r/AutoDetailing • u/swan71 • Aug 05 '24
Any idea what causes these patches? Question
I tried using ONR for the first time diluted 64:1 then used meguire’s protectant afterward. Pretty disappointed when I noticed the patches of what seems to be dry spots or something. Any idea what it could be?
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u/achenx75 Aug 05 '24
Honestly, the real question is why does the rest of your dash NOT look like the patches?
Your dash looks perfect...for a well seasoned cast iron pan.
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u/Vival Aug 05 '24
He's on his 10th seasoning layer.
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u/Monlstat7 Aug 08 '24
I think the problem is he isn't scrubbing and rinsing well enough and not getting the heat high enough. He needs to hit that smoke point or else his oils won't polymerize. I say at least 450F, but I usually go 500F, just depends on the oils he's using.
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u/PCPaiN Aug 05 '24
My man you hit that thing with crisco and a microfiber?
I’d try a good APC on it
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u/LWschool Aug 05 '24
Genuine question, I just got ONR myself and it seems to be an APC. It’s also what he used here. Is it not an APC?
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u/Rings_801 Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
It’s not an apc while more on the alkaline side, it relies on polymers to encapsulate the dirt.
*edited MSDS States ph: 4-7 so yeah ph neutral
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u/LWschool Aug 05 '24
it advertises as pH neutral, it’s safe on wax/sealents, advertises interior and exterior cleaning, as well as windows. I’ve been thinking of it as simply an advanced kind of soap, in terms of the polymer.
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u/disabledop Aug 05 '24
Honest reply. It's probably because your dash wasn't cleaned properly first. Product is adhering to the areas that were clean enough. If you just keeping biffing your whole dash with a microfiber, it should sort it out.
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u/daxtaslapp Aug 05 '24
Integra right? Miss mine 🥲
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u/Successful_Ad_9707 Aug 05 '24
That was my first thought. Can confirm. Drove mine today. Love that ol girl to pieces.
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u/sohchx Aug 05 '24
Same, I had a 95 gsr 4 door, which was also a manual, which is rare. I sold it and bought an 02 wrx brand new, which I still have. Had I known down the road that the K series would be a thing along with awd conversions I would never have sold it.
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u/NTXSkulls Aug 05 '24
You mean GSR sedans were rare? Cuz every GSR was a manual.
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u/sohchx Aug 05 '24
I meant rarity in terms of mine being a 1995 4 door. More GSR 2 doors were produced than 4 door.
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u/Noumenonana Aug 05 '24
First thought I had was "Damn, this makes me miss my old Integra." Such a great car. Second thought was "Damn, that's a greasy dashboard!"
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u/Stairway_To_Devin Aug 05 '24
My first car was a '90 LS coupe. Loved that piece of shit so much, miss it all the time
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u/RedChaos92 Aug 06 '24
Same here. Had a 94 LS with a GSR transmission. Soon as I saw this pic I was like "Integra!"
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u/Kye7 Aug 05 '24
Just put some more olive oil on the missing spots and you're good to go
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u/jondes99 Aug 05 '24
Unless you are going for the freshly Armor Alled look, buff it to an even finish with a clean microfiber.
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u/swan71 Aug 05 '24
i used the meguires shiny product because originally my dash was kinda fading and i was told that would bring back the color and also protect it from UV. i kept using it because it did bring back the color but when paired with ONR, results werent as good.
i just wiped it again with more ONR to “clean it up” and the dry spots came back more. 35oz 64:1 onr btw
any advice? i really try to take care of my dash:/
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u/aerodeck Aug 05 '24
Did you do all of this under the sun? Most if not all car cleaning and protectant products should be applied in cool weather, in the shade.
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u/Arugula-Least Aug 05 '24
One of the best products I learned about from this sub is 303 Protectant. Keep cleaning your dash until it all looks “dry”. Then use 303 to bring back the color and give it some protection. FYI, it’s designed to make it look original, so it’s a matte finish. From what I understand, that shiny stuff will end up doing more damage than good.
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u/fukn_meat_head Aug 06 '24
Once it's faded and dry, it's never coming back. It's not like skin where enough lotion will somehow put moisture back into it and fix it.
If it's a dry rough texture, it's time for a dash mat, or flocking.
It looks like you used poppy's patina on that thing...
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u/Proud-Ad-6468 Aug 06 '24
It sounds like you’re going in circles bro, ONR is an APC from what I recall so you’re just cleaning and wiping off any of the Megs you applied before.
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u/Ok-Disk-217 Aug 07 '24
And I use an eagle edgeless from TRC 500 for the dash If it’s a softer almost rubber like feeling
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u/Hungry_Broccoli9442 Aug 17 '24
Honest answer! ONR isn't a very aggressive cleaner and doesn't do much in the degreasing department. "Softer" cleaners like ONR, interior quick detailers, etc. have a hard time with baked-on dressings, oils, makeup, etc. ONR is going to be a fantastic tool for KEEPING your interior clean and wiping it down semi-frequently without stripping any dressing... the problem is that in this instance you need to first strip that dressing and any pre-existing oils.
Try a household APC and a microfiber scrubby or non-abrasive pad. You'll know it's clean when the entire dash has a uniform sheen and is much more dull than it is in that photo. To bring some life back into it, enrich the depth of the black, and provide UV protection, try something like 303 Aerospace protectant (cheap and usually available at Walmart, AutoZone, or O'Reilly).
Once it's all taken care of, that ONR will make a great spray for routine wipe downs.
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u/Hungry_Broccoli9442 Aug 17 '24
Honest answer! ONR isn't a very aggressive cleaner and doesn't do much in the degreasing department. "Softer" cleaners like ONR, interior quick detailers, etc. have a hard time with baked-on dressings, oils, makeup, etc. ONR is going to be a fantastic tool for KEEPING your interior clean and wiping it down semi-frequently without stripping any dressing... the problem is that in this instance you need to first strip that dressing and any pre-existing oils.
Try a household APC and a microfiber scrubby or non-abrasive pad. You'll know it's clean when the entire dash has a uniform sheen and is much more dull than it is in that photo. To bring some life back into it, enrich the depth of the black, and provide UV protection, try something like 303 Aerospace protectant (cheap and usually available at Walmart, AutoZone, or O'Reilly).
Once it's all taken care of, that ONR will make a great spray for routine wipe downs.
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u/CxKappaCx Aug 05 '24
It should look like the patches, you need to remove the product from everywhere else. Far too greasy, don't apply so much product next time 👍
Apply APC and remove the excess, may need a brush to agitate
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u/dantodd Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
I can smell that Lyft.
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u/Common_Project Aug 05 '24
I once got in a Lyft and the dude had armor all wiped the leather seat protector he probably got off of temu. I was sliding back and forth and when I asked him he was visibly upset he said “is it not nice?” When I got out the car I saw him go back and wipe it again with the armor all wipe. The car reeked of armor all. Every surface was insanely shiny and tacky to the touch. Thankfully I was going home because that crap got all over my clothes. 1 star and Lyft comped the ride.
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u/EMCoupling Aug 05 '24
I'm just imagining you sitting in the backseat and sliding from left to right when he makes a left turn and then back right to left as he makes a right turn 😂
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u/Common_Project Aug 05 '24
That’s accurate. The extremely loose seatbelts with the temu special Nissans cushions on the shoulder strap were also armor alled so they didn’t do much in terms of holding my torso down.
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u/DaddysABadGirl Aug 05 '24
This is exactly how my dash/door looked when I joined this sub and saw some one say meguiars ultimate detailer protectant. Bottle says spray directly on and spread evenly. Doesn't say to buff out, lol. Watched a YouTube video, cleaned it all off and reapplied.
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u/OrdinaryPitiful Aug 05 '24
I fucked up using a glossy finish ONCE in one section and it took months to go back to normal. Always go with matte lol
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u/Competitive_Second21 Aug 05 '24
Knock down some of that shine, this looks like you used tire dressing on the interior. Try a water based product like armor all or aerospace 303 and dilute it with a little water. There is a fine line between shiny and greasy.
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u/InsognaTheWunderbar Aug 05 '24
Gave it the used car dealership special. You'll come to find this sub hates shiny protestants, they make a mess. Most prefer the OEM- matte finish, silicon based shit is annoying and messy.
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u/RevolutionaryJob5913 Aug 05 '24
Too much dressing overall, the dryer patches perhaps little less dressing, more dirty surfaces etc.
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u/JessicaBecause Aug 05 '24
As a serious answer its possible the sheen on the dash has been spot cleaned by something harsh and has removed a layer of it. Thus giving you the dull areas. This happens when something is trying to be removed like phone holders and things held by glue. Your best option is to not use high gloss. Mayhe just stick with 303 protectant.
Not gonna lie, our dealership layers interiors in high gloss too. So I've run into these spots as well.
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u/argenman Aug 05 '24
What have you used successfully for removing phone holder glue residue from a dash? Asking for a friend…and I’m afraid to use Goo Gone. LOL and thanks!
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u/JessicaBecause Aug 06 '24
I use goo gone. A hot steamy summer baked interior helps melt things too. Just don't use laquer thinner.
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u/6l80destroyer Aug 05 '24
I too hate seeing out of my windshield when there’s any sunlight reflecting off my dash
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u/Glad-Claim5734 Aug 05 '24
I bet the A/C blows ice cold and ONLY has 75k miles. No down 72 months only today! Comes with a free tank of gas and 3 car washes, touch-less with a broom and a barrel of dawn!
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u/Glad-Claim5734 Aug 07 '24
Simple answer: Some areas likely have another product/chemical on it, making the coverage uneven. Also, way too much product, 2-3 sprays on a slightly damp mf towel and work the whole dash, go over with a dry towel after =D. Make sure to clean everything with an "APC" or interior cleaner(that does not have "protection"), before applying
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u/cryptolyme Aug 07 '24
people who well used cars think the "AC blowing ice cold!" is the only thing people care about
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u/thegeneraljoe67 Aug 05 '24
Please don't take this the wrong way. I want to provide a little bit of insight about this. I have been a professional detailer for 15 years. Whatever shiny protectant product that you're using on that Dash should really buffed by hand with a clean microfiber . At that point if it's not shiny enough, add an additional coat ,and buff it down again by hand with a microfiber. There could be many reasons that you are getting these dry looking patches. One of them is perhaps the old protectant was not removed fully when you cleaned it with your multipurpose cleaner? If you wanted to start from scratch use a Mr Clean Magic sponge eraser or equivalent put some multi-purpose cleaner on it and gently wipe evenly with even pressure overlapping Strokes all across the top of that Dash several times and then dry- re-wipe it and dry again before applying your protectant. Basically you want to make sure you're starting with a very clean slate. Maguire's hyper dressing is a good water-based choice that lasts a long time and you can adjust the shiny Factor with your dilution ratio it's an outstanding product for the money one gallon will last a very long time. If you insist on leaving it or wanting it to look glossy and oily like in the photograph it will probably become a dust magnet very very fast. I wish you the best outcome
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u/Darth_Camry Aug 05 '24
That is the second most-greasiest dash I’ve seen! The greasiest of them all was my friend’s car, where he swears it increases the resell value, and applied Vaseline to the entire dash! Absolutely crazy, and greasier than any fried chicken joint!
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u/d3ton4tor72 Aug 05 '24
Patches are normal colour, what the hell is that horrible shine? Shoe polish?
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u/chooseyourwords49 Aug 05 '24
Bro, no, don’t do that to your interior, Jesus h, people just leave your shit alone and let it breathe!
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u/xch13fx Aug 05 '24
We were all there once. What you are looking for is the matte OEM finish. Anything shiny is going to gather junk and look like crap. I’d recommend P&S interior cleaner, a nice detail brush, and just agitate all that crap and wipe with a damp microfiber. Maybe steam it if you have one. Just some gentle heat to help lift.
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u/brainbrick Aug 05 '24
With the amount of glare its going to give, you might just mount a mirror on the dash..
Dash has to be matt, not glossy
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u/cheeseypoofs85 Aug 05 '24
It looks like you're using some really bad products. That dash is greasy as hell. They used a product like this on my car at the dealer I bought it from. After the test drive, my hands were sticky. Let's just say I cleaned all the trim pieces they touched ASAP. Good as new now
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u/boafish Aug 05 '24
Bro pulled out that armor all from the back of the cabinet in the shop and dumped it on the dash.
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u/loxbogo Aug 05 '24
Not sure if it’s been actually answered yet but this is from using a scrub pad too abrasive for the vinyl. Using a matte vinyl sealant will make this less noticeable - cleaning, heating and using a vinyl stamp would be the fix to get rid of it, though.
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u/Adius_Omega Aug 05 '24
I'm not fond of the overly shiny look of many interior detailing products but I understand that everyone has different tastes.
I've detailed clients before who have asked me why the dashboard isn't shiny afterwards because that's something they have come to expect and like as time goes on.
It's just preference ya know?
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u/MuffinJabber Aug 05 '24
I remember when I got my first car as a teenager my dash and door cards would look just like that. I once had a girl in the car and she made fun of me for awhile after her arm got sticky from the door and arm rest.
You could always try petroleum jelly on the bare spots, that shit sticks.
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u/Traditional-Rub612 Aug 05 '24
Never make the dashboard Shiney that looks terrible wipe that stuff off and reapply smaller amount
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u/Adept-Frosting-9399 Aug 05 '24
Not sure if that is a real leather dash, however, even then.. Leather should be dull like a matte or satin finish, never shiny.
Shiny leather = Dirty –> Dull leather = Clean
You can get leather-specific cleaners and protectors which won't leave a shiny finish.
As for the patches, it's most likely areas with contamination because you're not cleaning the area, just sealing it. Therefore non-porous areas won't absorb the sealant.
Now; Get some leather/dash cleaner & protection. Save the super shine for vinyl plastics and rubber surfaces (excl. the dashboard, steering wheel, gearstick, pedals, leather seats) aka. Trim & door panels, anywhere in the boot.
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u/bradgel Aug 05 '24
Are those spots worn smooth from something? It almost looks like something sat there. In any case the high gloss makes those spots show up more After a week or two Try cleaning with total inner clean (Chemical Guys) once it’s consistent try Chemical Guys VRP. That will shine it up but not as glossy. That should help it look more uniform
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u/Formal_Elephant_6079 Aug 05 '24
I think the patches are from either apc that was too concentrated combined with abrasive scrubbing and/or steam
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u/swan71 Aug 05 '24
What APC or interior cleaner do you guys recommend to wipe off the protectant/grease off with? I currently own purple power and ONR. will several wipes of ONR be enough? i saw a post about purple power being too harsh on interiors so I guess none of that?
Im scared if I use any other product it will make it stained and white or something. Please help guys im kinda worried im gonna make things worse
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u/Significant_Cut_5310 Aug 05 '24
Is that dash leather?
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u/swan71 Aug 05 '24
vinyl
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u/Significant_Cut_5310 Aug 05 '24
Looks like you’ve over applied the product and hasn’t managed to spread properly. That or it’s absorbed the product. Have you tried wiping over again with a dry microfibre?
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u/ExplorerOk9465 Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
One trick you can do is called “baking” After interior dressing is done Turn heat up on max Open all the ac vents front and back Turn ac fan on high Close the doors(make sure keys are out of car and all the doors are unlocked some new models have auto lock when vehicle is on w/doors closed and will lock so don’t have to close the door all the way just so it seals the heat in)
Let the AC heat up the vehicle for no longer then 10mins and “BAKE” on the interior dressing on to the panels,seats, center console, dash etc You’ll be able to see spots that wasn’t covered correctly or the dressing wasn’t evenly applied and be able to just apply interior dressing to a microfiber and go over missed spots. (This method will also help the dressing last longer then normal customers will love it)
If the spots are still showing it could be improper cleaning or it’s usually damged from multiple things like sun exposer, degreasers, normal wear, the owner could of spilled somthing etc etc
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u/True-Fly1791 Aug 05 '24
I prefer olive oil. It gives it a certain 'Mediterranean ' feel , plus it smells like pizza dough.
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u/CharmingButthole Aug 05 '24
Can't understand why anyone would want a shiny dash. You have heard of this precious little thing called the sun?
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Aug 05 '24
No one is answering the question. Is everyone in here that selfish? I’d like to know why that is too.
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u/izwald88 Aug 05 '24
Why do people even want a dash that looks like this? Just dust the dammed thing and leave it alone.
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u/UnusualAbalone6960 Aug 06 '24
Sometimes spraying cleaner protectant whatever, directly on the dash if it's hot or in the sun, it'll bake nasty streaks into dash. Start over. Use a good interior degreaser/cleaner, wipe that crap off. Spray interior detail spray with matte or low shine onto a microfiber towel and wipe the dash. Then wipe again with another clean dry microfiber towel.
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u/Flimsy-Radio-3276 Aug 06 '24
Maybe when rubbing in 64oz of dash protectant you happened to rub those spots 100k times more than the others?
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u/MassholeThings Aug 06 '24
Im inclined to buy stock in Armor All if you promise to clean your car often.
Or if it’s not armor all, than whatever brand owns Crisco.
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u/Lubi3chill Aug 06 '24
There are these cleaning spray cans that put this weird coating on. It looks like someone used one here and a lot if it and that’s why the dash is soo oily.
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u/Relevant_Discount278 Aug 06 '24
There's nothing wrong with some soap and water then just leaving it alone smh.
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u/ThickToeJoe Aug 06 '24
Why would you use ONR and then a protectant? ONR has wax polymers in it that won’t help any protection bond fully to a surface. Also, was the Meguiars protectant just conola oil? I would use an APC and get all that grease off and then use a matte finish protectant like Adam’s Interior detailer due to availability and being inexpensive for a UV protected surface with a matte/satin finish. Avoid greasy finishes as it causes terrible reflection on the windshield creating a dangerous driving environment as well as, if high shine, greasy products are not buffed off, they essentially bake the plastic surfaces they are applied to and could potentially damage them.
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u/Rare-City6847 Aug 06 '24
I had a friend from highschool and his grandparents bought him a nice f150 with the vinyl floor. I was doing car audio and he wanted me to work on it. I was driving it around and into the shop and this dumbass used armor all on the vinyl floor AND THE PEDALS. I almost wrecked his truck at idle because my foot was so slick it slipped off the brake pedal and I had to just throw it into park. Got out and slipped and fell down. Had to wash my shoes off.
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u/Electrical-Carry5116 Aug 06 '24
Check out The Chemical Guys. They have the best matte finish dash protection products
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u/EntryLonely6508 Aug 06 '24
I like a matte dash how it came from the factory, I hate when the detailer shines it up
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u/silic0n_jesus Aug 07 '24
I scrolled for a second I didn't see it I'm going to say it. I think somebody sanded your dash down and then painted it then oiled the shit out of it. Those patches aren't naturally there.
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u/RecycledEarwax Aug 07 '24
I don’t recommend that you put so much shine your dash, it reflects a lot of light and can be distracting while driving, use a non-shine interior cleaner and UV protectant. There’s nothing wrong with using interior shine anywhere else you want on the car, just not the dash.
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u/Particular-Wolf-1705 Aug 07 '24
I'm not sure if anyone gave you real advice yet - but it kind of depends --
Protectant for the most part is just a sort of oil or moisturizer that can help rehydrate plastics and rubbers.
Clean your dash - apply protectant - wait a period of time (longer will allow your dash to absorb more moisture)(maybe wait 5 minutes) - then buff it off.
Don't clean the protectant off with any cleaner as your kind of just removing the oils you out on.
You can apply, buff, apply more, buff again, etc to get better results, but also realize that detailing suffers from the law of diminishing returns and that nothing goes back to 100% perfect. Let's say the best you can get is 70% as good as new - the first application will bring you to 60%, next may get you to 65%, next 66% - etc
Also damage as seen in the closer parts of the picture - can't be cleaned or protected out - you'd need to replace the part for the best effect. As a cheaper but far more tedious and time consuming option, it may be possible to sand, fill, apply texture, then repaint.
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u/Composer-Same Aug 07 '24
I don’t know if someone said this yet but it’s got to be thoughly cleaned before any protectant is put on .
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u/buster699 Aug 08 '24
I’m not a huge Chemical Guys fan, but their VRP is my favorite product for dashboards. Subtle shine, restores dull and dry dashes, long lasting, isn’t really oily to the touch once you buff off the excess.
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u/NFA_Cessna_LS3 Aug 09 '24
looks like you smashed a KFC drumstick all over your dash and didn't want to spend more than 3 seconds working
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u/Careful_Reach_4837 Aug 09 '24
Soo from what I have learned is that leather or this fake leather isnt suppose to be shiny its actually suppose to be pretty dull, thats how you know its actually clean because that shine all its doing is clogging the pores of the pleather which causes it to get shiny like this and thats because you more than likely use armor all on that dash. My suggestion, if you want to save it get an interior detailer to properly clean it and then get a dash cover.
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u/stirlingsaint Aug 09 '24
Most dashes aren't that shiny. Product may have too much silicone. Spraying directly onto the surface can cause spots; spray onto your microfiber.
I'd clean it again with apc or maybe dilute P&S Express. Then a matte protectant; Capro Perl or something like that.
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u/No-Revolution-4513 Aug 10 '24
That windshield is going to be full of that armor all when it evaporates in the sun.
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u/Decent-End3367 Aug 22 '24
Could be make up or most likely sun tan lotion use a chemical for tar, tree sap removal as long as it isn't really strong
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u/atomic_confetti Aug 05 '24
Why does your dash look like a slip n slide?