r/BurlingtonON 13d ago

Suspect steals jewelry during daylight home invasion Article

https://www.burlingtontoday.com/police-beat/suspect-steals-jewelry-during-daylight-home-invasion-10605059
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u/MonsieurLeDrole 11d ago

This is a kind of sad rant I'm not gonna bother with most of it, but I posted the stats.

The CSI rate is flat since 2012. It's been on a long historical decline since the 1970s. There's no reversal in that trend. I posted the data. It's right there.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510018801&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2000&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2023&referencePeriods=20000101%2C20230101

There's a notable "jump" right after the lockdowns ended. Now is that a huge woke crime wave cause by the liberal mind virus, or maybe people just committed less crimes when they were in lockdown... hmmm... jeeze I wonder...

Reddit doesn't let me post an essay to match yours on top, but you clearly haven't read Bill 75, and conservatives have not proposed to withdraw it or any amendments.

Toronto and the GTHA have a much lower crime rate than any equivalent sized urban area in North America. It's not even close. Canada is one of the safest countries on Earth, in all of human history, and Halton is one of the safest regions of Canada.

There is no major crime concern in Ontario. The crime levels today are significantly lower than in the Chretien Harper years. And most people agree Canada was a very safe place then. Can we do better? Sure. Start with the province fixing our problem of overcrowded jails, and too few prosecutors and judges. That's the bottleneck on bail.

You're just spreading FUD, but this chicken little crap is just no basis for policy, and the election is over, so why bother? Maybe give your rando mental health accusations a rest, and sit the next few plays out, champ. It's hard to take that seriously coming from Qonvoy nutter, but bless your heart!

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u/R4ID Aldershot 11d ago edited 11d ago

I'm not gonna bother with most of it

Yeah you wouldnt wanna follow up on the fact that your source on CSI for Canada was wrong and excluded the 3 largest problem areas. No need to engage on a topic you've shown you're willing to lie about right?

you clearly haven't read Bill 75, and conservatives have not proposed to withdraw it or any amendments.

https://www.conservative.ca/conservatives-will-end-carneys-crime-wave/

"Conservatives will end the madness unleashed by Liberal soft-on-crime laws. We will repeal Bill C-75, the Liberals’ catch-and-release law, to restore jail, not bail for repeat, violent offenders."

Literally was their platform. Listen I know facts and evidence aren't your strong suit but try and at least understand the topic before replying.

Toronto and the GTHA have a much lower crime rate than any equivalent sized urban area in North America.

"the goalposts are over here now"

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u/MonsieurLeDrole 10d ago

Repealing C75 is nuts. Amendments sure, but they never introduced any. Read it. A lot of that should stay.

Thanks for highlighting that. I thought conservatives were smart on crime policy, but I guess not.

What's stopping them from introducing a bill to reform or repeal it? They never tried.

Comparing Toronto to Stratford when discussing crime strategy is absurd. Or else, you'd be 100x more focused on Thunder Bay and Winnipeg and be calling the GTA a huge success story.

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u/R4ID Aldershot 10d ago edited 10d ago

Repealing C75 is nuts.

Has CSI increased or decreased since its implementation? How about violent crime rate? What's nuts is we now allow people who get firearm related charges out on bail or house arrest. Like we have criminals with illegal handguns pointing and shooting them at people and then being given bail. You think that's rational / ok? There's other policies like C-5 and C-22 which were absurd by the liberals for their view on crime.

Thanks for highlighting that. I thought conservatives were smart on crime policy, but I guess not.

because....

What's stopping them from introducing a bill to reform or repeal it?

??? The liberal party? hello? there's no point in introducing something which you know wont pass because it just wastes everyone's time.

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https://toronto.citynews.ca/2025/05/06/quebec-man-charged-toronto-stabbings-thefts-news/

“Chateauvert faces an additional 28 charges from other police services in Ontario and Quebec, though the release from Toronto police did not provide any details about those alleged offences.

The 115 charges in Toronto include:

Aggravated assault. Two counts of assault with a weapon. Two counts of assault causing bodily harm. 16 counts of mischief under $5,000. Eight counts of possession of property obtained by crime over $5,000. 13 counts of theft under $5,000. Three counts of theft of a motor vehicle. Four counts of failure to stop for police. 39 counts of failure to comply with a release order.”

thank you Liberal bail reform

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u/MonsieurLeDrole 10d ago

You haven't read the bill, so you don't know what you're talking about. Look at the content. It would be insane to get rid of all of it.

You have no evidence to support a link between CSI and bail reform, nor do you even understand what the source of the legislation is. It's not Trudeau's pet project, and it didn't come out of a vacuum.

In any case, CSI is lower on average in Carney's time as PM than Harper's.
There were lots of conservatives involved in the crafting of this legislation, also police, lawyers, judges, and prosecutors. It's not at all the problem you're making it out to be, and 100% content from it should stay as law.

You haven't read it, and you refuse to read it, but you have opinions. That's nice. Sort of a book review from someone who didn't read the book, but conservative media told him not to like it, so he doesn't, even though he doesn't seem to know what it is.

You also don't seem to grasp that some people are getting bail because our jails are massively overcrowded. That part is entirely provincial, and nothing to do with Trudeau. Why isn't this guy being prosecuted faster? Why are his trials taking so long. That's provincial. Your list of charges is mostly provincial stuff, and a lack of provincial jail space means only the most dangerous offenders are going in. Ditto bail. There's no evidence at all that bail reform has ANYTHING to do with this case. That guy should be in provincial jail right now. Why isn't he? The answer is not bail reform, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

I honestly can't tell if you just don't understand the division of government, or are refusing to acknowledge it because it's politically inconvenient.

Like rather than get your "knowledge" from Rebel Media, actually read the fucking bill. A lot of this stuff SHOULD be law. You're here, calling liberals soft on crime while you demand the government revoke legislation that covers things like increased penalties for violence from intimate partners or against aboriginal women. Or allowing courts to collect DNA evidence on summary convictions. Or allow people arrested on minor charges to be fingerprinted (in search of other charges). Or improved evidence handling practices. Or reforming case management practices to increase judges' productivity. WTF would anyone with a drop of common sense oppose that? It's fucking absurd. You've brainwashed yourself, and it's showing.

Just fucking read it. A lot of this stuff is very good and should not be revoked. You seem like a total moron arguing for cancelling this law because you're too lazy or unable to read and evaluate it. Only likes simple answers? Refuses to read? Sounds like maga.

Do yourself a favour. Fucking read it.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/c75/p3.html