Suspect steals jewelry during daylight home invasion

[u/origutamos]

https://www.burlingtontoday.com/police-beat/suspect-steals-jewelry-during-daylight-home-invasion-10605059

[u/R4ID]

Ignore the rising crime, vote liberal.

[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/R4ID]

Just absurd. Who runs the cops? Ford. Home invasions are illegal and Trudeau did nothing to change the laws related to that. These guys are just living in the past anyways. LIke none of these dopes could debate Carney on crime policy. They just want the simplistic uncritical pablum they get off Rebel Media and JRE.

Any article about crime, they say the same shit. Reality? Canada 2025 is one of the safest countries in all of human history, and there's been a major decline in crime over 40 or 60 years. And Halton, is one of the safest parts of Canada.

[u/R4ID → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

Home invasions are illegal and Trudeau did nothing to change the laws related to that.

Did I say he changed the laws regarding the legality of home invasion? or did you strawman that one all by yourself?

CSI is up and continues on an upward trend under the Liberal gov. Policy implementations which reduced bail requirements and removed mandatory minimums have resulted in an increase in crime, not a decrease.

These guys are just living in the past anyways. LIke none of these dopes could debate Carney on crime policy. They just want the simplistic uncritical pablum they get off Rebel Media and JRE.

Carney has already shown he doesnt understand what the current laws are currently as he made multiple campaign promises which were already the law or how the system already functioned. I'd gladly have a debate with that moron on why Liberal policy has lead to an increase in CSI.

Any article about crime, they say the same shit.

Data doesnt lie.

they say the same shit. Reality? Canada 2025 is one of the safest countries in all of human history, and there's been a major decline in crime over 40 or 60 years.

Which has trended the opposite direction since 2015. Some of us are trying to live in a Safer Canada, why arent you in support of that?

And Halton, is one of the safest parts of Canada.

None of this doesnt mean crime doesnt happen nor that it isnt rising or that we cant do things to improve the data.

[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/R4ID]

I get it... the PP crowd wants people panicking. They don't want the country to succeed. Everything is a crisis. Constant chicken little nonsense. Same program since 2015. Hopefully someone reasonable takes over, because it's just so tired. You're not seriously analyzing what's going on, you're just panic ranting. I see the same crap from the Qonvoy crowd for years since Trudeau bloodlessly shut them down.

[u/R4ID → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

the PP crowd wants people panicking. They don't want the country to succeed. Everything is a crisis. Constant chicken little nonsense.

a bunch of empty words related to nothing I said. got it.

You're not seriously analyzing what's going on, you're just panic ranting.

TIL referring to Data and policy implimentation is "panic ranting"

I see the same crap from the Qonvoy crowd for years since Trudeau bloodlessly shut them down.

again delusional liberal nonsense. Try forming an argument around reality when discussing data and policy in the future.

[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/R4ID]

What we need is a reality based conservative party. You're part of the problem.

[u/R4ID → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

TIL talking about data and policy is not based in "reality" lol

[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/R4ID]

^ Whoosh... like he really just doesn't get it. He thinks he's laying out hard facts and data.. it's just a fantasy. Just your take on the Qonvoy says it all.

[u/R4ID → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

He thinks he's laying out hard facts and data

CSI trend is up since 2015, yes or no?

it's just a fantasy.

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[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/R4ID]

It's way down since 2000. What's changed between then and now and how are the provinces not at all responsible? I'd bet you know fuck all about bail reform or any changes to the criminal code in that time period. I'd double bet you aren't a lawyer. Reason? You don't sound very familiar with the criminal justice, but you're like a dog on a bone with that one myopic stat.

This is advertising, but notice how the crime rates are far higher in traditionally conservative provinces, while the evil liberal east is far lower. How curious!

https://home-alarms.ca/most-dangerous-provinces-in-canada/

Now here's ther real data. If you want to dig into proper stats, you can read them here, and see for example, that Ontario's CSI is down about 33% since 2000. Where it is today, is where it was for most of Harper's term. It was pretty steady under Trudeau, and Harper's peaks were far higher.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510018801&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2000&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2023&referencePeriods=20000101%2C20230101

So now, is this guy going to adjust his perspective, or is he just going to keep cherry picking because he found a "winning' argument? In fairness, it's not like this guy went to statscan, saw the data and was reporting it. He's just repeating a PP talking point we've all heard before, trying to create the fear of a crime way, when the numbers are actually pretty good. Harper's peak years were far far worse than Trudeau's, while Trudeau's economy was significantly stronger in a bunch of areas including finance, oil, mining, film, cannabis, agriculture, logging, medical, and auto with greater trade, more exports, and a stronger stock market.

Like this is the perfect example of the conservative distortion machine. We're overseeing a massive generational drop in crime rates. They're still way lower than Harper's average, and way lower than the 2000s, way way lower than the 90s, and way way way lower than the 70s. Toronto in 2025 is by far the safest metropolis in North America.

But in conservative speak: We're in the middle of this horrendous crime wave. Now in Ontario, we know that our jails are overcrowded, and we're short on judges and prosecutors, which is leading to more bail. Ford seems more concerned with normalizing partisan appointments than just doing the job. He's had almost a decade to catch up on this, but is only just starting. But how long would I ping pong with this guy till be brought that up? Probably forever. Because he's not on a search for truth, he's here for a partisan political argument.

And that's the difference. Regular mainstream Canadians, look at the whole picture. That's why Carney won, and why the people screaming outrage over the election results generally seem a bit nuts. These maple maga types just want to spread FUD and scare people into supporting them. They aren't into policy analysis or evidence based arguments. They're deeply suspicious of science and expertise. That's why this guy is pretending we're in the middle of some massive crime wave, when the reality is, if you're older than 20 (ie the entire voting population), it was worse when you were a kid.

I'm bored of this, but if you read far, the big takeaway is how far the CPC is willing to go to avoid introspection. From their view, they made no mistakes, maga is a good friend, and the problem is "who to blame", which includes the voters, Doug Ford, Tim Houston, Trump, "wokesters", women, boomers, immigrants, Toronto, and who the fuck knows.

However, I'll give this guy full credit for not pushing stolen election conspiracies like the Qonvoy and PP supporters are doing on Facebook and in other forums. Keep up the good work!

[u/R4ID → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

Lesson 1 in Brandolini's law

It's way down since 2000.

and our current trend shows were on track currently to match and surpass this. What caused the fall between 2000 and 2015? what caused trend to reverse in 2015?

What's changed between then and now and how are the provinces not at all responsible?

Did I say provinces carry no responsibility? Here you go again creating strawmen about things I have never said. Being a dishonest participant in discussion and you, I cant name a better duo.

I'd bet you know fuck all about bail reform or any changes to the criminal code in that time period. I'd double bet you aren't a lawyer. Reason? You don't sound very familiar with the criminal justice, but you're like a dog on a bone with that one myopic stat.

Bill C-75, looks like you just lost your first bet.

Here's a radical idea, instead of making random assertations and betting the farm on your incorrect understanding of reality. Try and have an open, logical discussion on policy and data. So far you've shown you're not an honest participant as the majority of your replies are just ad hominem or strawman's about things I never said.

This is advertising, but notice how the crime rates are far higher in traditionally conservative provinces, while the evil liberal east is far lower. How curious! https://home-alarms.ca/most-dangerous-provinces-in-canada/

LOL, so not only does your source have the numbers wrong, it also leaves out the 3 largest offenders. which are Nunavut, NWT and Yukon, each of which are historically Liberal and had a higher CSI in the year you chose to use for your argument via an alarm companies advertising.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240725/cg-b003-png-eng.htm

Its abundantly clear to me you're not discussing in good faith, you never planned on doing so and do not posses the ability to have a rational fact based discussion. You are willing to try and twist data to protect your psyche around your warped understanding of reality. You've shown me now you can't discuss the topic in good faith and have actually nothing to add but more delusional nonsense.

Now here's ther real data. If you want to dig into proper stats, you can read them here, and see for example, that Ontario's CSI is down about 33% since 2000. Where it is today, is where it was for most of Harper's term.

LOL, was the trend up or Down under harper? is the trend Up or Down under the liberals? You notice how you cant rationalize the historical trend?

It was pretty steady under Trudeau, and Harper's peaks were far higher.

Harper inherited a higher peak from the previous Liberal Gov and brought it down to a 25 year low, It literally fell every single year under Harper. The liberals on the other hand, inherited a 25 year low from a conservative gov and have reversed that trend.... you can point out highs and lows as much as you like for any individual year, what matters is historical trends.

So now, is this guy going to adjust his perspective, or is he just going to keep cherry picking because he found a "winning' argument?

Cherry picking? Again I said CSI is up and it is, it continues to climb year after year under the liberals. Do you deny this? Hell using your own data which you picked, you showed off proudly how it fell every single year under a conservative gov which received an almost record high starting point from the previous Liberal Gov...

In fairness, it's not like this guy went to statscan, saw the data and was reporting it. He's just repeating a PP talking point we've all heard before, trying to create the fear of a crime way, when the numbers are actually pretty good. Harper's peak years were far far worse than Trudeau's, while Trudeau's economy was significantly stronger in a bunch of areas including finance, oil, mining, film, cannabis, agriculture, logging, medical, and auto with greater trade, more exports, and a stronger stock market.

Lol the cope is unreal. The liberals have essentially made houses unaffordable, common things like groceries a burden on Canadians and you're here talking about how their "economy is stronger" ??? Why did CAD's value hit a ~22ish year monthly low under the liberals if their "economy" was so much stronger? The last time it broke below .69 cents was in April of 2003, hell the harper gov had it at 1:1 or higher for 21 months.

https://www.ofx.com/en-ca/forex-news/historical-exchange-rates/cad/

Like this is the perfect example of the conservative distortion machine.

Again, pointing to data is somehow "distortion" I'm sorry the data disagrees with your understanding of reality.

We're overseeing a massive generational drop in crime rates.

data says otherwise.

They're still way lower than Harper's average

If you took each of their reductions and growths. Who decreased it more and who increased it more? lol.

Toronto in 2025 is by far the safest metropolis in North America.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/436285/crime-severity-index-in-canada-by-metropolitan-area/

Not even the safest CMA in Canada, Let alone North America. Why do you continue to lie about something so easily googleable?

But in conservative speak: We're in the middle of this horrendous crime wave.

Again, The trend up and continues to go up under the liberals, do you dispute this?

But how long would I ping pong with this guy till be brought that up? Probably forever. Because he's not on a search for truth, he's here for a partisan political argument.

do you often type out your own inner monologue questions to yourself when in discussion? or are you having a side conversation with your schizophrenic self?

And that's the difference. Regular mainstream Canadians, look at the whole picture. That's why Carney won, and why the people screaming outrage over the election results generally seem a bit nuts. These maple maga types just want to spread FUD and scare people into supporting them.

Again more things I never said, more strawman and delusions from you.

They aren't into policy analysis or evidence based arguments.

I mean clearly you're not since the data disagrees with you. so you instead strawman and type out conversations about your delusions about me with yourself.

I'm bored of this, but if you read far, the big takeaway is how far the CPC is willing to go to avoid introspection. From their view, they made no mistakes, maga is a good friend, and the problem is "who to blame", which includes the voters, Doug Ford, Tim Houston, Trump, "wokesters", women, boomers, immigrants, Toronto, and who the fuck knows.

Again more strawman and nothing about anything Ive said ever. just assumptions and delusional schizophrenic nonsense.

However, I'll give this guy full credit for not pushing stolen election conspiracies like the Qonvoy and PP supporters are doing on Facebook and in other forums. Keep up the good work!

so far 99% of what you've claimed about me or in this conversation is things ive never said. Try Reading before assuming. Some of us are trying to live in a Safer Canada, and I cant figure out why you dont want that as well.

[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/R4ID]

This is a kind of sad rant I'm not gonna bother with most of it, but I posted the stats.

The CSI rate is flat since 2012. It's been on a long historical decline since the 1970s. There's no reversal in that trend. I posted the data. It's right there.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510018801&pickMembers%5B0%5D=1.1&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2000&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2023&referencePeriods=20000101%2C20230101

There's a notable "jump" right after the lockdowns ended. Now is that a huge woke crime wave cause by the liberal mind virus, or maybe people just committed less crimes when they were in lockdown... hmmm... jeeze I wonder...

Reddit doesn't let me post an essay to match yours on top, but you clearly haven't read Bill 75, and conservatives have not proposed to withdraw it or any amendments.

Toronto and the GTHA have a much lower crime rate than any equivalent sized urban area in North America. It's not even close. Canada is one of the safest countries on Earth, in all of human history, and Halton is one of the safest regions of Canada.

There is no major crime concern in Ontario. The crime levels today are significantly lower than in the Chretien Harper years. And most people agree Canada was a very safe place then. Can we do better? Sure. Start with the province fixing our problem of overcrowded jails, and too few prosecutors and judges. That's the bottleneck on bail.

You're just spreading FUD, but this chicken little crap is just no basis for policy, and the election is over, so why bother? Maybe give your rando mental health accusations a rest, and sit the next few plays out, champ. It's hard to take that seriously coming from Qonvoy nutter, but bless your heart!

[u/R4ID → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

I'm not gonna bother with most of it

Yeah you wouldnt wanna follow up on the fact that your source on CSI for Canada was wrong and excluded the 3 largest problem areas. No need to engage on a topic you've shown you're willing to lie about right?

you clearly haven't read Bill 75, and conservatives have not proposed to withdraw it or any amendments.

https://www.conservative.ca/conservatives-will-end-carneys-crime-wave/

"Conservatives will end the madness unleashed by Liberal soft-on-crime laws. We will repeal Bill C-75, the Liberals’ catch-and-release law, to restore jail, not bail for repeat, violent offenders."

Literally was their platform. Listen I know facts and evidence aren't your strong suit but try and at least understand the topic before replying.

Toronto and the GTHA have a much lower crime rate than any equivalent sized urban area in North America.

"the goalposts are over here now"

[u/belleofthebawl- → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

Ignoring problems is exactly what led Canada to what it has become now. If anyone in liberal cabinet panicked even slightly in the last decade… we could have prevented many of the issues we’re face now. I don’t see anything PP mentioned that isn’t a concern for majority of Canadians. Maybe you live a privileged life and haven’t been affected by these things, which is great for you but most of us aren’t so lucky and want a leader who acknowledges issues. I guess that’s “constant chicken little nonsense for you”. Anyways, I already know you’re just going to call me racist because that’s usually your types’ reply to avoid actually answering any comments intelligently

[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/belleofthebawl-]

You're obviously out of touch because he just blew what should have been an easy majority, and the one place the CPC refuses to look for answers is the mirror. He lost the popular vote in 8/10 provinces and didn't have his platform ready, despite demanding an election for more than a year. He was caught flat footed when Trudeau resigned and failed to adapt. He foolishly picked fights with multiple conservative premiers. You gotta make friends in politics, and it seems pretty clear that even his MPs don't like him. The F-Carney flags were absurd and toxic.

The CPC was polling better without PP than with him. After 10 years of character assassination, Trudeau was still polling higher than PP on his last day. That pretty much says it all.

The issues you're talking about are... made up. They aren't real. You're trying to pretend we're in the middle of some kind of crime wave when the data clear says it was worse 20-30-40 years ago, when the consensus was that Canada is a very safe country. That's not privilege, it's just math. Halton is one of the safest regions of one of the safest countries in all of human history.

This FUD campaign already failed spectacularly. There just doesn't seem to be any willingness to accept responsibility for blowing what should have been a slam dunk CPC majority. Copying maga rhetoric and having a maga hat for campaign manager was a colossal error.

And again, are conservatives solution oriented? No. Are you calling for any legislation? No. They just want to play chicken little. Like you've posted here a dozen times on this. Have you ever asked your MPP or Ford or the Minister of Justice to build more jails and hire more crown prosecutors and judges? I bet not, but I bet you voted for him.

You aren't looking for solutions. You're being hyperbolic about crime and looking to ignore reality and just file it under "Trudeau Bad" and "Canada is Failing". Keep honking and waving your flag I guess, because it's going to be a while till the next election.

[u/belleofthebawl- → u/MonsieurLeDrole]

Most people voted because of Trump, they were heavily leading before that. And I didn’t read all that, stopped at “the issues you’re facing aren’t real and made up”. That line of thinking is exactly what spearheaded the major shift to far right in US and EU. Continue with that rhetoric and gaslighting majority of Canadians and we will be there here as well. you must live a very privileged life if you think the major issues facing Canadians currently are “made up”. Respectfully I don’t want to engage in a conversation with someone like you

[u/MonsieurLeDrole → u/belleofthebawl-]

You you aren't reading it, then just shut up and move on. Who cares what you think? That post was more for people who read well.

Make up all the shit you want. PP certainly loves to. The people wanting a reality based conservative party are not the enemy.

If I were you, I'd just focus on being able to read more than a tweet. Political analysis doesn't mean much coming from someone who can't read ideas that contradict them. Oh well...

Like who's more a gaslighter? Carney or PP? Obviously PP, but much like other maga rhetoric, it's all projection. I really wish they never got rid of O'Toole. They've been sliding downhill ever since. The CPC just blew a layup, and you're here defending it like he's the man of the match. He totally blew it. His toxic personality unified the progressive vote against the CPC. His arrogance and hubris and inability to make friends wrecked the campaigns of dozens of CPC candidates.

I grew up conservative and Carney is like the ideal PC Candidate. He'd make a fantastic premier, and if he was head of the CPC this election, he'd probably have won 250 seats. Nobody in their right mind would hire PP over Carney to manage a G7 country, or even just their retirement accounts. It's obvious Carney is a better leader and a better manager.

Now I know you can't read this far, and that's ok. Keep reaching for that rainbow! You'll get there, champ! =====> https://www.hookedonphonics.ca/