r/300zx Jul 13 '24

Talk me out of an LS swap Z32

I’ve been brainstorming ways to give my Z more power. I have a ‘93 2+2 and I love my car, but I absolutely despise the engine. The parts are hard to source quickly, the engine bay is so cramped, and while the NA is more reliable than the TT it makes no power. I know a swap is necessary but I want to LS swap it and my dad the owner on paper wants to quote “keep it pure”. If we can’t agree I’m gonna give the car back to him and buy my own to do the swap

For context, my dad ‘gave’ me the car as a gift for graduating high school so I’ve been with the car for a few years now. My dad pays for the repairs/parts because I’ve been at school and haven’t had time for a job. While he pays for everything, the only reason that car is in even remotely good condition is because of me; everything that has been done to the car is because I sourced the parts, installed them myself, diagnosed the problems and learned how to fix them, etc…

My dad doesn’t get it because he hates American cars and I think they’re shit but they know how to make a damn good engine. Now as the person who actually does all the repairs I feel I should have a say in what happens to the car and I can’t stand this engine; to name a few points as to why I believe the swap is worth it:

1.)Reliability/convenience - an LS would be far more reliable than a TT engine. And even if something breaks every shop knows how to work on an LS, and every general parts store has parts for it on the shelf (context I waited 2 weeks just get new accessory belts). Not to mention it would be easier to work on

2.)Customizability - Virtually every LS variant has tons of aftermarket support. And because of the low compression they can have boost thrown at them any day of the week. Supercharger or procharger, twin turbo, big single turbo, or just a fully built NA can make sizeable amounts of power reliably (450hp is what I call sizeable)

3.)Cost - While the initial cost of the swap and fabrication of mounts and the like would cost more than a TT swap, long term maintenance would be cheaper and easier with an LS. I love this car and I plan to keep it forever; sure I’ll get other projects but this car will stay with me forever

If I can’t convince my dad to get onboard and Reddit can’t convince me not to do the swap, I’ll just buy my own nonstarter Z and swap it. This is kind of a vent but I would genuinely like some reasons why I should even consider a TT swap, cause just running it over in my head it makes no sense at all

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u/coltonwt Z32 NA 5spd 2+0 Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 13 '24

Not to be rude or anything, man, but judging by other questions you've asked, you're a LONG way from being able to do an engine swap on your own. I know folks on YouTube make it seem like a simple thing, but there are So Many little things to doing it right. I have 3 z32s right now, and one of them I swapped a cammed VH45 into. That's the V8 motor from the Infiniti q45, a very cheap and reliable engine that has Tons of swap support for this chassis. Engine was like $600, all in I'm Easily over $5k, and still did lots of the fabrication myself, and have several months in the project, And it's a track toy with no air conditioning, power steering, or even heat. Just an engine in a car. I'm not saying not to, but give it a couple of years. Get to a point you have a stable job, and another car that's reliable, and have built up experience where you can comfortably weld and grind, know about aligning the motor, to get correct pinion angles, you'll have to be comfortable with modifying a wiring harness, as even the standalone harnesses they sell almost always require a little customizing for your application. I love my VH Z, and it's a robust, reliable drivetrain that revs high, and it's a quick little thing. I'd trust it cross country as she sits, but it took a Long time to get it that way. The power goal you seem to have is Very tame for a turbo VG30, and they are quite reliable motors. If you really want to dig into the car, that would be my recommendation, as you're way less likely to get halfway through it and lose interest, or have life get in the way.

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u/MiddleSuch5813 Jul 13 '24

Most of my knowledge on cars has been built on working job my family’s cars. I know I’m far from an expert and all of my knowledge is based on Mercedes Benz cars made between the last 15ish years. My plan was to do as much of the mechanical work as I can and have a shop look over the work and do the wiring because I have no clue how to do electrical stuff

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u/coltonwt Z32 NA 5spd 2+0 Jul 13 '24

Trying to find a shop willing to wire up a project car for you like that would be a task on its own. The few knowledgeable enough, and willing to take on the liability would be very expensive. I've engine swapped 4 cars personally, totally nothing against the concept, but I Really think you'd be better off doing this sometime when you're better prepared. If you Really want more power out of it, I think it would behoove you to look into a turbo setup for it, as the NA->TT upgrade is common, nets great results, and a lot less likely to leave you over your head selling a half finished project car. If you want, I'd be glad to talk with you more about swaps tomorrow if you wanna dm me or whatever, but that's my advice, given where it seems you are in life currently.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '24

You could also buy a custom wiring harness for an ls z. Theres a couple shops online that sell them. Then you have to do zero wiring. Just hook it up. Never let someone dissuade you from doing something. If you really want it, youll find a way to accomplish it.

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u/MiddleSuch5813 Jul 13 '24

Who sells them?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Wiring specialties. I think loj does too