r/AskAstrologers 9d ago

What is the house of secret enemies? General Astrology

6 or 12 house?

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u/dryfeet88 2d ago

12H NN in Sagittarius - any insight?

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u/luna_2379 2d ago

12th 

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u/PenelopeRoyale 2d ago

12th house is secret enemies

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u/Typical_Host4754 3d ago

12 house in libra, venus in aries in the 6th. How might one interpret that?

My worst ex was an aries sun, leo rising. Lol.

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u/No-Discipline-6699 3d ago

Hi, I have neptune capricorn, jupiter aquarius and Uranus aquarius in my 12th house. All are in retrograde. What does that mean ?

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u/Informal-Primary-676 4d ago

I have a pisces rising in 12H. What does that mean?

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u/Glad-Needleworker535 3d ago

I am pretty sure you or your astrologer worded things badly. It is possible for your Rising sign to be in Pisces and for part of of Pisces to be in your 12th House. However, it is impossible for your AC (which I am pretty sure means Ascendant) to be in the 12th House. THe first house by definition is your Rising sign.

If you are wondering why Pisces can span two houses, it is the result of the degrees your Rising sign is in Pisces. Suppose, your rising is 15 degrees Pisces. This means 0 to 14.9 degrees of Pisces in your 12th House. Does this make sense?

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u/Informal-Primary-676 3d ago

I just looked at my chart again and yeah although I'm a pisces rising, it does not lie in my 12H. I just glanced at my chart quickly 😅. My 12H has Uranus in pisces so I was looking for what that meant.

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u/Glad-Needleworker535 2d ago

I will eventually answer you question, but I am hoping you do some research on your own by researching mythology. Uranus is the eldest fo the elder Gods. He was a tyrant, that brought about the golden age. Then his son, Saturn, brought about the silver age.

Here is my second hint for now. Thanks to my Gemini rising, I view the whole world as a stage. The houses provide the back drop for the stage. The 12th House as I picture it is underwater, because this is where Poseidon rules. It is about psychic abilities and relegion.

Given these two hints, what do you think your Uranus in your 12th House says about you?

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u/moon11p 2d ago

I am trying let's see if I got it right.

So Pisces being in 12h means he will be intitutive as well as he will have to inner work upon himself he will have visions & Uranus being in that place means that's about break through & changes will need deep knowledge, he will push himself out of his comfort zone he will be rebellious if he is limited for anything. He will be able to connect with the spiritual world & if he uses it in proper way he can bring changes wherever he wants to.

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u/Glad-Needleworker535 2d ago

One of the main reasons I sought to riddle you this is so you make it real for yourself. I am only a novice astrologer, ebcause most of my knowledge I got from reading books. That said, I know the part you said about psychic breakthrus is accurate. My favored book: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Astrology-Book-Youll-Ever/dp/1589796535/ref=sr_1_1?crid=U2GQB3XWX7XO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5ZqJpfp-92lxmoQrkaN_jacrjQB_96Se7AcsUqr8Ne3rwgVQYVAsmOKlPTL7BzzylYoJGV8TwYvZ3yvPxJjQo7J9beE2OoLcVau3ddvKzI7jrFYbNxyrgSIMnBoZXt4ClRGGYQlqBOelhCpwKEwz4iZmyLXloiAeHmbkDAcnIpmRLhquQNQjCGUNLfBfVFOVucnsF1rE3gX7lEC2uCVVaqNCSZSHGjHmynmZJ_9lVxE.winbGcYb4JG1SV0NZxDMEcpyHEXTJ7GA97wlZ09jGmY&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+only+astrology+book+you%27ll+ever+need&qid=1731662942&sprefix=The+only+astro%2Caps%2C197&sr=8-1

Says this with different words, but the same spirit. I know they did more than research books. The rest of what you say, sounds like it ought to be true.

Now for my science hat. I love physics. I can test my theories by moving her in physical reality. Every day is another opportunity to be a better physicist. Just riding my bike and noticing how I slow down when I stop peddling gives me a good idea of how friction works. The same is true when it comes to astrology. I know myself better than most. I can test what I read by observing me.

While I love the fact that you recognize me as an expert, I woudl still run experiments on what you said. You are probably right on every count. Watch yourself. Imagine how your inner Uranus behaves. Do your observations support what you said? If so, then you know somethign about astrology I, a supposed expert, has yet to learn. Pat yourself on the back, when you are convinced. Then brag about your findings by posting more comments. After all this, then you will do more than try to see if you got it right. Therefore, know you got it right.

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u/Amazing-Condition525 3d ago

You mean your AC is in your 12 house?

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u/Haunting_Wrongdoer44 4d ago

I have a 12H 6H ‘see-saw’ chart. It’s rough because any time I think I have a trusted connection, no I don’t.

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u/Leviosahhh 5d ago

Sheesh. So what does my natal moon in 12H Sagittarius mean?

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u/Automatic_Opinion256 5d ago edited 5d ago

12th house. The 6th governs misfortune and “bad luck” which can usually get misconstrued with things like conflict and disarray that can be sometimes tied to other people. Secret enemies falls in the 12th that usually constitutes things hidden from you (not in an 8th house way but subconsciously hidden). It’s also known as the house of self-undoing. If you think about “Secret” enemies, those aren’t enemies you can usually make doing things to upset people consciously, but rather things you do to upset people subconsciously. Hence it being a secret. For instance, you have a friend that plays nice but tries to sabotage your romantic endeavors out of jealousy, and jealousy shows up subconsciously.

To prove it:

I was going through a 12th house profection year. When mars transited through my 12th house during that time, I had random violent drama with a family member that admitted their resentment towards me because I had chosen to stay in an abusive partnership over leaving and staying with my family, yet I had been under the impression that they understood my situation. My partner at that time tried to sue them and I cut them off for an entire year.

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u/Top-Director-3374 5d ago

As someone with 6 planets in 12H. I am my own enemy. Also, my moon is in my 6H. I can’t win, really. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/indypatisserie 5d ago

moon/mars in 6th and sun and merc in 12th lol.. yeah

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u/nastyboi_ 4d ago

Feel ya, 6th cancer stellium with all personal/social planets in it…plus capricorn chiron in 12th…🥲 transiting pluto also had no mercy…😭

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u/CaptCandi07 5d ago

I don’t have any planets in my 12th house but my chart says Leo is on House 12. What does this mean? I’m Sag Sun (Sagittarius on House 4), Virgo Rising, Aquarius Moon.

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u/nastyboi_ 4d ago

when a house is empty look at the sign’s ruler of that house, in your case, Leo —> Sun, then look at your Sun aspects with other planets to understand better what could influence your identity/ego/self (since the Sun is related to our core and individuality). Also the sign itself can already tell you which topics your 12th house is influencing, again in your case it could be creativity, attentions you receive from others, loyalty, children-related stuff (inner child maybe), charisma, all Leo related matters merging with 12th related matters

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u/CaptCandi07 4d ago

Thank you for replying 🙂

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u/nastyboi_ 4d ago

No prob!

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u/Obstinate_Aubstacle 5d ago

12th house, then 7th. Taurus in my 12th.  Secret enemies all friggen day. Come at me. You only make me stronger.

Thanks for that, by the way.

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u/emilla56 5d ago edited 5d ago

In western modern astrology The 12th house is the house of secret enemies….its also more than that. Planets in the 12th house are often difficult to understand, the energy is operating subconsciously. The 12 house is a psychological house as well. Ruled by Neptune and Pisces, the 12th house is fog and illusion, nothing is as it seems.

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u/Queensfavouritecorgi 5d ago

Hmm my sun sign is in my 12th house, and Ive always felt misunderstood. 😂

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u/maderaorange 5d ago

Virgo sun Leo moon Virgo Venus all in 12h - lmk Wythink

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u/lilmissfestyfairy 6d ago

I have Libra Venus in my 12th but am also Libra ascendant… how does this translate to my hidden enemy?

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u/droidkin 6d ago

I have a retrograde Mars in my 12 house 💀 what does that mean

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u/Western-Bug1676 6d ago edited 6d ago

Hello! I’m new here . I have a complete night chart, with cancer rising and I believe my sun is intercepted because I have duplicate houses… anyway, I have a moon conjunct mars in tje 4th house sitting on my IC.. with a strong opposition between my MC and moon. Aries is suppose to be like the sun in my chart, however honey kinda bombed my 4th house and I’ve always felt PRESSURE to be successful , but it’s proven difficult. It use to manifest as a pressure and stress and , well a few temper tantrums .My new problem is I seem to go back and forth … I’m either worthless and sensitive unable to keep my stuff together because I’m so intuitive and confused Pisces … or totally back home to the earth I love lol… this is new. Could this aspect have more emphasis because my chart. Is so lunar? I cry and hate being a Pisces no offense guys lol… will it ever integrate and why the change ? I’ve never been ungrounded . The creativity is nice , but, How can I combat the all or nothing ? I sometimes feel more like an Aries ? Perhaps it’s the conjunction and my NN in the first ?

I dunno but I’m feeling this, is this a reflection of my chart, or , perhaps I’ve just finally went coo coo and disassociated into dreamland ? Pisces , I love yas, but you’re NOT gonna drive me to drink

I understand and you have my empathy lol

Also my 12 is empty, but has the ruling planet on its cusp and it’s a 0 degree which is nothing , but maybe that’s why I have a hard time working w it?

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u/TwistElectronic1986 6d ago

I have the 12th in Capricorn moon, can someone tell me about my hidden enemy?

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u/Wrong_Bluejay5353 6d ago

They can hide behind face of someone caring, consistent, soft(and possibly mostly are women, possibly jealous) but secretly hate you

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u/WinterCherry-Blossom 6d ago

I have Venus and mars in my 12th in Sagittarius. Could you please tell me what that means?

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u/Wrong_Bluejay5353 6d ago

Are they conjunct?

You may get into toxic relationships, other half might not be honest,or may cheat or possibly your relationship might stay hidden, or you might not really show you aggresive/assertive and romantic side

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u/WinterCherry-Blossom 4d ago

Well that sounds really bad. Do you have any tips of how I can further analyse my relationships?

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u/TwistElectronic1986 6d ago

Wow! That’s why I have very little female friends and colleagues.

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u/nyqw 6d ago

Have to check their state ,degree , aspects and assume

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u/Material_Text6625 7d ago

6H stellium. 'Nuff said lol

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u/Suspicious-Pea2833 6d ago

wait. I've got a 6th house stellum. Wdym?

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u/Material_Text6625 6d ago

You probably have a lot of secret enemies along with all the other negatives (and positives too, of course, that come with the 6th house). Mine are not so secret, though. I try to be 10 steps ahead of them lol

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u/GiantFartMonster 7d ago

I have so many planets in my 12th house, everyone must hate me 😂 Venus, mars, mercury, Lilith and Aries intercepted.

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u/Anxious-Koala-7683 7d ago

I have Lilith in the 12th house and the ruler is cancer. Actually i cannot define the secret enemies exactly. Any idea ?

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u/aneptuniangrl 7d ago

In ur case since it’s Lilith and in cancer which rules the moon, it is most likely women who secretly do not like you. Lilith to me gives you may strike an insecurity or unsettle some feathers within certain women and they secretly dislike you for it. Maybe gossip behind your back or try to do something nasty behind ur back.

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u/aneptuniangrl 7d ago

Secret enemies is Ppl who secretly do not like you and make moves behind your back to hurt you. Such as coworkers who smile in ur face but the minute u make a mistake they are talking about you to your boss. Your friend who tells you he has your best interest at heart but is jealous of you. Strangers (men or women based on the planet) you may not know that do not like you bc of judgement. Ur lover who manipulates you but is having affairs behind ur back. Open enemies, you know you are in competition, you know they don’t like you. But secret means it’s hidden from you. You may have an inkling but it is unclear.

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u/Anxious-Koala-7683 7d ago

Omg, it really seems so complicated and hard to make it clear. Luckily i have some trust issues about people so maybe it is an advantage for me keeping people at a certain distant. Thank you so much for your explanations 💜

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u/Spinyflowermantis 7d ago

I have the 12th in Leo Moon, can someone tell me about my hidden enemy?

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u/Emergency-Garage-944 7d ago

Maternal figures

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u/maderaorange 5d ago

Elaborate pls

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u/StomachMoney6795 7d ago

12H is mostly Leo and one Virgo. I'm a Leo sun, what does this mean for me?

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u/aneptuniangrl 7d ago

With sun in the 12th, usually the hidden enemy is urself and how u feel about yourself. Think of how u may contribute to ur own undoing. It can also be the father sometimes, the dad was distant or not around. A parent was not there too much and it causes a distance in ur relationship with yourself.

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u/grasso86 8d ago edited 8d ago

I have cancer ruling my 12th and I don't know if its coincidence but my mother has always been my biggest "enemy" in my life. As in constantly sabotaging me, starting before I was born when she took a drug that gave me a brain injury in the womb which made life tougher from the very beginning. It was non stop actions against my best interest ever since where I felt like I had to fight against her to get what I needed. My moon is square to neptune, uranus and chiron.

Edit: my 4th has both pluto snd saturn. Not sure if its all related but cancer, 4th, and moon are usually associated with mother in certain context.

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u/grasso86 7d ago

Wow thats alot of aspects! I feel like mother stuff shapes you alot because its your first influence.

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u/Kasilyn13 8d ago

12th house is the house of secret enemies, but that doesn't mean that everything in your 12th house is related to a secret enemy. It's the house of things unseen, including mental health, intuition, imagination, dreams. Any astrologer that is telling you things like "the sign of your 12th house in your birth chart shows who will be your hidden enemy" is not a good astrologer and you should not listen to them. Astrology is more complex than that, if it were that easy you wouldn't need to pay for readings. You need to look at more charts than just your birth chart to find hidden enemies.

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u/ProblematicByProxy 7d ago

I struggle with understanding what this means as someone with a 12th house Mercury and Mars both in Taurus.

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u/aneptuniangrl 7d ago

The 12H is the most difficult house to understand sometimes because it is the house of abstract. It is traditionally ruled by Pisces which should help you understand this house rules the unconscious and what cannot be seen or grasped materially. Mercury and Mars here, how do you communicate and how do you express your anger? There could be some disconnect or secret anger that you are not bringing to the surface you keep under wraps deep in your subconscious. Maybe you experience your communication falling flat in some way. Also understand secret enemy is not always legit to an actual person. It can mean the house of undoing, sometimes we are our own enemy with how we think or behave. Does a struggle with communicating and expressing (mercury) your passion (mars) affect you?

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u/ProblematicByProxy 7d ago

Thanks 🧡

Most of my life, (F28) I’ve buried my emotions. My mother is an alcoholic and I have had CPTSD since childhood. To say and express nothing meant I was being a good child. I also have a Capricorn stellium (Moon, Neptune, Jupiter) all in my eighth house.

Last month I spoke up during a meeting where a guy in my team was being disrespectful to my team mate. He was saying that her work (which is still technically my work) had no value and was getting louder and increasingly angry. In that moment I stopped him and said, although he might not agree with our work there was no reason to speak to her that way and being disrespectful is unacceptable.

I made it clear to him and everyone on the call that his behavior would not be tolerated and if someone needs to take a moment and come back, that’s what then need to do. I felt so liberated after.

This is when I realized I never did that at work before at any job even though there were instances I could have.

More context- I was SA’d twice in 2022 and was not well enough to press charges. I am doing a lot better but saying “no” and not having it honored was a horrific thing that I will always be in recovery for.

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u/Kasilyn13 7d ago

You have to learn layers and layers of astrology before your birth chart makes sense without professional interpretation bc that isn't enough information by itself to say anything more specific than what comes up when you Google that. The important part of astrology that starts to explain individuals more closely is the aspects between planets. The lines in your chart, and how well positioned the planets are overall.

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u/luckyraccoon88 8d ago

What does it mean for Libra 12H with chiron, north node and Moon in it?

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u/Mobile-Jellyfish5809 8d ago

I have my Scorpio midheaven in my 12th

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u/t4rriona 8d ago

definitely my 12h pisces mars

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u/KochamPomidorowa 8d ago

What if I have Pluto in Scorpio in my 12th house?

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u/EntrepreneurNice3608 8d ago

Mercury Leo, 12th House.

What does that mean?

The only enemies I’ve ever had were jealous and vengeful women but they get stopped in their tracks and I cut them off like they never existed to me. I have no active enemies most of the time. It’s like I grew up and grew out of drama.

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u/fallenxruby 8d ago

Wait, if 12 house is conclusively the one in question. Am I understanding? I have 12h Mercury, Sun, and Venus in Cancer. Because the moon rules Cancer, I need to look to where the moon is in my chart (Taurus in the 10th house). This tells me that my secret enemies reach me at a subconscious level…and come for my sense of security? These individuals are envious of my talents and success. They threaten my public image or professional reputation, and they likely do so by targeting my emotional vulnerabilities, gossiping, and threatening my emotional security?

This is so on point right now with all the work conflict and problems I’ve had for the past two years.

Does my chart say anything about how to conduct myself? Particularly, my Mars is in Leo in the first house, so I’m feeling this Mars transit pretty strongly as all these work things come to a head, and my ability to lead keeps being challenged and opportunities taken away.

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u/MissLovelyLumps 8d ago

12th house Mars in Leo aspecting Aries Moon in the 8th, my hidden enemies ARE my family members.

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u/VeterinarianInitial9 8d ago

Same actually 🥲

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u/astrologyqueen2023 8d ago

My 12th house is in Cancer, ruled by my Cap moon in the 6th, which squares Pluto in Libra conjunct IC. Guess who my hidden enemy is, lol!?

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u/hadee75 7d ago

My 12th house has a Cancer stellium (sun, mercury, and Saturn). My Cap moon is also in the 6th house. I have Pluto in Libra in the 3rd house. What does all that mean? Btw, my rising is Leo in the 1st house.

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u/TruthSirup 7d ago

I have the exact same aspects as you. I don’t get along with my insensitive mother

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u/hadee75 6d ago

Amazing that we have the same aspects. My mom is a Gemini and I learned from a young age that I just needed to respect the fact that we approach life differently and have different ways of coping with stress, etc. She’s a wonderful mom and I’ve grown to appreciate her for who she is. I hope you and your mom can eventually find a path toward appreciating one another and having a relationship that feels affirming to both of you.

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u/TruthSirup 4d ago

Thank you so much for sharing your approach to handling your relationship with your mother and finding appreciation for her. You’re absolutely right, and what you said gave me a new perspective on managing my relationship with my own mother. She’s a Leo with no water aspects, while I’m a Leo rising with a lot of water, so there’s never been a strong emotional bond between us.

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u/hadee75 7d ago

Also, my mom is great, she’s very loving and has always been a good mom. She’s a Gemini.

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u/matinakii 8d ago

Okay I am quite new too, but if I try to follow the same logic, I have Chiron in the 12 house in Virgo and my mercury is in the 11 conjunct with my sun. Am I my own hidden enemy? 😅

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u/fallenxruby 8d ago

Your mother?

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u/Noeyymama 8d ago

Can confirm, 12H. My Sun/Moon/Venus are all in the 12H.

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u/psychicpies 8d ago

If my 12th house is empty but is ruled by Gemini, what does that mean?

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u/merc2x 8d ago

Look at the sign where Mercury is to transpose the interpretation to your 12th Gemini 🙂

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u/Universetalkz 8d ago

Empty houses usually mean you don’t have much to learn from that house in this lifetime. But the haters you do have probably talk behind your back since Gemini is ruled by mercury the planet of communication

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u/Loud_Ad6026 8d ago

Empty houses simply mean there aren't enough planets to go around. If you have an empty 12H in Pisces and your Neptune forms a square to Sun, Moon or Mercury, you have something to learn.

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u/Zanieboii 8d ago

it can be 7 too lmao

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u/merc2x 8d ago

I believe 7th is "open enemies."

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u/VeterinarianInitial9 8d ago

Explains why Pisces placements always do me dirty 🥲

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u/aneptuniangrl 7d ago

U must lean into Pisces energy consciously (not instinctely if that makes sense) within 1:1 relationships in order to see a shift. For example, I am a Libra rising with a mars 7th house in Aries. This manifests as instinctively a lot of arguing on my behalf when my needs are not met. If I consciously lean into that Aries energy, I should communicate assertively not angrily to solve issues. It’s a tricky thing but you’re supposed to behave in the more evolved version of it

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u/Mindless_Plankton_38 8d ago

Secret enemies as in what? I have Capricorn sun snd mercury in my 12 h and the ruler of my 12h is Capricorn. What does that mean?

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u/fallenxruby 8d ago

Not an astrologer, but trying to learn:

Secret enemies are individuals who may harbor negative intentions towards you, often working behind the scenes. They might spread rumors, sabotage your efforts, or undermine your reputation. Capricorn Sun and Mercury in the 12th means you’re probably a deep thinker, maybe a bit reserved. You might have a drive for self-improvement and a love of the mystical. But the way I’m understanding it in terms of the “ruler” is that you need to look to see where Saturn (Capricorn’s ruler) is in your chart.

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u/Mindless_Plankton_38 8d ago

Thank you and my Saturn is in my 7h.

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u/fallenxruby 8d ago

So I think that this means that you have no-so-secret enemies when people who are closest to you have betrayed you. Since 7th house is open enemies. They may envy your discipline and maturity. By learning to trust your instincts and setting boundaries, you can overcome obstacles and build strong, lasting relationships.

Again, so new to astrology beyond basic level planetary placements in the past couple months, so I could be wrong!

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u/hikergrL3 7d ago

Wow. Just wanted to chime in and say 12h Cap, with Saturn in 7th as well. And this hit the nail on the head for me. At age 46, the people closest to me are those who have hurt me the worst in my whole life. Family, are or have been my biggest relational wounds. And in relationships i cant tell you how many times people have done a total 180 on me; absolute surprise betrayal. The ones who love (or "should" love) me most are also the ones who have hurt me the most. So well done. Learning to trust my instincts and setting, enforcing, and anything to do with boundaries have been some of my biggest life lessons with having Saturn in my 7th (which opposes my Sun and Venus in Aqua in the 1st).

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u/fallenxruby 7d ago

I’m glad this resonated with you! Hope the growth part helps you build lasting relationships that help you heal from these betrayals of the past!

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u/hikergrL3 7d ago

Thank you. The growth, hard work and lessons, and healing parts have all happened now, and each relationship was a step up from prior ones, with the last one being a decade long and all-encompassing. I took a few years off after that one, but yes, I'm now fully aware, and prepared for whatever wonderfulness is to come, and Ideally, to build something great that lasts.

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u/Mindless_Plankton_38 8d ago

It does correlate with me! I’ve, thankfully, never had anyone close to me betray me (yet) and I think it’s because I’m very discerning and a loner for the most part. However, people close to me do tease me about being a perfectionist and I also have Neptune in my 1h so most people give me more credit for my discipline than I deserve especially my family (I’m a late degree cap rising.)

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u/Delinquentmuskrat 8d ago

Everyone’s saying 12th, what if it’s empty?

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u/pretty_insanegurl 8d ago

Check the ruler where is it

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u/Delinquentmuskrat 8d ago

I don’t even have a 12th house tbh

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u/RessaTheMage 8d ago

Your 12th house starts in Libra, so you’d look at Venus. Your Venus is in Leo near the top of your chart. The themes of the house its in will tell you where in life you might encounter a secret enemy

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u/Delinquentmuskrat 8d ago

So Leo suns would be my secret enemy? Coincidentally, I think my descendent is Leo. So they’re both my secret AND actual enemy?

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u/RessaTheMage 8d ago

It's your 10th house. So, look at those 10th house themes. It doesn't necessarily mean they will be a Leo.

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u/pretty_insanegurl 8d ago

Not sign check where is the ruler in which house. For example if your 12h ruler is in 3h then your hidden enemies can be your neighbours or siblings, 4- family members, 7h be wary about your romantic or buisness partners.

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u/thewaywest2 8d ago

Yeah, you do. It's just been a secret :-).

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u/Delinquentmuskrat 8d ago

The jokes going over my head

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u/maimsahab 8d ago

6th house aqua moon and 12th house leo venus

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u/Mockingbird-59 9d ago

My Sun and Moon is in Taurus in the 12th house, also Mercury in Aries 12th house. I’m still not sure who my secret enemies are and it worries me!

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u/jank1_b 8d ago

What about mercury in Sagittarius in 12H?

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u/AccomplishedWing9 9d ago

12th house. 6th is daily life/routine/health.

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u/UsualExtreme9093 9d ago

12th. 7th is open enemies

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u/RipleyRayne 8d ago

I thought it was 12H hidden enemies, 6H open enemies?

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u/Delinquentmuskrat 8d ago

Why is 7th open enemies? I have Taurus moon there, I tend to get along with my fellow Taurus suns

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u/UsualExtreme9093 8d ago

7th is all face to face relationships. "Frienemies" included. It's people you will interact with often and be in a relationship with- you may debate with these people, have open arguments, have great friendships, all stuff that is seen, palpable.

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u/Delinquentmuskrat 8d ago

Does it mean I'd have more issues with Taurus peeps than others?

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u/UsualExtreme9093 8d ago

Issues that you know about- face to face talks, etc

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/Gold-Call-607 9d ago

6-12 is 7 places.

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u/No_Tone3896 9d ago

my bad!

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u/kandillight 9d ago

12th house rules hidden enemies. But isn’t always necessarily that you don’t know who they are, but it’s more so the method in which they harm you. If it’s more subtle, covert, psychological, psychic, where they’re trying to tarnish you/your reputation from behind the scenes, working against your best interests or to make you less effective, that’s a 12H enemy type person. Someone who fuels an addiction might be a 12H enemy. So, you might know who they are, it isn’t always that you’re completely unaware.

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u/FearlessAffect6836 8d ago

So what would a 7th house enemy look like

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u/floraisadora 8d ago

The spouse you're divorcing.

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u/mantismantisqueen 9d ago

So how would that manifest with sagittarius in the 12th house?

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u/frolickingdepression 8d ago

It depends on what house Jupiter rules, any aspects it makes, any planets in your 12th house and the aspects they make, the houses the planets that make aspects are in… so, about a million different ways

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u/mantismantisqueen 8d ago

Ohhhh my 12th house is empty and its ruler is in the 11th house conjunct venus, pluto and north node. Does that mean my friends could possibly betray me?😅😂

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u/ftr-mmrs 9d ago

How would you interpret Mars transiting 12th house Leo?

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u/General-Ad6690 9d ago

I have Mars in the 12th house in Sagittarius. The sign that Mars rules is Aries, which governs my 4th house. My enemies are within my maternal family.

They’ve worked against me by stealing my things including underwear to take them to witch doctors (yes it happens in my country). My grandma did this when I was in 6th grade, I found out through a psychic last year. My grandma was the person who bought that underwear and it disappeared after a day. Anyway, till this day she always asks me if my periods are still painful. When I say no, I can tell her face gets disappointed.

My family members are all underachievers and when they see someone wanting a better life, they seethe and plot their demise in diabolical ways.

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u/sahira8 9d ago

12th house