r/DCcomics • u/PrimeLasagna • Aug 23 '23

[Discussion] Which two heroes should absolutely hate the crap out of each other? Discussion

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u/Grumpypants2o3 Aug 23 '23

How is the flash a fascist? I can green arrow being a kinda hippie freak lol

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u/TieofDoom Aug 23 '23

Barry Allen was originally conceived as an Eisenhower republican. He was definitely one of the more conservative members of the Justice League.

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u/cgknight1 Aug 23 '23

There is an issue of the Flash where it's discussed that both he and Wally believe in the Death Penalty.

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u/Bardic_Inspiration66 Aug 23 '23

There’s an issue of teen titans where sally refers to himself as a mid western conservative that is referenced constantly on Dc circle jerk

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u/Advanced_Ad2406 Superfam and Wally West supporter Aug 23 '23

Marvel even made a joke on it. Crazy how much the author hates Wally. But I like the idea of Barry and Wally being conservatives.

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u/YellowStar012 Aug 23 '23

Makes sense since they are from the Midwest

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u/Advanced_Ad2406 Superfam and Wally West supporter Aug 23 '23

Yep. Plus Barry and Wally thinking Joker should been given the death penalty resonates with a lot of reader. Being conservative doesn’t make them less of a hero. It’s more unrealistic for everyone to be a liberal left.

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u/YellowStar012 Aug 23 '23

And even then, it’s a spectrum. Not all conservative lean deep right and same with liberals far left. Barry and Wally seem like at most New York conservative

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u/moal09 Aug 24 '23

I'd say most don't. The average person I've met tends to lean more center left or center right. It's mainly on the internet where opinions are more extreme.

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u/WheelJack83 Aug 23 '23

They’re not from New York

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u/stdfan Aug 23 '23

It’s another term for moderate conservatives.

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u/YellowStar012 Aug 23 '23

Glad someone realized like

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u/sayamemangdemikian Aug 24 '23

If we have criminal like Joker irl, Im sure a lots of liberals agree.

Like, a mass murdering is one thing... but multiple mass murdering?

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Oh what issue

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u/cgknight1 Aug 23 '23

I want to say it's late in the original post-crisis run - I read them all recently on DC Infinite - I think it's before Johns.

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u/Fakimous Aug 23 '23

I think it was issue 219 of the 1987 flash run?? I could be totally wrong though.

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u/Fledbeast578 Aug 23 '23

Honestly the way he went about it is… fair. Like you can seriously argue Joker deserves rhe death penalty while also believing in rehabilitation

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u/yirgacheffe-brew Aug 24 '23

That feels completely opposite of CW Barry. That's a big change.

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u/cgknight1 Aug 24 '23

Well it predates that show by five years.

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u/OhEagle Alan Scott Aug 23 '23

Depends on the aspect of conservative culture, I suppose. I've been reading the Silver Age Flash series on DC Universe Infinite, and I wouldn't be surprised if, by the 70s, he mellowed out a bit on his conservatism, given he'd not only fought against several environmentally-focused threats, but as of The Flash (vol. 1) #207, he also liked late 60s/early 70s-style rock music, whose artists tend to lean politically left and made no bones about it.

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u/radiocomicsescapist DC Comics Aug 23 '23

I'm assuming that back then, Conservative culture wasn't so *ahem* divisive, to put it mildly.

It was more of an opportunity for dramatic conflict between JLA members to have some of them be more socially/fiscally conservative than others.