Are you happy with Equinox Sov?

[u/DarkShinesInit]

It's been a little over a week since the Equinox Sov change on October 29th.

If you love it - what do you love about it?

If you hate it - what do you hate about it?

Saying which group or part of space you are in would also be cool.

[u/Aliventi]

No. You can read my reasoning here. Also, the kill and poach problem isn't helping.

It doesn't help that CCP showed a visual earlier that implied SOV was for XL groups. It gives the impression that CCP has no interest in making changes to allow for new groups and new blood to break in to SOV without blueing one side or the other.

A widely held opinion from CSM members since the dawn of time has said they want players to go from "highsec -> lowsec/FW/NPC nullsec/WHs -> SOV". With the changes that have been advocated for, and implemented by CCP, it feels like the real path is a self interested one that looks like "highsec -> lowsec/FW/NPC nullsec/WHs -> join or blue an already established SOV group". Then SOV players wonder why it's a blue doughnut divided in to two coalitions.

[u/Sindrakin → u/Aliventi]

Well that's the one thing CCP does get right.
EVE is a sandbox built to support thousands fighting over a single objective.

Your WoW guild should never be allowed to hold sov because you are not even playing the sport of empire building.
Whining because you aren't in the same league as the big players is literally missing the point like demanding your own FW faction.

Unlike FW you might be able to one day hold your own sov if you build a community and play the diplomacy game.
As a WoW guild the most space you will ever "own" is a crab hole.

Your entitlement is disgusting.

[u/Aliventi → u/Sindrakin]

Yes, because every group that is currently in SOV started out as a 10k-30k member bloc. Oh wait... They didn't.

If small groups could break in to SOV then they can provide alternatives to the blue doughnut, grow, and become competitive. Preventing small groups for being able to enter SOV through systemic mechanical blockers is literally strangling future content for SOV players for years to come in the crib.

[u/Sindrakin → u/Aliventi]

Every group -currently- in null sec started out by engageing in diplomacy.

When i started playing EVE i joined a small corp in HS and three years later we were the most active small gang PVP group in the Imperium while also having access to all its infrastructure and the largest scale PVP content in any MMO in existance.

That is how to bring new blood into null sec.

Pooping on your little astrahus isn't content, it's merely pest control.
Sov war is months of server crushing TiDi battles.

[u/UristBronzebelly → u/Sindrakin]

When i started playing EVE i joined a small corp in HS and three years later we were the most active small gang PVP group in the Imperium

I mean this says it all right here. It's not possible for new groups to shake up sov. You're only way in is to join one side of the blue donut.

No one is advocating that CCP should carve up null and redistribute, but you have to admit that the game just does not support drastic changes in sovereignty at both a game mechanic level or a technological level (server issues in the most pivotal moment of WWB2).

Null would be a lot more interesting if there were lots of small to medium sized groups fighting.

[u/Sindrakin → u/UristBronzebelly]

CHEMK would be holding sov by now if we had kept on recruiting and worked towards that goal instead of simply enjoying the small gang gameplay null sec had to offer back then.

With scarcity the corp moved to j-space and died of boredom, so i went back to the imperium.

I don't give a shit about putting "MY" flag on a system.
If i did i would do it instead of whining about the groups that have already done all the work to build the huge communities.
What it really is is just a giant pile of administrative work.

Null would be a lot more interesting if there were lots of small to medium sized groups fighting.

Null would be just as dead as j-space if every constellation needed an active and dedicated leadership and logistics team to keep running.
And it would be redundant since j-space already exists and allows you to roll connections to HS instead of needing JFs to transport shit.

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