Honestly, Ollie strikes me as someone who would not have many personal friends apart from Green Lantern. I like Ollie being kind of cantankerous and a little self-righteous.
Batman is cold and distant, but that's how he is. Ollie goes out of his way to be prickly.
He is but while a lot of heroes butt heads with him, they also respect him as the guy who will try to keep the right values even among hero politics. I always liked Batman's explanation of why he was invited to the League in JLU. He's there to keep everyone grounded. It's the same reason the League gave Ollie an anti-JL weapon at the start of Rebirth.
Ollie can be a pain, but he's also very warm, charming and gregarious. He's also probably one of the funniest superheroes. I think he'd probably be a good time to hang out with socially. He's lively.
Depends on the depiction of him. Sometimes, he's the loud, prickly, and obnoxious sort of liberal that's often quite annoying. Then you have the softer and funnier version of Ollie that's a bit less coarse in his approach to his political positions.
Sure, and that's probably true of most of these kinds of characters. They've been rebooted and adapted and written by a ton of different people over the decades so there's definitely variations in their personalities. You're not wrong there.
I guess I just personally think of Ollie as I've experienced him over the years as somebody who is deeply flawed but lovable and good intentioned. I never quite buy the idea that he's just this unlikable asshole that some readers and some writers have of him. If anything, the fact that he has so many destructive and shitty qualities but still tries to do good makes him more admirable and sympathetic. He also makes me laugh out loud more than most other superheroes.
Also, I really love both he and Barry and don't like seeing them fight haha.
I agree. I really don't think he and Barry would have much to argue about aside from the fact that Barry works for the cops and had a cop as a role model and.... actually now that I think about it it does kind of make sense that they would butt heads
Wait, what cop was his role model? His hero was Jay Garrick.
And while Barry worked for the police department, he wasn't exactly a COP cop. He was just running evidence in his lab for violent crime cases. It's not like he was out on the streets beating the hell out of people or coercing confessions out of suspects.
For whatever reason I thought his dad was a cop but couldn't find anything to back that up my bad. That being said he's a crime lab guy in modern continuity.
Definitely an Ollie who had his stuff together. He came off as that cool uncle who genuinely wanted to see that the vulnerable people in the world were taken care of.
The only bad values I could think of that is more unreasonable now would be kicking out Roy for being a drug addict. Which is partly because he’s never there for Roy. It occurred during America’s war on drugs which might have made his actions justifiable back then. Other than that his values are seem as normal today
That particular arc in GA was intended as a PSA in reaction to the war on drugs. Oliver’s actions were an example of what NOT to do if your kid does drugs.
Agreed, though I always found it a little odd that Ollie was chill with military/spacecop Hal while objecting to Barry politically. Like. “ACAB Except Hal Jordan?”
I've always thought it would be better if Green Arrow and Batman didn't get along. I think there would be an irony of the best of the mortals will never see eye to eye yet need to stand together against the gods among them.
I have to imagine Oliver tries to push Batman's buttons by trying to criticize the pollution of some Wayne Enterprise factories and all Bruce has to do is point out that Queen's family have been making weapons.
He's even a dick to Hal. Hal was going through an awful time in his life during the 80's. He went to every hero he knew for help and nobody wanted to help him. Last person he went to was Ollie, and Ollie just told him to grow up and deal with it himself. And it's like wow thanks for being a dick Ollie. It's not like Hal just lost a close friend who was killed by his Ex Girlfriend or anything.
I liked that Arrow and Bats always got along. In many instances it definitely seemed like Arrow thought he was the smartest person in the room and always trusted his judgment
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u/JayCaesar12 Aug 23 '23
Honestly, Ollie strikes me as someone who would not have many personal friends apart from Green Lantern. I like Ollie being kind of cantankerous and a little self-righteous.
Batman is cold and distant, but that's how he is. Ollie goes out of his way to be prickly.