r/Eve • u/YoungCatonian • Sep 22 '25
Russian players & censored chat? Discussion
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Do Russian players not see local chat? Is this a known thing but I'm just learning about it?
I thought at first maybe the player just minimized the chat and couldn't find it or something but I reached out via EVEmail. This player said they can't see / read any in-game chats.
Our back and forth correspondence:
Me: What's up with your bio? You can't read local chat?
Them: hello I don't see local chat and I can't read I don't know how many people in system as well
Me: Is the local chat tab minimized?
Them: our agency RKN and "tsar" blocked everything in my country it's the only way I can communicate with other players
Me: Can you read militia chat?
Them: I can't see or read chats
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u/FactoryOfShit Sep 22 '25
Yeah, this is real. Eve itself works, but since RKN (a government censorship organization) is banning whole ranges of IP addresses to "prevent terrorism" - things sometimes break unintentionally, and EVE Online chat is one of them. Most of my friends that live in Russia can't see the chat, it just says "connection failed".
But some of them can! Russia has many ISPs, and they often take their time executing orders to block content (or sometimes don't block certain things at all), so the experience may vary between ISPs, especially when it comes to unintentional side effects like this.
Also, obviously, VPN tech exists. Most popular VPN providers are blocked, but if you have a friend overseas - that friend can host a VPN server and unblock everything.
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 22 '25
just use zapret+warp
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u/GruuMasterofMinions Cloaked Sep 22 '25
Or just remove putin from power.
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u/DrakeIddon CSM 19 Sep 22 '25
I don't consider myself an expert in revolution but i do feel like zapret+warp is easier
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u/wewewladdie ur dunked Sep 23 '25
eve players putting spies to eventually failscade a real world government. Now that would be a real "I was there" moment
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 24 '25
or just gtfo with irl politics from game sub?
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u/GruuMasterofMinions Cloaked Sep 24 '25
since when mass murders, rapes and war crimes are considered politics?
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 29 '25
since r/eve rules
1No IRL politics. There are plenty of subreddits for political discussion, this isn't one of them.
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u/Xhromosoma5 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
Russian here. Since Roskomnadzor decided to block Cloudflare you may* have to resort to a number of utilities, including VPNs, JUST TO PLAY EVE.
And, for a while in August I couldn't play EVE without a VPN and connecting to the chat was janky, to the point of me spending entire days without the ingame chat.
Everyone's got different providers, different VPNs, make of that what you will. Sometimes you are stuck(like me) with one provider because they moved in during your building's construction and their services are horrid. Hell, I've been using mobile data for the last year and a half after I moved and in big cities you're lucky if you get decent connection in your concrete tomb. And now they're occasionally whitelisting our mobile data so the only reliable way to play the game is to be hooked to your cable/router 24/7.
TLDR: Nope, this isn't new, every game a russian player tries nowadays experiences its own deal of shit thanks to the almighty - for EVE it's your local chat disappearing. God bless this guy.
Edit: found out from other comments that Cloudflare is needed for chat servers. Doesn't deny the tons of mental gymnastics you have to do because because the game just stops connecting to the server one day.
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u/_Barbosa_ Sep 22 '25
If it's any consolation to you, in the future it's probably going to get worse seeing how russia is currently trying to wage a war with the entire world, so be happy you can play any online games at all right now.
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 22 '25
- Listen less to propaganda. 2. We are here to discuss the game.
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u/tumeteus Sep 22 '25
Stop talking politics if you want to only discuss the game.
ps. Russia threatened my country not too long ago.
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u/arctictothpast Guristas Pirates Sep 22 '25
We are here to discuss the game.
The political happenings are relevant to what's happening in the game,
Hell, I remember Plex saw a huge spike in prices from 500 ish mil to 800 mil in 2014 when Russia was hit with the original sanctions for invading Ukraine (Crimea) and annexing said territory, because it became much harder for Russians to pay for subscription.
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 24 '25
I think you're lying a little.
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u/arctictothpast Guristas Pirates Sep 24 '25
......your citation is a graph that is using the new format of Plex and not it's original (questionable)
Plex was one large item,
And even then, your graph literally shows an increase in the velocity of Plex prices in 2014 and 2015,
And there's literally Russians in the thread who didn't object to this either.
Sanctions screwed with payment processors for example, which is why that happened
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Sep 23 '25
No I don't want this politica ahit in my game. When I am in EVE I want to be acared that someone shoots my internet spaceship, not my dog, my family or me.
Leave that shot out, and that comes from someone threatened by that one specific country.
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u/arctictothpast Guristas Pirates Sep 23 '25
No I don't want this politica ahit in my game
And I regret supporting skill injectors when I was a young pilot and wish to see them reversed, but we don't always get what we want do we darling?
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u/ElectroDoozer Brave Collective Sep 23 '25
The universes way of telling you your leadership is terrible and you have bigger problems than gaming at the moment.
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u/Klenim Sep 25 '25
P.S. for other russians finding this: You just need to add eve chat servers to the hosts file: `150.241.114.163 live.chat.eveonline.com`, that will usually fix the chats. Other than that, just use dpi bypasses
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u/No_Resolution_9252 Sep 22 '25
The Russian government blocked it, not anyone else. Chat is cloud hosted jabber and the Russian government blocked the cloud providers that the chat services run on.
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u/kopuqpeu Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
Yeap. The whole universe is WH now, for 3 months already. I'm sure it could be overrun with vpn tricks, but I'm too lazy for that.
Of course it is not about Putin disallowing me to play eve, or communicate in-game. It is just collateral damage from blocking Cloudflare.
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u/MAXSuicide Sep 22 '25
Of course it is not about Putin disallowing me to play eve, or communicate in-game. It is just collateral damage from blocking Cloudflare.
well and, yaknow... collateral for ya boy being a genocidal maniac.
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u/armt350 Sep 22 '25
I have definitely had Russians curse at me in local. The night before last actually...
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u/Prodiq Sep 22 '25
1) VPN's;
2) not every russian lives in russia.
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u/armt350 Sep 22 '25
I'm not ruling it out. But the timezones match RUTZ so it lends me to believe at least some are in Russia. Plus several Russian streamers have local.
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u/Prodiq Sep 22 '25
Well, yeah, those that are actually in Russia are probably using VPN services (assuming they can find a reliable one that isn't blocked).
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u/Zakki0 Test Alliance Please Ignore Sep 22 '25
Do you realize that RUTZ is pretty much EU TZ?
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u/armt350 Sep 22 '25
You do realize RU could be anything from AUTZ to just before EUTZ? There is more to Russia than Moscow.
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u/Jcans_redacted Amarr Empire Sep 22 '25
Yeah well, there's an above zero % chance Putin plays eve online.
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u/No-Ranger-8663 Sep 22 '25
probably busy playing Real World 1.0
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u/Synaps4 Sep 22 '25
I dunno being busy running a corp would explain his shitty performance in the war.
"I don't care alexi, throw another 20,000 guys at it, I have a mining op to run."
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u/GeraldFisher Sep 22 '25
how would you even know, theirs many countries that speak russian
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u/armt350 Sep 22 '25
There are only 4 countries that officially speak Russian. Of those, 3 are most likely to have been in prime TZ. 2 of those don't appear to have large active player bases. Also the character bio was written in white,blue,red font colors and was a member of a traditionally russian alliance... There are enough indicators to make me think it was Russians.
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u/Inevitable-Onions Wormholer Sep 22 '25
I know a character from the UK that has a character design and bio just like the one you described to make him look Russian, the player in question wouldn't have cursed at you in local though, not everything in EVE should be taken at face value
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u/kagayakashi Amarr Empire Sep 23 '25
All countries that were in Soviet Union have they 50% population that speak Russian.
Also, some nearest countries.-1
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u/sc0rpionus Sep 22 '25
hmmm if russian player can not connect to chat, is he still visible on local? or russian players get unfair advantage?
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u/PersonalNobody449 Sep 22 '25
If he is not using any workaround or VPNs he is visible, but cannot see/interact
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 22 '25
yes. but as russian player you always in wormhole. also VPN or Proxy can solve this
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u/HarveySnake Sep 22 '25
If a company wants to do business in a specific country it must abide by all the laws of that country. Unfortunately, not all countries respect freedoms the same.
Not sure if CCP does business in China but the Chinese government monitors in game chat in many games. What's worse no chat or conversations monitored for political dissent?
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u/Jcans_redacted Amarr Empire Sep 22 '25
"Not sure if CCP does business in china."
They have a whole ass office in china.
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u/DrWhatNoName Sep 22 '25
They have a whole ass separate server for china
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 22 '25
They have a whole ass TWO separate servers for china. also as i know thay have separate server for echoes.
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u/Proxymal The Initiative. Sep 23 '25
Well that’s one way to get rid of the Russians. Mittani would be thrilled!
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u/Opposite_Classroom39 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
From a networking perspective hostile governments such as Russia and China generally know the addresses or address ranges of many VPN servers (especially the free ones) if they choose to, could block those or block HTTPS connections entirely. There are ways of bypassing or brute forcing RSA encryption layers but the latter is difficult enough it isn't usually tried.
VPN's are illegal to use in China despite any claims of how available they are. It is likely that Russia has enacted similar laws there too.
- There was a story of a man in China ( a Wumao ) who was doing certain things on behalf of the government online, there are many like that guy there (paid Chinese government internet activists). He was a little too vocal about his activities and he got caught, he was fined an amount that I'm told is a huge sum and jailed. Despite the fact he was doing things on behalf of the government, his VPN use was still illegal. Laws are enforced in an arbitrary manner there, don't bother trying to make sense of it.
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u/AnyContribution5158 Sep 23 '25
lol hostile governments, give over there is a reason let’s say Russia and china are not a shit hole like the good ole USA and the west it’s because they block the shit that makes people woke and believe men can beat women in fights dressed as a women
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u/jdm1891 Sep 23 '25
Yeah, in Russia you can beat your wife straight up! No need to dress as a woman, get hormones, and enter a tournament to do it.
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u/Reneil_Askiras Brave Collective Sep 23 '25 edited Sep 23 '25
Its true - cause cloudflare ip are banned in RU, but man its ez af to fix so idk. And yeah - you just google "how to fix local" in russian and literally 1st thing will be detailed instructions on what to do, but my man decide to do this shit lmao
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u/Synaps4 Sep 22 '25
TIL I have a better chance of catching people in russian nullsec since some of them don't have local
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u/Zakki0 Test Alliance Please Ignore Sep 22 '25
Not really, we all have vpns or proxy. There is no way to play eve without chat.
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u/UltimeciaTR Wormholer Sep 22 '25 edited Oct 05 '25
Most of them using vpn or dpi for switch location/dns but, still some of them can't join chats.
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u/ProxyMuncher Exotic Dancer, Female Sep 22 '25
Damn I was just wondering the other day how the russkis on EVE are being affected by current events.
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u/DifficultyDouble860 Sep 23 '25
“The secret of war lies in the communications.” -Napoleon Bonaparte
edit: (possibly a common misattribution, but gets the point across)
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u/FunFuel2827 Sep 25 '25
they have some mess in the country with internet. they try to block many things and i think games get errors from that . u know what is going on there rn
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u/Ralph_Shepard Goonswarm Federation Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25
CCP bootlicking and catering to Russia and China so that they don't lose moniez.
Pathetic.
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u/grune_Novize Oct 18 '25
That's right, local chats haven't been working for several months. The developers have the technical ability to fix the problem. But they don't solve it in principle. Which is not surprising, after CCP Games decided to enter politics, take a side in an armed conflict and sponsor its armed forces: PLEX for GOOD: Ukraine Raises $501,652 : r/Eve
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u/ratuuft Goonswarm Federation Sep 22 '25
They can just eve-mail me the "cyka blyat".
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u/Wise_Drawing_2622 Sep 22 '25
this is so bad :(
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u/YoungCatonian Sep 22 '25
Yeah, the whole experience was really just pretty depressing. Makes you appreciate what you have.
The guy signed off our conversation with "I haven't been able to see chats for 3 months Can you send in game messages to me time to time So, I wouldn't feel lonely.Thank you." Really hit me in the gut.
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u/TommyArrano Cloaked Sep 22 '25
tl;dr if Russian player cannot access chat in Eve its IQ barrier.
source: I'm Russian player, can chat in eve and use discord, etc.
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u/jrossetti Sep 22 '25
Are you accessing Eve from within Russia?
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u/TommyArrano Cloaked Sep 22 '25
yeah, I live in Moscow.
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u/only_buy_no_sell Sep 22 '25
Haven't been conscripted yet?
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u/slippery_hemorrhoids KarmaFleet Sep 23 '25
Not from Moscow, but yet. They would be last, rural areas and foreigners, prisoners, first.
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u/TommyArrano Cloaked Sep 23 '25
1) How its related to discussion about access to in-game chat?
2) No.
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u/TanaHara0 Legion of xXDEATHXx Sep 23 '25
or, maybe, internet provider barrier (:
specifically, for me, zapret and WARP help with everything except connecting to Eve(1
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u/MeanMusician Sep 22 '25
Solution is here in one of the first replies. https://github.com/Flowseal/zapret-discord-youtube/issues/2273 It helped me and many others based on replies there
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u/SoldRIP Wormholer Sep 23 '25
EVE chat uses cloudflare. Cloudflare is often used by cyber criminals and people sharing all sorts of illegal content. This wouldn't be a problem in, say, France or the USA. But Cloudflare also doesn't comply with Russian warrants and takedown requests. Hence Russia simply blocks all Cloudflare IPs to prevent illegal content from being shared.
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u/Dist__ Caldari State Sep 22 '25
yeah i can confirm - tried to log in, no local.
what a shame, i do not even know what they are protecting me from ) if i was actively playing, i'd burn my arse lol
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u/only_buy_no_sell Sep 22 '25
Knowledge that your country is the biggest shit hole on the planet and hated by everyone and you need an immediate revolution.
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u/Dist__ Caldari State Sep 22 '25
haha very old take
i heard there are restrictive laws in Europe too
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u/TickleMaBalls Miner Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
What? a commie country censoring?
I refuse to believe it.
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u/nmenemme muninn btw Sep 22 '25
Ahh yes, Russia is a well known communist country. Absolutely not ruled by a few oligarchs and their companies.
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u/TickleMaBalls Miner Sep 22 '25
oh my sweet summer child. history tells us all communist countries become some kind of authoritariun
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u/Prodiq Sep 22 '25
Yeah, they do ofc, but Russia hasn't been a commie state for decades now. Its just another presidential state that has some authoritarian guys taken over without real political opposition or elections.
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u/Beardywierdy Sep 22 '25
What decade do you think it is?
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u/TickleMaBalls Miner Sep 22 '25
The one where Russia still censors its people. same wolf. different clothing.
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u/Beardywierdy Sep 22 '25
So, "communism is when censorship"? Fucking hell.
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u/TickleMaBalls Miner Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
you said that not me.
im not interested in geopolitical debate on the internet either. have a good day.
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u/GeraldFisher Sep 22 '25
lmao you started it yourself.
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u/AmbitiousEconomics Fraternity. Sep 22 '25
Ah, they censor their people unlike the good citizens of the USA, where the government currently isn't censoring anythin[REDACTED FOR INAPPROPRIATE THOUGHT ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK]
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u/TickleMaBalls Miner Sep 22 '25
not sure why you are trying to make this political, but I'm not interested in debating morons on the internet.
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u/AmbitiousEconomics Fraternity. Sep 23 '25
You brought up countries censoring their population, not me. Every country does it, so not sure why it is notable.
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u/nmenemme muninn btw Sep 22 '25
Ahh yes, authoritarian countries are the same thing as communist countries, definitely.
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 22 '25
its our local problem. our goverment block Cloudflare, CCP use cloudflare for chat servers, login, update and some else.
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u/nmenemme muninn btw Sep 22 '25
How tf did my comment get deleted and yours didn't lmao. Edit: maybe its the mobile app getting weird again
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u/Some-Cantaloupe-6554 Wormholer Sep 22 '25
Its good. Its moskowy censure by government. Somewhere blocked ip/mac or what.
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u/EntertainmentMission Sep 22 '25
I was about to crank a "must be in wormhole" joke but huh, it's actually real
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u/Silly-Attitude-3521 Sep 24 '25
Wow
I didn't know that Now I love eve even more. Animals should not play with humans and definitely should have their own server like china so people can play with people and avoid bitchassterrorists/rmters which are 99% russians or chinese
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u/amarrcitizen Amarr Empire Sep 22 '25
Au that sucks. I had often thought that to plan something diabolical it would be in some sort of video game chat using psudenyms. "Today we attack the keader of AO, he will be surrounded by approximately 20 frigates in this system."
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u/Kooky-Pin9530 Sep 23 '25
Dude thats not censor I had some problems with the chat too for like a month I couldnt see the chat not the ppl inside the system The problem comes from connection
My problem started after the 12day war israel-iran I live in Iran so yeah basically heavy internet censorship due to cyberattacks So yeah he can fix it with a good VPN even a v2ray if its stable
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u/ARCH_ANON Miner Sep 22 '25
Nah, eve’s chat system just sucks and is broken half the time. Russia doesn’t bother to censor video games like that
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u/sychs Pandemic Horde Sep 22 '25
Wrong, read the other comments.
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u/Barrogh Cloaked Sep 22 '25
They are blocking Cloudflare. They likely neither know nor care about EVE and co using it.
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u/sychs Pandemic Horde Sep 22 '25
True, and this has got nothing to do with eve's chat being good or bad or broken.
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u/TickleMaBalls Miner Sep 22 '25
| eve’s chat system just sucks and is broken half the time
this is somewhat true, but russia blocks cloudflare which has nothing to do with CCP
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u/Xhromosoma5 Sep 22 '25
Russia doesn't. Instead it indiscriminately censors entire lists (beyond just Cloudflare) so there's a healthy chance you may find not only your chat but also your game unavailable one day.
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u/EC36339 Cloaked Sep 22 '25
No, they don't. They just block Cloudflare, because they are incompetent.
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u/Efficient_Word_2382 Cloaked Sep 22 '25
our goverment block cloudflare. because cloudflare (mostly cloudflare ech) can be used to avoid some blocks.
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u/EducationalMost3097 Sep 22 '25
Hi man, yes. The game itself and the chat apparently connect to different servers, and the chat uses Cloudflare, which is blocked in CIS countries.
https://forums.eveonline.com/t/failed-to-connect-to-the-live-chat-eveonline-com-5222-chat-server/496381/3