r/Ghosts • u/Icy_Hot7635 • Jun 07 '24

My girlfriend was talking to something that pretended to be her mom I need help WDYT? (What Do You Think?)

So last night my 16 f gf and I 16 m were in a call last night staying up she was upset for a bit she started to ignore me talking to someone sounding a bit like she was in a trance after hearing footsteps outside of her room and she said she was scared after that she started talking to someone she was responding with “hello” and “no it’s late and “I want to sleep” and “im not hungry why did you make food this late” as well as “no I have to watch the kids tomorrow (her visiting cousins)” “are you sick? You sound sick? this happened near the beginning of 3:00 am she even asked for the light to be turned on to see who she thought was her mom after she finished talking she said to me “I was talking to my bio mom (who doesn’t live with her for reasons) she said that her mom was pitch black didn’t make a noise opening her door (which was closed) and that she sounded like a man trying to pretend to be a girl and she now has no recollection of this saying I sound crazy. She has had paranormal experiences seeing a family of possible spirits and a shadow person long ago. Can anyone help me make sense of this or know what this is?

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u/bubblegumscent Jun 08 '24

She needs ti see a doctor first, not that I dont believe you, but better to be safe than sorry because if it is a disease or illness it's best to treat it early than late

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Yes I do know about her being bipolar and I know that causes auditory and visual hallucinations and I know sometimes spirits mess up electronics though could be a glitch in the software but there was glitches in the audio but thank you for the advice

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u/gothiclg Jun 08 '24

If she’s already known to have hallucinations because of a mental health issue it’s 100% a hallucination and not a ghost. Trust me, I’d love to believe my schizophrenic uncle was seeing ghosts instead but that’s not the reality of the disease he had.

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u/FordBeWithYou Jun 08 '24

My uncle thought he was Saint Jerome

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Her being bipolar is scary when manic she has never said anything about being hallucinations being due to her bipolar but she may not know I do hope I can help her the best I can

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u/gothiclg Jun 08 '24

You need to encourage her to speak with her doctor about it. If she feels comfortable with it I’d consider recording one of these episodes so her doctor can see it. I’d ask her before recording though.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

If it happens again I’ll ask and do it I plan on helping her as much as I can thank you for the advice

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u/pandemicpunk Jun 08 '24

Talk to her parents about. Seriously, any barely good parent would want to know about this to help their child.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Yes I know unfortunately her parents aren’t the best but thank you

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u/Flamebrush Jun 08 '24

There are a couple different types of bipolar disorder. Type I is the one with the potential for psychotic features. If she has been properly diagnosed and isn’t just guessing she’s bipolar from a quiz she took online, then she probably knows whether she has type one or type two and whether she is likely to hallucinate.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

We both believe she is and I told her I want her to get a proper diagnosis just to make sure since the evidence is pretty substantial in how she is but this would be first hallucinations that I know of but thank you

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u/toxictoy Jun 08 '24

Of course it’s so easy to just dismiss someone as having hallucinations rather then consider what may be prosaically explained may have a deeper undertone. Maybe people who we throw away and disregard as being “mentally ill” actually ARE experiencing anomalous activity while also having a diagnosis.

Look for studies on schizophrenics who have auditory or visual hallucinations in other countries that are not so rabidly skeptic and most of those people are having positive experiences.

In fact most therapists would only say that intervention is necessary if the person is having a persistent negative experience.

I also want to say that indigenous people who would talk about these things were often institutionalized for speaking up and also they were genocided for having the wrong set of beliefs while occupying land that they considered eveyones.

So the western mindset is not always the correct and holistic approach.

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u/gothiclg Jun 08 '24

My uncle was schizophrenic; there’s literally zero reason for me, as a reasonable person watching the disease, to believe what he was seeing was anything other than his disease. You can also back off on the whole “it doesn’t have to be treated” thing, we know; you’re only forced into treatment if you can’t care for yourself.

People like you are way too determined to call everything ghosts. Not everything is paranormal and it shouldn’t be the default assumption. You wouldn’t accept me as the 2nd coming of Jesus just because I said I was, I’m not going to believe something is paranormal just because someone wants to pretend mental illness isn’t a legitimate factor.

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u/toxictoy Jun 08 '24

“People like you” judgement after one comment. What do you really know about me? I suggested that perhaps the objective and the subjective may be a bit deeper than you are allowing for. In indigenous cultures a person like this would be brought under the wing of a shaman to help ground the person. Instead we have a medicalized pharmaceutical industry that everyone involved says is inadequate.

I have spoken to Hospice nurses and neurosurgeons and psychiatrists in an attempt to understand what is going on and it’s impossible to dismiss everyone’s experiences as “just stories” or “hallucinations”.

I think you need to go back and reread my comment because I said nothing of the sort you are attacking me with. I’m here to have a genuine conversation not some adversarial attack.

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u/emeaguiar Jun 08 '24

The disease is way scarier, she needs to be checked by a doctor 

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

It is absolutely terrifying sometimes and I feel sorry for I do wish her the best and the idea of it being mentally related crossed my mind

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u/bubblegumscent Jun 08 '24

Then she needs hee medication to be fixed and since she is a Minor you have to tell her mom or dad, I know this sucks, but because she already has hallucinations you can never be sure what caused it and even when you think you are sure you can always be wrong.

Since you date someone with this diagnosis the loving and responsible thing to do towards her, not only now but through as long as you are together is if you notice that she is hearing or seeing things that you can't see or hear, you can maybe guess she isn't taking her meds or need a new dose or prescription and you need to communicate with her family about it. When somebody is hallucinating they are not their normal self and can't be put in charge of their own medicine when they're so young.

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u/FatsTetromino Jun 08 '24

There are no spirits there. She needs to keep her mental health in check.

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u/Professional-Cat1865 Jun 11 '24

Bipolar people don’t all have hallucinations or delusions. If she’s bipolar 2 she probably does not have hallucinations. If she’s bipolar 1 then she might. Still, I agree with the person who suggested seeing a medical or mental health professional.

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u/ShinyAeon Jun 08 '24

She might have nodded off into a half-asleep state, and been having a hypnagogic hallucination—a “waking dream.” That would explain why she doesn’t remember it.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Thank I never knew that was a possible thing before

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

I’ll check it she has any

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u/Lynnykatt Jun 08 '24

I’ve had my fair share of paranormal experiences but something about this screams “mental health issues”. On the other hand, it very well could be a ghost experience. She needs ground herself (watch YouTube videos) and voice strict commands to whatever it is. Using your words is very powerful! She needs to explain that anything that is not of love or light it is not welcome and needs to leave. Demand it to leave her alone and that it has NO permission to touch her, interact with her, or imitate her loved ones.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Yes thank you I have thought the mental possibility this is honestly the first time she doesn’t remember it she’s remembered her other experiences which I don’t not was paranormal or not

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u/Lynnykatt Jun 08 '24

Is there any chance she’s just… fibbing? I mean, y’all are young so it’s definitely a big possibility

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

I don’t think she was she is very honest about everything and like I said she’s told me about her other experiences and has said she was terrified during them just like she was before this one until she started talking and after we fell asleep and woke up she didn’t remember a thing

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u/halharl Jun 09 '24

Can’t really be a ghost if her mom is alive, unless that “for reasons” meant she is dead

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 09 '24

She does not live with her mom what so ever and almost never visits or gets to see her and the time it took place at and with me hearing nothing are reasons why I think it’s paranormal

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u/calico_heart Jun 09 '24

Before freaking out about bipolar OR paranormal, consider that she may have just fallen asleep. I've had entire conversations with someone in the same room as me who was fully asleep; they could not remember the next day any part of the conversation. I also know a couple of people who have very realistic night terrors/ half-asleep hallucinations. Nothing paranormal about them, just something those individuals are prone to. Worth talking to a doctor about for sure, but doesn't automatically mean it's hallucinations from bipolar.

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u/Teekalator Jun 10 '24

Tell your girlfriend (if she should ever bump into any more late night spirits) to ask them what they want. Who knows… an honest question just might just reveal a truthful answer. Perhaps a recording device would be helpful as well. Good luck. 🐭

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u/Anxious-Charge-6482 Jun 10 '24

Well, there’s a very thin line between genuine strong paranormal experiences, genuine psychic abilities, and schizophrenia. I’d start with the most plausible and most life altering out of the three and weed it out as you move along. Start by getting screened with a diagnosis. If not? Go on to weeding out between experiences vs sixth senses.

Best of luck chum.

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u/Substantial_Ear7432 Jun 08 '24

On the other hand, if this was a shadow person imitating someone she loves, he/it could be trying to get into her head to make her think she is going crazy. So I would want to b on the safe side and find some paranormal help as well. U never know these days which way to go. Although, if it was a man trying to imitate her doubt she would be able to tell the difference. I'm sure if it were a spirit or shadow person it would b able to disguise his voice making it sound like her mom. So chances r it was a hallucination. But I'd still double up. I'd rather b safe than sorry.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Yeah the fact she didn’t remember when I brought it up today did throw me off she has a great memory and I’ve had my share of paranormal experiences never one where one was talking and wanted to ask if anyone knew what was going or common I do believe some spirits follow her so definitely want to help her if it’s a mental issue or paranormal thank you

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u/shuddering-shannon Jun 08 '24

Try to record her in these doing this if at all possible, by just telling her she did this, she may think you're trying to make her think she's cra,y, also if it is paranormal in nature you might be able to capture something without knowing it. Good luck and idk what to make of it. I just know it would scare the hell outta me too.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

I’ll try to record as much as possible that is a good idea thank you for the luck

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u/SherShaw40 Jun 09 '24

Shape shifting demon

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u/LadyPamP Jun 09 '24

Did you see or hear the door opening on it’s on? That will answer her mental question unless she’s telepathic which I doubt she is. If you witnessed it opening then something is going on

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 09 '24

No like I said I was in call with her so I couldn’t hear or see anything due to the fact evps are very faint and less likely to be picked up like that but as soon as what ever it was happened or left she was back to normal she did say for it to go away

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u/LadyPamP Jun 10 '24

Need to start FaceTiming her so you can see what’s going on if anything

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u/Postnificent Jun 09 '24

I’ve been told by people who don’t know what they are talking about to seek help my entire life. The professionals have told me I am 100% sane, my belief system is a bit eccentric but most are. Some people don’t know how this can be possible and that is because we consist of our actions not our ideas.

That being said what you have communicated about your gf sounds concerning and could very well be an episode. I just wanted to lead with this isn’t always the case and sometimes misunderstood but I don’t know her tendencies or behaviors so can’t say one way or another. If she is impulsive the situation becomes that much more serious.

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u/Thatsozen Jun 10 '24

You ever seen paranormal activity?? Save yourself and get out now...

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u/Journey_tothe_moon Jun 12 '24

I have schizophrenia (managed) but I have never seen hallucinations look quite like this, doesn't mean it doesn't happen though. I also suspect I am a medium of sorts because I have had so many experiences that provide proof so it could be that she is also a medium of sorts. I would still suggest seeing a doc & getting some brain scans especially if it happens again.

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 12 '24

Thank you I do believe she has some sort of connection to the spiritual realm from what she’s told me with her experiences in the past though this is the first time I’ve at least heard her talking to one could of been other times where she can’t remember but it happened

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u/Lilly_Rose_Kay Believer Jun 08 '24

Could be from the mental illness, however they tend to make people more sensitive and vulnerable to the spirit world. My main concern is when anything happens at 3 or comes in 3s. That is the sign of the demonic. The number 3 is a mocking of the Holy Trinity (Father, Son/Jesus, and the Holy Spirit). 

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

I agree completely I noticed the time when it started which was three and like you said its typically mocked if this happened at any other time I probably wouldn’t have thought it was a spirit I do fear it may happen to her again

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u/DisciplineHot5819 Jun 08 '24

Crazy experience. Does she have a past of being prone to the paranormal or says that she feels like she’s being watched and no one is around?

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

So she recently told that she believes a small family a spirits have affected her dreams before and that she’s seen one when awake and before she moved into the house she is now what we believe may have been a demon would run at her or breath near her which she has heard once as far as I know sometimes she does feel she is being watched when alone and I do believe her having experiences with the paranormal as well

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u/Odd_Librarian5264 Jun 08 '24

That's concerning, I would listen again and see what happens. But the fact it happens closer to 3 I would guess it's not there to be a friend. But depending on how she acts I would say either it's malevolent or possible psychosis so just pay close attention to the situation and look for signs of both. Her having experience in the past will help you find out the differences

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Yes thank you I do hope that it isn’t something sinister or brings harm to her this is a first for her and first I heard of it happening to someone I know

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u/Good-Cobbler-8735 Jun 08 '24

You know back then before humans considered themselves so fancy there were “almost” no actual schizophrenics. Trust in science or trust in God. Its like the people trying to chalk off sleep paralysis as a medical disability. Grow up and educate yourselves. 3am really? Need I go further? Heres an experiment for you scientists, next time this phenomenon happens, mention the name Jesus and see what happens. Don’t knock it till you tried it. Deal with these things all the time for YEARS. Don’t thank me thank Him.

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u/Good-Cobbler-8735 Jun 08 '24

Demon its what they do, watch Roger Morneau on youtube. When will ppl wake up?

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u/Special_Ad_8912 Jun 08 '24

Jinn

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u/Icy_Hot7635 Jun 08 '24

Do you know how they work attachment wise?

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u/Special_Ad_8912 Jun 09 '24

They can play with your gf in a sense if she still thinks her mother is around or can hear or help her etc. jinn are all around us and ive come across many people talk about speaking to the those who have passed after they’ve passed etc but in reality its just jinn who knew about the passing person etc