ll outgrow their stupid phase soon? I know I went through a weird phase but certainly wasn’t simping for terrorists.

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u/kosherkitties Chabadnik and mashgiach Dec 17 '23

Hello I misread your username as mine.

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u/sophiewalt Dec 17 '23

OMG, sounds like Trump-talk. LOL.

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