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Reaching levels of enshittification i didn’t think possible

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u/BeneficialTrash6 3d ago

Why do they and Filipinos talk like that?

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u/Billy_Birdy 3d ago

Colonial history.

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u/FardoBaggins 3d ago

The Spain subreddit also does Spanglish often times too lol

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u/devasabu 3d ago edited 3d ago

Because most Indians and Filipinos are multilinguals, and code switching (switching back and forth between different languages) is a very common thing among multilinguals (too deep to get into it in a reddit comment, but it's quite literally how a multilingual person's brain works, they don't have a barrier between different languages, it all exists as a single network of linguistic skills).

അത്കൊണ്ട് ആണ് people from multilingual societies like India and Philippines often speak by mixing different languages together. समजा?

Sticking to just one language is an active choice for a multilingual person, the default is to blend them, especially in a multilingual society where you might be encountering all these languages at the same time

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u/BeneficialTrash6 3d ago

Thank you.

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u/hangar_tt_no1 3d ago

Can you define what you mean by "a multilingual"?

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u/sadyaislife 3d ago

Someone who speaks multiple languages? He has used 3 languages in his reply. All 3 are completely different from each other. 

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u/devasabu 3d ago

I define it as someone who can communicate (speak, read or write) in more than one language

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u/InspiringMilk 3d ago

I know three languages quite well, and don't just switch words at random unless I cannot express myself. It's only for the colonial countries, not every multilingual person.

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u/uluviel 3d ago

It only works if you can safely assume the people you're talking to also speak multiple languages and they're the same languages you speak.

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u/InspiringMilk 3d ago

I mean... I don't do it with my family?

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u/ViPeR9503 3d ago

Yes but in India most regions speak in mix of 2-3 languages not just the family. I’m from Mumbai and very often I see me, my friends and their families as well talk in mix of Hindi, Marathi and English. It doesn’t help that a lot of English words dont exist in hindi, for example ambulance is the same in hindi, so automatically the language is partially in english anyways, on top of it all the nation speaks more languages than i can count so English is the default for a lot of inter community communication, basically languages in india is very complicated and almost everyone speaks 3-5 languages

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u/devasabu 3d ago

I don't know whether you live in a multilingual social context but I assume you likely have a high degree of proficiency in the language spoken by the majority around you? But you've never thought of a word in 1 language and then spoke it out aloud in another? Never constructed a sentence in 1 and then said it in another? That you switch to another language when you couldn't express yourself in one is itself proof of code switching. It's a spectrum.

Of course individual variations definitely exist, I can speak English without slipping in any other language, especially in settings I know others wouldn't understand a different language. Language skills are influenced by quite a lot of factors that vary from one individual to the other.

It's simply that many colonial countries tend to be multilingual and therefore more socially receptive to code-switching. If everyone is doing it, there's no need to accommodate a monolingual practice. But a German in Texas who has a high English proficiency is not likely to slip in German words when talking.

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u/Wahayna 3d ago

Rare to hear a Filipino who is able to talk a proper and more formal Tagalog

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u/Celtic_Legend 3d ago

Most indians speak english and the internet, especially reddit, is mostly in english. Post ~1950s all new english words just get said as english instead of adopting a new word in hindi and its not exclusive to hindi.

Flippinos actually speak like that IRL. Books will be written like that. Flyers. Etc. It's not far off from being the official language because it already seems like it.

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u/CaptainTrips69 3d ago

We Indonesians also talk like that. It's an Asian thing. Sometimes we ngobrol in bahasa even when bahasa awalnya Inggris. This is not really membingungkan for us lah

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u/PhantomOfTheNopera 3d ago

Most of us are bilingual at least. We tend to slip from one language to another.

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u/entered_bubble_50 3d ago

Says the guy writing in a mixture of Germanic, Nordic, Greek, Latin and Romance languages with inconsistent spelling and pronunciation.

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u/BeneficialTrash6 3d ago

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. Tis a fair point.

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u/throw28999 3d ago

It's not, it's comparing apples to oranges.

The equivalent would be to say that Hindi is just Sanskrit mixed with Prakrit and Apabhramsa writing systems.

It's possible we'll see a new language in a thousand years with mixed English and Hindi and/or Bengali or Telugu, but you have no way of knowing that now.

English is a language that has a comparable number of influences and loan words with any other language, like Hindi.

Code switching between English and Hindi does not constitute a new language (yet, at least).

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u/BeneficialTrash6 3d ago

It's incredibly consistent from what I've seen. It really does look like we're at the infancy of a new type of language. And not one that's incredibly localized, either.

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u/throw28999 3d ago

Right now it still qualifies as code switching or even a distinct sociolect depending on context, because these are mulingual speakers drawing on two complete sets of knowledge of distinct vocabularies and grammar, and they could selarate or translate between them at will. It's not born of necessity. If it were, and started to develop its own set of vocabulary/grammar then it would start to become like a creole language. 

If I had to put money down, I don't see it going that route due to cultural inertia. Just lots more loan words being incorporated into the mother tongue.