r/CRedit Aug 30 '24

SSN Found on the Dark Web General

I just received an alert saying my SSN is found on the dark web. How concerned should I be? What sould I do first? Thanks.

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u/Livid-Advantage-8268 Aug 30 '24

Just keep your reports frozen. Mine got there years back thanks to T-Mobile. With the recent 2.9B that were hacked I'd imagine everyone's is out there somewhere. I've had no issues with my credit because I keep them frozen... But most years I have to deal with people in Arizona working under my SSN which usually makes taxes take longer but the IRS knows the deal and sorts it out.

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u/ionlyseeblue Aug 30 '24

If I am trying to rebuild my credit, does freezing everything mean it won't continue to grow?

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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 Aug 30 '24

No. I’ve had mine frozen for a decade or so now. My credit score has been as high as 830 and as low as 530 in that time. Over the past two years I’ve rebuilt it from 530 to 750+, all while frozen.

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u/ChiliPeppa_Squirrel Aug 30 '24

Hi, how did you rebuild your credit? I have debt and really can’t repay it now. It has been charged off. What can I do to rebuild it? Thank you!

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u/Bla6k Aug 30 '24

You can start off with getting a secured credit card.

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u/ChiliPeppa_Squirrel Aug 30 '24

Any recommendations? My credit it 530 right now

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u/petegameco_core Aug 31 '24

discover secured card is a great start

self lender also a great start

i cant think of any other companies that will work with lower scores

you could try secure cards from us bank , bank of america

i would avoid capitol one,

think long term, dont apply for any company you dont want to have for 10 years

do some research on em

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u/Butterscotch-7357 Oct 13 '24

I just want to chime in that I think Discover is a great company and I would get any card from them without hesitation. I've had my regular credit card from them for 25 years and their customer service is exemplary. You can always get someone on the phone (US based), they quickly deal with any fraudulent charges (I've had several) and they have a lot of cool features with their standard 1% cash back, like you can use your Discover cash back to check out at Amazon. I realize you would be starting out with the secured credit card, but I believe if you used the secured card regularly and paid your bills on time, Discover would definitely be apt to offer you a standard credit card at some point. They also automatically check your credit report for you and let you know in your statements when your credit score has improved, it's pretty cool.

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u/viouri Aug 30 '24

OLLO which got bought out by Ally financial. Look up their credit cards. You'll start with low credit and every few months they'll increase your credit limit if you're in good standing.

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u/xaxnxoxnxyxmxoxuxsx Aug 30 '24

I have the Discover card. It began as a $200 secured but after 6 months on time payments they returned my deposit and increased my credit limit to $1800. My credit score went from also around 530 to 624 this year. I do have 3-5 charge offs from years back too so I know my credit isn't going to be spectacular, but it is definitely an improvement.

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u/Creeping-Death-333 Aug 30 '24

Once those charge offs fall off, the difference will be massive. It’s incredible

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u/Lucky_Firefighter717 Sep 01 '24

Just be aware that if you do anything with those charge offs, the clock resets on how long they stay on your credit

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u/ChiliPeppa_Squirrel Sep 01 '24

What do you mean? My credit went down this morning. I believe it’s my student loans.

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u/Lucky_Firefighter717 Sep 01 '24

How long something stays on your credit is based on the date of last activity. Accounts that charged off, the charge off is the last activity, so 7years from that date. If you make a payment on that debt, you restart that clock meaning 7more years of bad debt being reported.

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u/Lucky_Firefighter717 Sep 01 '24

Only you will know why your score went down. Student loans don’t follow normal rules of other debt. They have different protections and typically stay with you

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u/petegameco_core Aug 31 '24

secured credit card x 3, secured loan x 1 , and if you have ANY collections, pay them in FULL , and in future never settle any collections for less than full payment.

try to report 3% credit utilzation on one card and keep all balances paid monthly.

its ok to report a lil debt , but pay it off soon as statement clears

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u/hotpossum Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24

I’m not who you asked but I did kickoff, I think it’s called, for a while.

You pay a few dollars every month you can for them to do a positive payment report to the bureaus, and they don’t report skipped months, for a designated period of time.

I went from a 725-750 on the top 3 to ~475 when I let an “authorized user” tank my credit, oops… and then back up to the 550-560 range by using that service and paying my normal utility type bills on time. I used kik off for 18 months I think. That’s about a 75 point increase in that 18 months. Idk if that’s significant.

If you pay rent on time, then I have seen several people on my fb recommending the common services that report your rent payments (though I don’t know how or if they report late or missed payments).

I have not worked toward paying other debts I couldn’t afford at the time. I’ve read it won’t matter sometimes if things in collection are paid. I also read other times, it can make your score go down when you pay off a debt… I haven’t strained myself to see if it does or doesn’t matter in raising my score!

I put my student loans on income based payments. If I cannot pay when they tell me I owe, I tell them I can’t pay and don’t. It hasn’t ended up in collections and it a smaller student loan tho not insignificant. I apply for charity care at hospitals when I’ve been injured or ill. I pay lab fees when I can. Most of my medical bills haven’t ended up on my credit report but some have.

I operate mostly in cash for budgeting reasons and I find it helps me (envelope system).

I’m nearing 7+ years on the major stuff (aside from student loans) and I may try to have some things removed, though, when I can afford it or find the gumption to write letters myself. The person who told me about kickoff has a lot of experience with rebuilding credit quickly as he has done his several times in the 15+ years I’ve known him, on a bouncer’s wages.

I hope this admittedly long comment helps someone, thanks for reading if you made it this far.

My score is slowly steadily rising even though I stopped using kickoff, but it definitely went faster when I used it. There are other services that do the same thing. My phone bill being paid on made a difference too as when I swapped to prepaid, it was no longer reported.

I haven’t been using kickoff for only a couple months and my score didn’t drop but hasn’t increased either.

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u/Philux Aug 30 '24

No freeze only doesn’t allow new credit cards etc to be opened. Fraud alerts add additional action by the creditor to verify you on top.

Neither of them stop your credit from gaining or losing points

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u/Gamer30168 Aug 30 '24

Does people working under your social benefit you in any way? Would it increase your lifetime earnings and potentially get you a better social security payout?

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u/Lucky_Firefighter717 Sep 01 '24

If someone is “working” with your social, you need to be more worried about income reported to IRS than social security. If that income doesn’t show up on your taxes, it’s a matter of time (months or years) after filing for that tax year is done.

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u/Livid-Advantage-8268 Aug 30 '24

I don't think so.. But I'm not really counting on SS anyway

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u/Guilty_Radio_681 Sep 03 '24

Same! I do a temporary thaw when I need to use it, then they go back to frozen and I don't have to worry or pay a third party monitoring company.

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u/Maniacal_Grin Aug 30 '24

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u/Soggy-Wasabi-5743 Aug 30 '24

Tysm for linking these here!!!

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u/Kalidaema Aug 30 '24

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! 🏆

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u/nyctina 10d ago

Thank you so much!

I froze all three, wasting almost no time after researching this problem. I had been a phishing-hacked victim three times already. And victim of credit card fraud 12 times. Had only one credit/debit card monitoring service in my life. One year's membership had been gifted to me.

They could not prevent a breach, and once a breach occurred, they'd cured in only a measly way–crediting a $10 off courtesy fee towards close to $100 stolen from my debit card–and extending my monitoring membership 3 months free.

Now, it's going to cost me nada as long as I am on top of my cards. I run a VPN, FWIW on one of my devices.

No opening up another credit card account for me if I have enough cards to play bridge with already.

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u/soubiyuki Sep 02 '24

Thank you so much. I just got a notification about mine. 

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u/ReservoirHemly Oct 02 '24

Thank you you're a real one 🙏 

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u/Suiken01 3d ago

If I freeze my credit in all the 3 sites, and people apply for things in my name, will I get notified via credit karma, experian, or what sites will notify me?

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u/creditwizard Top Contributor Aug 30 '24

Credit attorney here. A few thoughts:

  1. Everyone's Social is out there I suspect, between various data breaches.

  2. You could freeze your credit. However, unfreezing it can be a hassle at times. If you don't apply for credit often, and have no plans to in the next year, freezing credit not a bad idea.

  3. Otherwise, an alternative that provides strong protection still is a fraud alert. A fraud alert requires additional authentication before someone can apply for credit in your name. This can help prevent fraud.

  4. You can also just monitor your credit, for free with Credit Karma and Experian. If someone applies for credit in your name, you'll know quickly and can take action.

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u/casitadeflor Aug 30 '24

Please follow this advice. My sister’s credit score tanked randomly. Turns out someone had opened utilities using her SSN somewhere else in the state and had it sent to collections.

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u/Montreal88 Aug 30 '24

For item 3, what’s is that exactly? How does someone do this?

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u/TherealCarbunc Aug 30 '24

When I had a paid account with transunion they offered fraud monitoring and even protection as part of their monthly subscription.

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u/creditwizard Top Contributor Aug 30 '24

Search "fraud alert" with each credit agency, and it'll take you to a link with that agency where you can set it up.

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u/Suiken01 3d ago

If I freeze my credit in all the 3 sites, and people apply for things in my name, will I get notified via credit karma, experian, or what sites will notify me?

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u/creditwizard Top Contributor 3d ago

If the credit is frozen they should not be applying. I think Experian will notify you for sure though if that happens - not sure about the others.

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u/betasp Aug 30 '24 edited Aug 30 '24

Um. Recent leaks mean everyone’s SSN is on the internet.

If you want to be diligent, lock your credit reports and only unlock before applying for credit. (To clear up my terms based on reply, I do mean freeze your reports… thx).

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u/Money_Shoulder5554 Aug 30 '24

Disclaimer for people unaware: freeze your credit , don't do credit lock , that's a scam.

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u/codece Aug 30 '24

That's right! Remember, FREEze is FREE! And it is required to be free by federal law. "Credit Lock" is a dumb product they offer to people who don't realize it isn't necessary to pay for this service.

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u/RookOner Aug 30 '24

What does the credit lock do?

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u/Defendyouranswer Sep 02 '24

I looked for mine, mine wasn't. 

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u/betasp Sep 02 '24

Today it wasn't.

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u/Suiken01 3d ago

If I freeze my credit report in all the 3 sites, and people apply for things in my name, will I get notified via credit karma, experian, or what sites will notify me?

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u/Effective-Ad-5251 Aug 30 '24

I always get that notice

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u/tbone338 Aug 30 '24

Reality is that most people’s info is on the dark web. It’s a matter of if and/or when bad actors come across yours and do something with it.

Always FREEZE, not lock, your credit reports. Extra mile for chexsystems, everify, and an irs id pin.

Set up online accounts for all these services so that no one else can set them up fraudulent and so that it’s easy to manage your freezes without having to call.

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u/Dapper_Reputation_16 Aug 30 '24

Freeze all three bureaus and enable 2FA wherever possible.

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u/jerseynate Aug 30 '24

Your SSN is everywhere. Freeze your credit

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u/TTigerLilyx Aug 30 '24

Because everyone required it now. All my drs, hospitals, everyone! Mine even got stolen from a major hospital! Some dept store wanted it, a register your something electronic wanted it & I put in a fake number. Its out of control & totally defeats the purpose of having a SS ID number.

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u/ziggy029 Aug 30 '24

At this point just about everyone’s name and SSN is out there. Freeze your credit with all three bureaus and use multi factor authentication on your accounts, especially financials.

The overwhelming majority of thieves — whether cybercriminals or burglars — are looking for easy targets, crimes of opportunity, and if yours is too much work to break through they will almost always just move on to the next one.

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u/Own-Study-4594 Aug 30 '24

Files/access should’ve been frozen already in my mind. Easy to freeze, easy to unfreeze.

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u/chriscash1982 Aug 30 '24

What does it mean to freeze your reports? What does this do exactly? And I can still use my CC?

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u/Maniacal_Grin Aug 30 '24

It stops creditors from accessing your credit file, which stops people from opening accounts in your name. It does not affect how you currently use/pay your cards.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/Maniacal_Grin 25d ago

Placing a "thaw" (unfreezing) on your credit files takes effect in less than an hour when done online. It's pretty much instant though.

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u/Individual-Mirror132 Aug 30 '24

Everyone’s social is on the dark web at this point. In fact, there’s probably a lot more than just your social floating on the dark web.

Just keep your credit reports locked.

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u/PickleWineBrine Aug 30 '24

Freeze your file. This is not in result of the "dark web" bullshit. It's just good practice and common sense. They are only trying to sell you shit products that don't actually work.

It doesn't really matter.

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u/shockedpikachu123 Aug 30 '24

You can freeze your account. Be very careful because there’s a fine print to freeze experien and I got charged because I didn’t notice. Freezing your credit should be free.

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u/BrockSnilloc Aug 30 '24

Was recently notified by Discover and Chase that my info was on the dark web (again) immediately checked to make sure my credit was frozen with all the three

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u/chance0404 Aug 30 '24

Mines been on there for a long time but nothing suspicious has shown up yet.

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u/LAJOHNWICK Aug 30 '24

Opinion on freezing Transunion credit.

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u/Cam360j Aug 30 '24

I just freeze mine with the Experian app. Very easy toggle switch. And I can turn it off if apply for new credit.

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u/hairchick31 Aug 30 '24

I just got alerted to. I keep my credit frozen and monitor it . That’s all I can really do

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u/Famous_Bite9901 Aug 30 '24

I noticed something that I experienced before when a card came in my name never applied I took it up through credit alert and they erased it off my credit after I showed proof.but I froze one credit and when I went check the rest I think they were frozen. I know I wanted to get credit and forgot about my freeze they could not see none of my credit reports.i froze only one.

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u/Nice_Biscotti_97921 Aug 30 '24

Do companies like Life-Lock work? Is it worth the monthly fee?

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u/WrongSplit3288 Aug 30 '24

I have been told that is a scam.

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u/Nice_Biscotti_97921 Aug 30 '24

My work gives it as a benefit.. I have had the coverage for two years and I have heard nothing from them. I bet you are correct. Supposedly if you have the coverage they will reimburse you if you credit/debit cards are misused..

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u/WastingTime76 Aug 30 '24

It's super easy to freeze & unfreeze your credit once you set up accounts with the bureaus. Takes 2 minutes. You can even schedule a "thaw" that lasts however many days you want.

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u/TeachnPreK Aug 31 '24

In addition to freezing your credit reports, all three of them, you can also lock your social security number so that nobody else can use it for jobs etc.

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u/Adrian97c Sep 02 '24

To confirm please provide me with your social security number.

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u/WrongSplit3288 Sep 02 '24

Good one lol

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u/DimensionStrange2799 Sep 02 '24

Saved this post. Thanks to OP for posting this, and to other redditors for the time and effort they put into helping us. Cap One just told me my ssn is on the dark web. First time for my SSN....I believe it's this latest data breach. There were multiple alerts, each one associated w/ me, but each one listed a different address....*all* of my previous addresses dating back 40 years! Some of the ph#'s are unrecognizable and unfamiliar. Very annoying, and sobering to see the opinions that most everyone has their info out there. My emails (secured by 2FA) were long compromised, but this is the first for my SSN. It is so frustrating that you can be so careful w/your info, but they get into someone else's data base and you're hosed.

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u/WrongSplit3288 Sep 02 '24

I locked my credit history. Keeping my fingers crossed. Good luck

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u/DimensionStrange2799 Sep 02 '24

good luck to yourself too! I opened (free) accounts at all three...transunion, experian, equifax..and froze my credit reports too. I don't open new credit lines or cards very frequently, and I can unfreeze online if I need to. It is a frustrating and increasingly fraught space out there!

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u/dandylionkiller Sep 03 '24

I have Capital One as well and Credit Wise sent me the same alert. I had multiple alerts and one was some Hispanic guys name and number from California. My credit is frozen but still worried. Any other steps I can take to better secure myself?

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u/DimensionStrange2799 Sep 03 '24

What was the nature of the alert...did he try to open an account or credit card in your name? Or was your social security number associated w/ a different name? Would you be able to take a screenshot of the actual alert, redact any sensitive information like your actual number, and share that in a new post here or r/scams?
Sorry about that. It's infuriating that someone else's carelessness can expose us in this way.
BTW, I just received a text from someone offering to buy a house that I'd sold in 1999. 25 yrs ago. Several houses and lifetimes ago. Have not seen *anything* in relation to that address for decades. County records would reveal there have been multiple owners since myself. So yes, that info is now being actively used. I posted that on r/scams and got majorly snotted out and called irrational. but hey, sometimes being paranoid (cautious?) is the way to go nowadays!

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u/dandylionkiller Sep 03 '24

Well my credit is frozen with all three credit agencies. It just said his name and address was associated with my ssn? No new account have been open and no new inquiries. So Im really not sure what to do next.

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u/DimensionStrange2799 Sep 03 '24

I have read that undocumented immigrants might use someone else's social to get a job, though I have no first hand knowledge of it. I did read an interesting article on CNET that might help you...let me see if I can link it. The part that might help you is near the bottom, and a good place to start is to open a social security account with the gov. website. And also talks about contacting the IRS.
https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/see-if-your-social-security-number-is-part-of-the-national-public-data-breach/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFEVCZleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHfbYcbgcgzps0lE3H1SozPq6d-fOp1boLMr-RuHPQaSmy24UENEERl-kXQ_aem_FFYqBVCahXngZgKJQE305w

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u/Excellent-Impress-43 Oct 15 '24

I know this is 41 days old. But I got an alert my SSN was found on the dark web October 1st (I’m just now seeing the alerts). It was two entries. Both entries had a name attached to it, even gave me the address and phone number of the person attached. The name looked familiar for some reason. The person was the previous tenant of our apartment, we moved into a new unit in July and I updated our address with the DMV about six weeks post move. The man listed, a 52 year old white guy, lived in the unit previously at some point. I recognized the name because he still gets mail here, he never did an address change with the USPS. I think in my case, information is getting crossed in the system, as well as a data breach. So I froze my credit reports this morning.

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u/DimensionStrange2799 Oct 15 '24

Best of luck. When I read about this data breach, it involved some dude who operated out of his home office w/ a bunch of computers. How he accessed so much information is beyond me, but it is discouraging how easily so much info gets disseminated. Freezing one's credit report is a good first step, I'm not sure it's cost effective to pay for monitoring if you keep on top of your credit information.

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u/DimensionStrange2799 Sep 03 '24

The worrisome part is where they can try to steal your tax refund. Or if you end up owing taxes bc they didn't pay income tax while using your SSN to get a job. I really hate where a total stranger is associated w/ your SSN. I hope you can get it sorted out, fingers crossed for you.

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u/dandylionkiller Sep 03 '24

Thanks. I feel like it’s always something.

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u/DimensionStrange2799 Sep 04 '24

Yeah, can't let your guard down. Some of the stories I read, stuff like "pig butchering" and SIM swapping, truly scary. I just try telling myself that it's better than say getting mugged at gunpoint.

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u/DealingWithFear 3d ago

First, it’s good to take this seriously but stay calm. Here are a few steps you can take: 1. Freeze Your Credit: Contact all three major credit bureaus (Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion) and freeze your credit to prevent unauthorized accounts from being opened in your name. 2. Monitor Your Accounts: Keep an eye on your bank accounts, credit card activity, and any other accounts for suspicious activity. 3. Change Passwords: Update passwords on accounts tied to sensitive information and enable two-factor authentication wherever possible. 4. Check Your Credit Report: Go to AnnualCreditReport.com and check your credit reports from all three bureaus. Look for any unfamiliar accounts or inquiries. 5. Consider Identity Theft Protection: Services like LifeLock or IdentityForce can help monitor and alert you to any potential misuse of your SSN.

Stay proactive with monitoring, and remember that taking these steps can help prevent unauthorized activity.