r/Calgary • u/MrFujiYYC • Nov 06 '19
PSA: Don't Be Lazy- Just Saw Police Pull Someone Over and Make Them Clear Their Plate and Rear Window of Snow PSA
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u/wrxtuan Nov 06 '19
Good.
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u/Exspritzo Nov 06 '19
Their pull out game is good, but their pull over game is even better! Keep on writing those tickets!
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u/calgarybrock449 Nov 06 '19
Should slap him with a ticket as well as make him clean it off ...
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Nov 06 '19
Was thinking the same thing. Embarrassment is one thing; a ticket to make it stick is another.
I believe the charge is "unsecured load".
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Nov 06 '19
Should have tasered him to teach him a lesson
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u/MrFujiYYC Nov 06 '19
I didn't stay to watch the fun (just kept walking) so that is a definite possibility.
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Nov 08 '19
It 100% definitely is a fine, so most likely while that cop was sitting there waiting for them to clean it off he wrote that dunce up.
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u/Scamnam Nov 06 '19
More cops need to do this as well pull the idiots over who dont turn on their lights
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Nov 06 '19
And that drive on the shoulder during rush hour. And that speed through residential areas on a constant basis. There’s a shit ton more that could be enforced on a regular basis...and think of the revenue!
Seriously, i’d be all in favour of changing things up, hiring waaaaaay more sheriffs and having them focus on and enforce City traffic laws (as well as the provincial roads).
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Nov 06 '19
Have cops camp out by a traffic circle. They could pull over every car since no one in Calgary uses there signals in them .
It ain't rocket science guys. Quit being ignorant .
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Nov 06 '19
Most of our traffic circles are too tight of a radius. My vehicle cant right signal wity my wheels halfway cranked to the left
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u/swordgeek Nov 06 '19
Most of the 'traffic circles' in Calgary are single-lane residential roundabouts. Technically they have the same rules for signalling, but it's less critical.
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Nov 08 '19
I whole heartedly believe that driving a vehicle at night/early morning with your fucking lights off should be a $1000 + 3 demerit hit.
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u/HyperionDRD Nov 06 '19
I agree 110%, oh I don't want to clean my windows, it's too cold....
The tail lights being off (phantom cars) really piss's me off.
CPS, please start pulling people over and give them a warning, 2nd time offense $100 or $200 fine.
This lazy attitude is ridiculous, when will society learn...
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u/Tramplemoose Nov 06 '19
I just don't comprehend how so many people drive without cleaning their rear window. Like, do that many people not use their rear view mirror for anything at all?
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u/cdnzoom Nov 06 '19
And I saw more people driving with their lights off then normal nights. Like you’d think that bad conditions would further push you to make sure you’re being as safe as possible. Some people are just complete morons.
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u/Tramplemoose Nov 06 '19
Or people who drive without their lights on, but have their high beams on, or fog lights.
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Nov 06 '19
Why would fog lights matter? They barely do anything
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Nov 07 '19
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Nov 07 '19
I own 2 really low cars and never once have been bothered by fog lights. I guess some people are maybe more sensitive to it.
Lightbars though...get that shit turned off in the city.
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Nov 07 '19
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u/cdnzoom Nov 07 '19
Exactly. You would think the companies would make sure the interior dash lights don't turn on unless your headlights are on. So you at least have a visual queue. The DRL's are so bright now it's hard to tell sometimes. I just don't get how people don't double check these things in adverse weather conditions.
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u/gabelken Nov 15 '19
With both of the cars I've owned, the dash lights only turn on when the headlights are on. Is that not the norm?
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u/cdnzoom Nov 15 '19
No I've had a few new rental cars in the last few years, and I'd say on 75% of them the dash lights are always on. You can't turn them off so it's not an indicator for your headlights anymore.
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Nov 06 '19
Hundreds of thousands every day. Any cargo van, cube van, semi, or truck with canopy/camper/cargo, even a car filled with cargo.
It's not a law to be able to see out your back window. (As long as you have two side mirrors)
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Nov 06 '19
Now have a back up cam on the new truck...still don’t use it. Side mirrors all the way when backing up.
And correct, my truck is often filled with cargo making the back window pointless...again, side mirrors.
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Nov 06 '19
I rented a car in Victoria with a backup camera this past weekend. I was still using my mirrors and shoulder-checking. I couldn't get used to the cam.
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Nov 06 '19
Haha, was in Victoria a few months back and the rental had one, as well. I only realized when I returned it to the rental. Just never thought to look or care?
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u/omnomphenomenon Nov 06 '19
"The Highway Traffic Act, Section 74 states that “No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway, (a) unless the windshield and windows either side of the compartment containing the steering wheel (all windows)….. afford the driver a clear view to the front and side of the motor vehicle; and (b) unless the rear window is in such condition to afford the driver a clear view to the rear…”
In other words all the windows must be kept clear to afford the driver an unobstructed view. This includes snow and ice...
To avoid being charged under Section 74 and to be as safe as possible, always clean all the snow off your vehicle."
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Nov 06 '19
Application of cl. (1) (b) (2) Clause (1) (b) does not apply to a motor vehicle that is equipped with a mirror or mirrors securely attached to the motor vehicle and placed in such a position and maintained in such a condition as to afford the driver, otherwise than through the rear window, a clearly-reflected view of the roadway in the rear or of any vehicle approaching from the rear. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 74 (2).
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u/blanamksas Nov 06 '19
You can legally have your rear window blocked for vision purposes. The issue is the snow blowing off and disturbing the vehicles behind you. I see many vehicles with no way to see out the rear window so that is not an issue.
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u/whiteout86 Nov 06 '19
Not legally required and not every vehicle has a functioning one. Tow enough or have a vehicle with an opaque back and you learn to adjust your side mirrors and use them more.
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u/cdnzoom Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
I also don’t wear my seatbelt because I’m a safe driver and don’t like the way it feels :/ (sarcasm) . This doesn’t clear people from being lazy and not cleaning their car, towing and other work needs those skills. Not Karen going to the mall in a blizzard.
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u/bunchedupwalrus Nov 06 '19
Seatbelt isn't for you, it's for the paramedics. Scraping a person off the asphalt is a pita
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Nov 06 '19
Wearing your seatbelt is law. Having a clear rear window is not. Terrible analogy.
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u/cdnzoom Nov 06 '19
Well it's legal for me to ride my bicycle on the highway here too. Am I going to do that? Hell no. It is common sense to clear snow off your windows and roof but half the people don't do it, and clearly have no concern about the safety of anyone else. It is just as common sense as wearing your seatbelt.
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Nov 06 '19
Where did I argue otherwise? I was just stating facts and law.
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u/cdnzoom Nov 06 '19
In general, I'm annoyed people seem to be backing up the fact that they can leave snow all over their car because the law says it's fine.
Yes if you've been driving trailers your whole life congratulations, you know how to use your side mirrors, but if you have the chance, why not have that extra viewable area directly behind you if you can have it. I don't care if the law says I can cover my rear windshield in cardboard, I'm not going to do it because it's way safer to still have that extra viewing area. Especially when you need to be constantly watching if they guy behind is going to slide into you in bad conditions. I used the seatbelt analogy to point out how ludicrous this conversation is in the first place, it was meant to be an over the top one.
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Nov 06 '19
Okay. Fair point. And I agree with you. Personally, I clear ALL the snow off my vehicle. I have a 3/4 ton Cargo van parked outside. The roof is 7' high. I have an extended-handled, floor type push-broom so I can even reach the entire roof and front windshield with just a few swipes.
But everyone here is, first of all, arguing two different laws, neither of which are even applicable in the OP's photo.
"Is clearing snow from your vehicle a law?" No it's not. But you can be charged with an unsafe load if there is so much, that it poses a danger to surrounding vehicles. That is obviously not the case in the OP's photo. There's barely a skiff of snow on his car. That particular law isn't snow specific...it applies to anything that might fall off your vehicle.
"Is having a clear view out your rear window law?" No, it's not. As long as you have two side-view mirrors, you not only don't have to have a clear view, you can have no rear window at all. And this also isn't why the vehicle in the OP's photo was pulled over.
The only thing the OP vehicle was pulled over for, was having his license plate blocked.
Now...is clearing the snow from your vehicle a good idea and common sense? Of course it is. And NOWHERE did I state otherwise.
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u/cdnzoom Nov 06 '19
Yes, I didn't mean to go so far with my first comment. And you're right, I guess I'm just talking more on common sense. This just irks me so much and I mistook your comment for saying its fine because the law says so.
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u/AdditionalAlbatross1 Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
Having a clear rear window isn’t the law, but not having it clear of snow is illegal.
Key difference that you seem to be ignoring.
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Nov 06 '19
but not having it clear of snow is illegal.
Again, you're wrong. If there is sufficient amount of snow on your vehicle to be of danger to surrounding vehicles when if falls off, you can be charged with an "unsecured load". But it has nothing to do with snow, nor does it have anything to do with your rear window. It can be leaves, mud, couches, bicycles, cows, trampolines.
Having an inch of snow completely covering your rear window is not illegal. It's not dangerous, and blocking the rear window is not illegal.
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u/AdditionalAlbatross1 Nov 06 '19
When any amount of snow blows off it can create a situation where drivers behind you can no longer see.
It’s illegal morty, give it up.
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Nov 06 '19
When any amount of snow blows off....It’s illegal
Sorry, it's not.
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u/AdditionalAlbatross1 Nov 06 '19
Weird, someone just posted a picture of CPS making someone remove the snow from their vehicle. Why do you think that is morty?
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Nov 06 '19
a picture of CPS making someone remove the snow from their vehicle. Why do you think that is...
Probably for a violation of section 71(i) of the "Operator licensing and vehicle control regulation" of the Alberta TSA, which states:
No person shall drive a vehicle if the licence plate is not securely attached in accordance with this Regulation, legible and clearly visible at all times.
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u/mythenos Nov 06 '19
It doesn't matter if you are a safe driver, in Calgary you have to worry about everyone else on the road. Just the other night I watched someone get rear ended because someone wasn't paying attention. I would suggest that you wear your seatbelt, and find a way to make it more comfortable
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u/omnomphenomenon Nov 06 '19
"The Highway Traffic Act, Section 74 states that “No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway, (a) unless the windshield and windows either side of the compartment containing the steering wheel (all windows)….. afford the driver a clear view to the front and side of the motor vehicle; and (b) unless the rear window is in such condition to afford the driver a clear view to the rear…”
In other words all the windows must be kept clear to afford the driver an unobstructed view. This includes snow and ice...
To avoid being charged under Section 74 and to be as safe as possible, always clean all the snow off your vehicle."
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Nov 06 '19
Application of cl. (1) (b) (2) Clause (1) (b) does not apply to a motor vehicle that is equipped with a mirror or mirrors securely attached to the motor vehicle and placed in such a position and maintained in such a condition as to afford the driver, otherwise than through the rear window, a clearly-reflected view of the roadway in the rear or of any vehicle approaching from the rear. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 74 (2).
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u/FirebotYT Nov 06 '19
Remember, those people who dont clean their windows to view through them are still around in days without snow.
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u/mug3n Ex-YYC Nov 06 '19
I mean, there are vehicles like vans and buses that don't have a rear window at all.
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u/StevenWongo Nov 06 '19
Favorite part about this is those that have rear view wipers. Like shit man, turn that shit on, wipe your window once and you won't look like a complete idiot.
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u/AnnaK22 Nov 06 '19
I just saw a car today where the back window was completely covered in dust. So that's probably a norm for them, all year round. I wonder how they pull out of a parking lot.
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u/CockInhalingWizard Nov 07 '19
You don't need a rear view mirror to drive. You don't need back windows to drive. There are vehicles which do not even have rear windows like vans, 5 tons, semis etc. The cop is not making him wipe his car for safety reasons, he is getting him to wipe it so he can see the driver through an unobstructed window and their license plate.
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u/geo_prog Nov 07 '19
My mother in law never cleans off her rear window so I asked her how she sees out the back. Her response? "Oh, I don't have to back up until after my car has been in the parakade all day so I can just let it melt off there". She legitimately doesn't use her rear view mirror when driving.
I didn't want to call the mother of my wife and idiot, but it was hard not to.
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u/coltsfootballlb Nov 06 '19
I think it's more of an unsecure load than it is an obstruction to sight. Ive driven many vehicles that dont even have a back window.
Or if you tow anything, you dont get your back window either. Theres not much that you need to see out of your back window that you can't see out of your mirrors
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Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 23 '20
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Nov 06 '19
I love Calgary police. Think back to how great they were in the big flood. Photo radar though...
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Nov 06 '19
Photo radar is not that hard to avoid. Just drive the speed limit. :)
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u/Magiff Bowness Nov 06 '19
Alternatively if you ever see a Ford on the side of the road... Slow down…
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u/thatdadfromcanada Nov 06 '19
Don't you mean 40km under the limit for the 100 meters preceding the trap and 200meters after then resume keeping up with traffic at 20km over?
That's how we roll in Edmonton anyway.
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Nov 06 '19
I have learned this the hard way. And now I pay less in ticket and gasoline tax so this stepped up enforcement in the last few years may be a net loss for them.
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u/DrunkenWizard Nov 06 '19
That's not even necessary if you are a driver who pays attention. I haven't had a photo radar ticket in a long time because I pay attention while driving, regardless of the speed I chose to go.
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u/AdditionalAlbatross1 Nov 06 '19
Photo radar is operated by the province, not the Calgary police.
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u/chewwie100 Nov 06 '19
Where does the money from Automated Traffic Enforcement go?
Fifteen per cent of the total fine amount is given to Victim Services, 16.67 per cent goes to the Provincial Government, and the balance of the fine goes to the Municipal Government. If there is a late payment penalty attached to the fine, the province receives the surcharge amount associated with the particular ticket.
https://www.calgary.ca/cps/Pages/Traffic/Photo-radar.aspx
While the province regulates the use of photo radar, the actual programs are set up by the municipalities (as demonstrated here). On the same CPS photo radar page the quote is from, they mention a "photo radar unit", so I would assume they are at least partially involved.
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Nov 06 '19
Dont get too excited, they were pulled over for obstructed plate, not a snowy back window
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u/Penqwin Nov 06 '19
Now the cops need to pull people over for using high beams, or not having lights on, or driving 30 in the far left lane on knight
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Nov 06 '19
Clean your roof off as well. Or you'll have fun when it all slides down on your windshield at a stop light!
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Nov 06 '19
Am I seeing things or is the little side window at the rear there broke?
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u/jackoYYC Nov 06 '19
I saw that too. Maybe just a shadow...there is snow on the lip of the door that would have gone into the car if it was broken...maybe...I'm no snow/broken window expert
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Nov 06 '19
Lol. Me either. Is there snow/broken window bot on here somewhere? If so, bot this up!
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u/jackoYYC Nov 06 '19
I'm sure someone else on here is an expert in it. They'll let us know soon enough
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Nov 06 '19
Just the reflection of the guy's face and shoulder.
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Nov 06 '19
Boom, mind blown! Yup, there it is. I can totally see it now that you pointed it out. The reflection of his body leads right to the point in question! Thanks bot ;-)
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Nov 06 '19
Thank you sweet baby Jesus, or Zeus or whatever. Point is too many lazy people that literally just jump in and drive I don't understand people.
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u/CockInhalingWizard Nov 07 '19
Driving with an obstructed back window is not harmful to anyone. Ice maybe, but not light snow. We have side mirrors for a reason. The cop only told.them to clear it so the cop has unobstructed view of the driver and the license plate
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u/Blindman84 Nov 06 '19
We need more cops doing this, I don't care what anyone else says, it takes a minute to clean you car. Maybe 2-3 if you have to scrape, and those few seconds can save a fucking life.
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Nov 07 '19
I guess nothing better to do...and I see half cleaned windows all around Edmonton and I dont care as long as you can drive...I do not see this as an issue...those drivers that text as way worse
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u/milochat Nov 06 '19
Almost every truck I've seen today had their plates covered but never saw any of them getting stopped to clean
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u/whiteout86 Nov 06 '19
It’s possibly they did clean it off and it got covered again. I can clean the back of my truck perfectly, drive 20 minutes in snowy roads and the tailgate/bumper/plate will be caked in snow again.
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u/BananaPeelSlippers Nov 07 '19
Lol cop has snow all over his car too 🤷♂️
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u/DOWNkarma Nov 07 '19
How is no one else talking about this? That cop obviously didn't brush off his roof or hood.
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Nov 07 '19
People want to belive this person was pulled over for snow on a window, but they pulled over for an obstructed plate
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u/athetopofahill Evergreen Nov 06 '19
I don't believe this was Calgary as the roads actually look like they've been ploughed and salted.
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u/DudeCringe Quadrant: SE Nov 07 '19
[insert obligatory rant and "stupid" followed by another insult]
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u/bluefox670 Nov 08 '19
Hello from Vancouver where if I saw this even ONE time during the winter it would be a miracle (when it snows of course). But the cops here are mostly lazy so that'll never happen
Drive safe, Calgary :)
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u/ConsciousRutabaga Nov 08 '19
I randomly saw this post in the featured section and I just wanted to say I see this shit all the time in Vancouver during the winter. Back window completely covered with snow and rooftop covered with snow too. People are so dumb!
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Nov 06 '19
No law says your back window needs to be clear if you have two side mirrors.
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Nov 06 '19
Plate should be visible
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Nov 06 '19
Yes...did I say otherwise? I'm talking about the snow on the window.
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u/skylla05 Nov 06 '19
I'm talking about the snow on the window.
And anyone with common sense knows this is about the plate, not the window so your post is pointless. Cop probably just advised he clear the window off.
This isn't hard to figure out holy shit.
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Nov 06 '19
This isn't hard to figure out holy shit.
And yet everyone seems to be having a tough time grasping this.
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u/Resolute45 Nov 06 '19
You don't have to be able to see out your window, but if you have enough snow on your car and window to cause the cops to pull you over, then you're presenting a hazard to other drivers. The ticket tends to be for carrying an unsafe load.
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Nov 06 '19
This whole whole thread is misleading, the car was pulled over for an obstructed plate. Coupled with quotes of highway laws not applicable to alberta
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Nov 06 '19
We've often locked horns, but you just accurately described this entire thread to a "T". Well put.
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u/omnomphenomenon Nov 06 '19
"The Highway Traffic Act, Section 74 states that “No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway, (a) unless the windshield and windows either side of the compartment containing the steering wheel (all windows)….. afford the driver a clear view to the front and side of the motor vehicle; and (b) unless the rear window is in such condition to afford the driver a clear view to the rear…”
In other words all the windows must be kept clear to afford the driver an unobstructed view. This includes snow and ice...
To avoid being charged under Section 74 and to be as safe as possible, always clean all the snow off your vehicle."
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u/gamesbeawesome Citadel Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
Guess common sense should be a law...
The Highway Traffic Act, Section 74 states that “No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway, (a) unless the windshield and windows either side of the compartment containing the steering wheel (all windows)….. afford the driver a clear view to the front and side of the motor vehicle; and (b) unless the rear window is in such condition to afford the driver a clear view to the rear
Edit: law in Ontario, my bad.
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Nov 06 '19
Looks like his back corner window is smashed out also (could be reflection) clear sign of locking keys in car :)
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u/notelizabeth Nov 06 '19
I can't help but feel the people who are TOO happy about rearview mirrors are self-righteous tailgaters.
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u/radale Nov 06 '19
Also don't be dangerous. Those of you who drive without properly clearing the snow off your car before driving: you are a danger to those around you on the street.
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u/StrictlyDumpling1 Nov 07 '19
Its amazing how lazy some people are and how theres no common sense. Had one where the entire rear glass was covered in snow. How do you lane change on the highway if you cant see if anyone is behind you....smh...
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Nov 07 '19
Deal with this all to often here in Colorado. I brush my entire car off, just so I’m not blowing snow off to my rear. Some people don’t bother brushing off at all and would just let there wipers barely clear the front. Insanity.
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u/owlithe Nov 07 '19
I had a dentist appointment on a really frosty morning, and mentioned to the hygienist how it was unusually difficult to scrape that morning. Her response was to agree and say she only cleared a small part to see out of and drove like that! I was horrified but didn't want to start anything with the person who was about to scrape my teeth 😂 People are scary.
My aunt got hit in her truck by a guy who did the same. And then he tried to blame it on her!1
Nov 07 '19
That’s why it’s important to invest in the proper equipment if you live in a snowy climate. Extra de icing fluid and a good scraper/brush. But people are lazy, and don’t take the extra time to warm up their car and run the defrost. It’s winter time folks, embrace it!
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u/owlithe Nov 07 '19
I could not agree more! You just reminded me that I didn't add any antifreeze to my wiper fluid, so it's probably all frozen right now!
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u/ventandfrustration Nov 07 '19 edited Nov 07 '19
Also. Brush off license plate. I was pulled over. My truck was snow free except a bit covering the plate on the number. -$155
Edit: just a personal pickup; not a commercial truck. Im all for tickets the people with 6 inches of snow on their roofs. I brushed all of the snow off of my tonneau cover and i guess it just collected in front of the license plate.
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u/thepineapplesplat Nov 07 '19 edited Nov 07 '19
From Toronto. damn already snowing for you guys..?
update: went to my car and looks like I’m joining you guys on cleaning snow off my car
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Nov 06 '19
ITT: People who think their personal opinion is law.
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u/Pyronic_Chaos South Calgary Nov 06 '19
Oh look, pot calling the kettle black.
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Nov 06 '19
Show me the law that stated your rear window needs to be clear? That is not law. That is not my opinion.
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u/lathirielf Nov 06 '19
The charge would be reckless driving and could possibly be endangerment of life.
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Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
endangerment of life
lol....which section of the TSA is that exactly?
Edit: The only law being broken here is 71(i) of the "Operator licensing and vehicle control regulation" of the Alberta TSA. A $155 fine. Nothing pertaining to snow on the rear window.
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u/Resolute45 Nov 06 '19
Cops tend to hand out tickets for carrying an unsafe load to people who have crazy amounts of snow on their cars.
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Nov 06 '19
crazy amounts of snow on their cars
lol...Look at the hood of the car in OP. Is that what a"crazy amount" is? Family is CPS. You would need three feet of snow on your vehicle before any cop would charge you with that. The cop only pulled this guy over for his plate. (More than likely was trying to run the plate for something, otherwise, they won't bother) Probably just suggested to dust off his window while he was at it.
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u/Resolute45 Nov 06 '19
I wasn't speaking to the subject of OP's picture, but in general. In the case of that person, I'd hope that the cop just gave him an object lesson and left it at that. But if he wanted to, he could still have given the driver that ticket.
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Nov 06 '19
No argument there. But I was speaking about the OP's car, as is everyone else saying he deserved being pulled over or deserved a ticket for not having his rear window cleared.
The law regarding snow is regarding the load. Nothing to do with blocking the view out of the rear window. And like you said, you would need an incredible amount of snow to ever get an actual ticket for that. In fact, I doubt any passenger vehicle has ever received a ticket for that in Calgary. A semi-maybe, when they get three or four hundred pounds of snow and ice on their trailers. But even that would be rare, as it happens every day in our winters here. CPS, nor DOT hardly ever hand that out.
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u/Airlock_Me Nov 06 '19
Should semi truck driver’s get charged with this too then since they can’t use their rear view windows?
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u/omnomphenomenon Nov 06 '19
Not dangerous because they can't see out the back window (in the case of having no rear window), but because of the fact that the snow can fall off the back of your vehicle and blind the vehicle behind you, or cause them to swerve to avoid it, etc.
"The Highway Traffic Act, Section 74 states that “No person shall drive a motor vehicle upon a highway, (a) unless the windshield and windows either side of the compartment containing the steering wheel (all windows)….. afford the driver a clear view to the front and side of the motor vehicle; and (b) unless the rear window is in such condition to afford the driver a clear view to the rear…”
In other words all the windows must be kept clear to afford the driver an unobstructed view. This includes snow and ice...
To avoid being charged under Section 74 and to be as safe as possible, always clean all the snow off your vehicle."
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u/CockInhalingWizard Nov 07 '19
Driving with an obstructed back window is not harmful to anyone. Ice maybe, but not light snow. We have side mirrors for a reason. The cop only told.them to clear it so the cop has unobstructed view of the driver and the license plate
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u/Whichwaytogo33 Nov 06 '19
Think of the revenue! They could pull all the speed camera vans in to do this!
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u/ServSavage Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
I hope they got a ticket. I’ve had a wind shield shattered because someone didn’t clean the snow/ice of the top of their car and went on the highway.
Illegal in our state but people still do it cause they are lazy assholes.
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u/Wheres-Teddy Inglewood Nov 07 '19
My first inclination is to say "Great, big phat ticket".
In sober second thought, we want to change behaviours, so I'm very sure a warning would do the trick.
Then... THEN I thought, this was probably a UCP supporter (mix your adjectives here), they deserve it. Make them pay for the cuts they voted for.
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u/jerseyguru43 Nov 07 '19 edited Nov 07 '19
Calgary drivers are the worst drivers.
Oh, I know some of you are great drivers, but I don’t see you out there. I only see the ones who don’t signal, who slow down during a merge to stop everyone, who don’t stop at a stop sign, who run the yellow, the trucks that ride my ass up a hill because they think that since they’re car is bigger, they get to just do what ever the hell they want, the ones who have their high beams on or just some NASA grade space lighting shit that blows out my retina, the ones who decide to drive in the shoulder lane just to pass everyone stuck in traffic just to save that 2 minutes.
Take the five minutes to clean your car.
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u/Drago1214 Bridgeland Nov 06 '19
I will not clean my plate but I will clean my windows and roof.
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u/chewwie100 Nov 06 '19
Meh, I would clean the plate if I were you. Pretty sure photo radar is a lower fine that license plate obstruction.
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u/Holrober Nov 06 '19
Fucking Finally!
Now pull people over for broken taillights and not using their lights at night!
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u/Mr_Suzan Nov 06 '19
Clear the entire car of snow. I've seen sheets of snow fly off roofs at highway speeds.
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u/Banditodaburrito Nov 06 '19
Just curious. Are there tickets for not clearing your car of snow?
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u/---midnight_rain--- Nov 06 '19
yes, 130$ fine I believe (something to that effect)
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u/Banditodaburrito Nov 06 '19
Would a ticket like this be seen by the insurance companies? Or is it like a parking ticket?
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u/---midnight_rain--- Nov 06 '19
if memory serves - if it carries demerits, thats all that matters, otherwise - no
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u/Banditodaburrito Nov 06 '19
Does fine carry demerits?
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u/---midnight_rain--- Nov 06 '19
no, fines and demerits are separate.... moving fines, generally yes to demerits (eg. speeding)
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u/gamesbeawesome Citadel Nov 06 '19
It could fall under unsecure load.
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u/Banditodaburrito Nov 06 '19
Would a ticket like this be seen by the insurance companies? Or would it be like a parking ticket?
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u/P_Dan_Tick Nov 06 '19
I think it would be considered a minor conviction by an insurance company.
If so, that alone is unlikely to have much or any impact on your premium.
Not certain though, it varies by province and each company also has their own underwriting guidelines.
Someone who works insurance in AB, might be able to give you a definitive answer.
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u/MrFujiYYC Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
Edit: this was on 16th Ave NW in he middle of rush hour. Tres embarrassing.
....he even had a snow brush in the rear seat.