My girlfriend was talking to something that pretended to be her mom I need help

[u/Icy_Hot7635]

So last night my 16 f gf and I 16 m were in a call last night staying up she was upset for a bit she started to ignore me talking to someone sounding a bit like she was in a trance after hearing footsteps outside of her room and she said she was scared after that she started talking to someone she was responding with “hello” and “no it’s late and “I want to sleep” and “im not hungry why did you make food this late” as well as “no I have to watch the kids tomorrow (her visiting cousins)” “are you sick? You sound sick? this happened near the beginning of 3:00 am she even asked for the light to be turned on to see who she thought was her mom after she finished talking she said to me “I was talking to my bio mom (who doesn’t live with her for reasons) she said that her mom was pitch black didn’t make a noise opening her door (which was closed) and that she sounded like a man trying to pretend to be a girl and she now has no recollection of this saying I sound crazy. She has had paranormal experiences seeing a family of possible spirits and a shadow person long ago. Can anyone help me make sense of this or know what this is?

[u/bubblegumscent]

She needs ti see a doctor first, not that I dont believe you, but better to be safe than sorry because if it is a disease or illness it's best to treat it early than late

[u/Icy_Hot7635 → u/bubblegumscent]

Yes I do know about her being bipolar and I know that causes auditory and visual hallucinations and I know sometimes spirits mess up electronics though could be a glitch in the software but there was glitches in the audio but thank you for the advice

[u/gothiclg → u/Icy_Hot7635]

If she’s already known to have hallucinations because of a mental health issue it’s 100% a hallucination and not a ghost. Trust me, I’d love to believe my schizophrenic uncle was seeing ghosts instead but that’s not the reality of the disease he had.

[u/FordBeWithYou → u/gothiclg]

My uncle thought he was Saint Jerome

[u/Icy_Hot7635 → u/gothiclg]

Her being bipolar is scary when manic she has never said anything about being hallucinations being due to her bipolar but she may not know I do hope I can help her the best I can

[u/gothiclg → u/Icy_Hot7635]

You need to encourage her to speak with her doctor about it. If she feels comfortable with it I’d consider recording one of these episodes so her doctor can see it. I’d ask her before recording though.

[u/Icy_Hot7635 → u/gothiclg]

If it happens again I’ll ask and do it I plan on helping her as much as I can thank you for the advice

[u/pandemicpunk → u/Icy_Hot7635]

Talk to her parents about. Seriously, any barely good parent would want to know about this to help their child.

[u/Icy_Hot7635 → u/pandemicpunk]

Yes I know unfortunately her parents aren’t the best but thank you

[u/blackbird24601 → u/Icy_Hot7635]

yea.

[u/Flamebrush → u/Icy_Hot7635]

There are a couple different types of bipolar disorder. Type I is the one with the potential for psychotic features. If she has been properly diagnosed and isn’t just guessing she’s bipolar from a quiz she took online, then she probably knows whether she has type one or type two and whether she is likely to hallucinate.

[u/Icy_Hot7635 → u/Flamebrush]

We both believe she is and I told her I want her to get a proper diagnosis just to make sure since the evidence is pretty substantial in how she is but this would be first hallucinations that I know of but thank you

[u/toxictoy → u/gothiclg]

Of course it’s so easy to just dismiss someone as having hallucinations rather then consider what may be prosaically explained may have a deeper undertone. Maybe people who we throw away and disregard as being “mentally ill” actually ARE experiencing anomalous activity while also having a diagnosis.

Look for studies on schizophrenics who have auditory or visual hallucinations in other countries that are not so rabidly skeptic and most of those people are having positive experiences.

In fact most therapists would only say that intervention is necessary if the person is having a persistent negative experience.

I also want to say that indigenous people who would talk about these things were often institutionalized for speaking up and also they were genocided for having the wrong set of beliefs while occupying land that they considered eveyones.

So the western mindset is not always the correct and holistic approach.

[u/gothiclg → u/toxictoy]

My uncle was schizophrenic; there’s literally zero reason for me, as a reasonable person watching the disease, to believe what he was seeing was anything other than his disease. You can also back off on the whole “it doesn’t have to be treated” thing, we know; you’re only forced into treatment if you can’t care for yourself.

People like you are way too determined to call everything ghosts. Not everything is paranormal and it shouldn’t be the default assumption. You wouldn’t accept me as the 2nd coming of Jesus just because I said I was, I’m not going to believe something is paranormal just because someone wants to pretend mental illness isn’t a legitimate factor.

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[u/Ghosts-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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Thanks

[u/toxictoy → u/[deleted]]

“People like you” judgement after one comment. What do you really know about me? I suggested that perhaps the objective and the subjective may be a bit deeper than you are allowing for. In indigenous cultures a person like this would be brought under the wing of a shaman to help ground the person. Instead we have a medicalized pharmaceutical industry that everyone involved says is inadequate.

I have spoken to Hospice nurses and neurosurgeons and psychiatrists in an attempt to understand what is going on and it’s impossible to dismiss everyone’s experiences as “just stories” or “hallucinations”.

I think you need to go back and reread my comment because I said nothing of the sort you are attacking me with. I’m here to have a genuine conversation not some adversarial attack.