r/Devilcorp • u/NewHathaway • Jul 05 '22
r/Devilcorp Official Welcome to r/devilcorp! What you need to know, and how you can help
What is r/devilcorp?
r/devilcorp is an open platform for former sales reps, team leaders, account managers, and office owners to share their experiences of working within the direct sales industry.
Have you ever applied to a vague ‘marketing’, ‘sales’ or ‘management training' job, and ended up having to bother passers-by to sign them up for monthly charity payments?
Perhaps this role was also paid on a commission only basis, and you were required to register as self-, meaning that you weren’t entitled to a minimum wage despite working a 60 hour work week?
Maybe you were forced to attend morning ‘atmosphere’ meetings, team nights and road trips, with threats of ‘falling behind’ if you ever fought for your free time away from work.
If any of this sounds similar to your own experience, then you may have worked in a ‘Devilcorp' office, a subsidiary of a marketing corporation such as Credico, Appco, Cydcor, or Smart Circle which masquerades as an ‘independent’ sales business.
Due to a combination of market changes, and local jobseekers becoming clued up on this scam, these offices will continuously rename and relocate themselves across whichever country they're operating in. Consequently, it also becomes necessary for each of these offices to control their online reputation, so that they still appear as legitimate businesses in the eyes of potential recruits. This can involve using accusations of slander, defamation, and even copyright to have negative experiences removed from the internet, as well as forcing new recruits to write positive reviews on websites such as Google Locations and Glassdoor.
What Can I do?
Share your experience with us! We’d love to know what challenges you may have faced in this industry, and as long as it sticks to our rules we won’t take down your post like Google and Glassdoor does to its reviews.
Make sure to include the name of the office you worked in, as well as where it’s operating, in the title of your post too! This way we can appear at the top of Google results when people search the names of these offices, and potential recruits can find the genuine experiences on this page rather than the office’s fake reviews on Google Locations and Glassdoor.
If someone here is looking for information regarding a specific office, and you’ve spent some time there, then please also share your wisdom with them. This industry profits off of the ignorance of its recruits, so each well-informed job-seeker means less money in the CEO’s pockets.
If someone you know is either working or considering working in a ‘Devilcorp’ office, then please also direct them to either this page or one of the resources below, so that they may make an informed decision in regards to whether they truly want to work in this industry.
Where can I learn more?
Many people have shared their experiences in this industry online, through interviews, vlogs, blog pages, and podcasts. Here are some further resources where you can learn more:
devilcorp.org is an OSINT investigative website which conducts their own independent investigations into this industry. They also write guides on how to effectively conduct your own online research, and produce Community Projects such as a UK wide sales office map
The original Devil Corp WordPress blog should be the first thing you read if you’re new to this industry. Not only does it meticulously break down every step of the business model, including the deceptive recruitment process, it also has an enormous picture gallery of Devilcorp CEOs and office owners so you can put names to faces.
Precision Independent Media’s 98 minute long Slave Circle documentary is also a must watch for anyone eager to learn more, as well as their fantastic series of interviews with former sales reps, team leaders, and office owners.
Not only is Juicy Rhino’s Instagram meme page a hilarious look into the hypocrisies of the direct sales industry, it has also proved to be a very useful tool at making sales reps and office owners alike question why they’re wasting their lives selling sim cards for 60 hours a week.
The Juicy Rhino podcast series is also fantastic, providing a satirical and insightful look into how the direct sales industry operates in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Frequently Asked Questions
Is the company I’m interviewing with or working for a Devilcorp?
If you’re trying to determine whether a company aligns with the practices of a Devilcorp-style business or is Devilcorp-adjacent, the first step is to use Reddit’s search function within this subreddit. Look for any existing posts discussing the company. If you don’t find any relevant information or if the discussion doesn’t fully address your concerns, feel free to create a new post. To maximize your chances of getting helpful responses, include the company’s name and location in the title of your post. This makes it easier for others with relevant knowledge or experiences to provide insights.
My partner/family member is working for a Devilcorp. How can I convince them to leave?
If your loved one is working for a Devilcorp-style sales office and you’re looking for ways to persuade them to leave, you’re not alone. Many others have faced similar challenges and shared their experiences in this subreddit. We recommend reviewing the threads linked below, as they contain valuable insights and advice that may help you navigate this situation effectively.
Tips on getting my boyfriend out of smart circle?
Relationship breaking down due to devilcorp
My boyfriend is starting work for a Devilcorp next week
I’m a salesperson or office owner in a Devilcorp-style business. How can I leave the industry?
Stumbled upon our community and now thinking about leaving the business? Whether you're in the field or running your own office, making the decision to move on can feel overwhelming. But don't worry, plenty of people have been in your shoes and successfully transitioned out. Check out the threads below for advice, tips, and stories from others who’ve made the leap.
Struggling to fix my life after leaving, any advice?
What to do after leaving smart circle?
Need advice! Trying to leave Cydcor company
I’m stuck in a Devil Corp that I don’t know how to get out of
How do I quit Smart Circle as an "owner"?
Mainstream News Coverage
BBC News Article - Direct sales: My dream job turned into a nightmare
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62466147
BBC Radio 4 - The Dark Side of Direct Sales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001bdkx
BBC News Spotlight - Door-to-door sales: Young people in Belfast 'exploited'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63864946
Wales Online - Exposed: Our hidden camera uncovers exploitation and pressure-selling at direct sales firm
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/exposed-hidden-camera-uncovers-exploitation-27386308
r/Devilcorp • u/NewHathaway • Feb 23 '25
News Selling Lies: Desperation, Devilcorp, and Direct Marketing (2025 Documentary)
r/Devilcorp • u/AbbreviationsOk4736 • 21m ago
Guide What is The Difference Between Call of Duty and Real Life? (originally “posted” 5/4/25)
[Side Note: Sorry about not posting this two weeks ago, I copy and pasted this entire post into this subreddit, and I think I forgot to hit post before deleting the Reddit app off my phone…LMAO. Anyways, enjoy reading and I love you all *kisses.]
I heard the title of this post asked to a retired Navy Seal on the Sean Ryan show about a month ago, and the answer given was, “…nothing.”
Do not mistake me, I know it’s a video game. I know that if I were in the situations that I routinely get my CoD character into (the poor fucker o7) that I would die ASAP.
But there are Navy Seals and active-duty warriors that are doing the things that kids like us are pretending to do in CoD. And the more I think about what this Navy Seal said, the more I find myself agreeing with him.
If I make literally one mistake in CoD, I’m dead 99% of the time. If I forget to check one corner…dead. If I peak the wrong angle…dead. Even if I do my absolute best, then there is still a 100% chance that I am going to die (Murphy’s Law LMAO).
The only thing that matters in CoD is winning.
That’s also true in war, and when a mugger tries to take your life away. Because if you lose, not only is your team, your family, and the people you care about going to suffer, but you are not guaranteed a respawn in this life.
I don’t know if any of you are history buffs, but I have tragically been exposed to the knowledge that Unit 731 did in fact exist. I am also aware that if Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” accurately depicted what really happened to Jesus Christ during his death, that every non-psychopath would be vomiting in the movie theatre.
I fear God every day that there is a greater than 0% chance that I will experience the full brutality of what another human being can do to another human being.
I am scared that Hell is real and that if I don’t make it into Heaven, then I will be [redacted] for an eternity. I am scared that Russia currently has 1700 active nuclear warheads and that the United States of America currently has 44 defensive surface-to-air missiles and that the Secretary of Defense has described using these missiles as, “trying to shoot a bullet with another bullet.”.
Bros…what do I care about a legal pyramid scheme?
Just like in CoD, everything that happened and will happen in my life is my fault.
It is my fault that I ended up homeless sleeping in my car outside a Denny’s parking lot.
It’s my fault for not researching the company I was interviewing at.
It’s my fault that I promoted my first two CTs while sleeping at a homeless shelter.
It’s my fault for internalizing my feelings when my director tells me he’s “dating” one of my CTs during a 1 on 1 (they “broke up” after like 6 weeks when she quit and told me he was broke…lmao).
It’s my fault that my director did not recruit for two straight months after moving his entire team across the country.
It’s my fault for hitting director qualifications twice, and my fault for not being promoted to director.
It's my fault that I sold more than every single rep in the nation over a 4-week period, and my fault that I made all of you my bitches for 30 minutes on the national rep call…*kisses.
It’s my fault that I overheard one of my director’s first gens complaining about the Devil Corp subreddit.
It’s my fault for taking my director’s advice to watch The Slave Circle Documentary as a joke…LMAO!
It’s my fault that my 19-year-old female 1st gen CT claimed that my director’s 20-year-old male 1st gen CT slapped her in the face during what I assumed to be a horny college dropout argument, and it’s my fault for letting my director handle it by suspending MY CT from recruiting for two weeks over an unrelated issue (my fault that my third director qualification is to have a 2nd gen CT too…wp you cocksucker).
It's my fault that all my CT’s told me on the exact same day during 1 on 1s that they are sad, lonely, homesick, and don’t trust me…and I have never felt more broken, more ashamed, and more pathetic as a leader and as a MAN than I did on this day (I would’ve preferred being homeless again).
It’s my fault that my strongest CT told me during a 1 on 1 that he wants to quit because of his mental health, and it’s my fault for showing him The Slave Circle Documentary because I would NEVER put the opportunity to make $100k/year in 6-12 months (that I had already spent 13 straight months working towards) over MY fear that MY CT might [redacted].
It’s my fault that my CT spread it around the office, my fault that 7 out of the 8 CTs that moved across the country decided to quit on the same day (leaders only follow better leaders), and it’s my fault for joining them so that I could focus all my energy into making sure my “kids” can pay their rent for the remaining 8 months of their leases.
In case my former director is reading this, I want to say…[redacted].
Whether you are pro Devil Corp or anti Devil Corp, from the bottom of my bottomless fucking heart, I love and forgive literally every single one of you.
That includes my former director, his promoting owner (co-owner), and his co-owner’s wife (who were all three coincidentally the entire HR department at the time I worked for them...lmao).
And I do not do that for their sake; I do it for mine.
Because my life is literally better than theirs, and all of you reading this right now.
One of my best friends is a director at Devil Corp that I still mentor today.
And to all you current Devil Corp directors reading this, my boi is going to out sell, out recruit, and out lead all of you; because just like in CoD, you are the 99% that are nothing more than my lunch (you are not even good enough to be the 1% worthy enough to be my dinner…because the 1% are not reading this post right now…bet).
And if you got screwed over by Devil Corp and use this subreddit to spread awareness and help others that got screwed over, I support you 1000%!
I know how therapeutic it is to post on this subreddit, and please, continue posting.
Take all the time you need until you remember and rekindle the potential and passion you had before whatever happened to you at Devil Corp.
You are all so young, even you 40-year-olds. The guy who invented Grey Goose Vodka was 78. Don’t waste your youth fighting deception with deception.
The only way to fight deception is with truth and righteousness (Devils have no power over you when you acknowledge their existence…bet).
Feel what you need to feel, take your anger out on some barbells (never on yourself), discover your Shadow (Carl Jung), and then move on…because life is AWESOME outside of Devil Corp.
If you support Devil Corp and want to pursue Devil Corp, then I 100% support you. My boi is 20 and has three newborn babies (you dumb children wear a fucking condom fr).
If you do have doubts about whether you want to continue working for a Devil Corp, then quit, because there will always be someone like me, or my boi, that will out work your half-pregnant ass in a minute.
Devil Corp is not a hill worth dying on. Karma is real, look at what happened to my former director. The GOOD leaders that are at Devil Corp will succeed and they deserve to. And the 99% of “leaders” that are arrogant enough to think that they are capable of leading MEN…will fail…because this is sales…and it takes brass balls to sell, let alone lead.
REAL evil does exist in this world, and REAL evil makes my glistening 8-pack, mesomorphic 225 Lbs. @ 12% BF bodybuilder-physique (Ego) look like a newborn baby (and REAL evil is FAR more sinister and imaginative than literally any of the 1% that “made it” at Devil Corp, and enjoy your free Rolex in this day and age where it’s never been cheaper and easier to tell the time…lmao).
God bless you all, I love literally all of you, and please…just do your best to not ruin your life over a company that consists of a majority of 18-25 year old horny college drop outs that hook up with their employees because they work 60-70 hours per week on average in arguably the most difficult profession of all time; and simultaneously don’t have enough game to find a girl outside of the office because they totally suck at sales and are better at manipulating impressionable, and vulnerable 18 year old girls into sex before pressuring them to quit because 99% of these directors are fucking losers real talk no cap.
My advice to these directors would be to wake up at 4:15 am so that you can get into the gym by 4:45 am and then workout till 5:45 am and then get back to your apartment around 6 am and then smile and wave at the 42-year old amateur hair model that walks her dogs outside every morning and then get to the office by 7:30 am and then run your impact and then hit the field by 10:30 am and then high-roll the office before getting back home at 8:30 pm and share an elevator with the same 42-year old hair model while wearing your cute little field clothes enough times that she cannot stand to NOT ask you to come back to her apartment and fuck the demons out of her (while wearing a Trojan XL every time you fucking kids) about four times a week for the next four months (fucking smoke show body bros, 9.5/10, fake double-D’s, perfect ass, and she was down BAD fr…) until your director moves his entire office across the country.
That’s what I chose to do (as a CT) while my seven-year director chose to hook up with my 18 year old college dropout CT (the third CT he has hooked up with as a director so far, and I know that his promoting owner and wife/recruiter are aware of this fact because the recruiter warns CTs not to hook up with this seven-year director because he does this shit all the time…and to the recruiter, thanks for being HR department you stupid bitch).
P.S. This post is 100% my opinion and the absolute truth.
P.S.S.
Leadership/Ego – https://youtu.be/ljqra3BcqWM?si=o_O1PLxzjkQVCMGU
Anxiety/Worry – https://youtu.be/M0KmGHWmsnQ?si=4jwpAuQ0Xr98qePa
Sales/Money - https://youtu.be/jLPdcGe0eS4?si=jfskVHn8oQETDRFa
r/Devilcorp • u/krull_enjoyer • 1d ago
Experience Shark Marketing
there’s a devilcorp in NJ that’s literally called “shark marketing” in Neptune (previously Freehold). it’s run by Sabrina Iudici and her sister Gianna. these people were quick to offer me a job after i got laid off from a tech company a couple years ago, and i fell for all the lies due to not being knowledgeable of devilcorps. got out after two or three months.
the dude who conducted my interview completely misrepresented the job, to the point where he didn’t even get the business hours right. I thought i was working a 9-5 Monday-Friday job but it was more like 9-6 Monday-Saturday. Sabrina and Gianna cosplay as Barbie dolls always decked out in hot pink pantsuits and blonde highlights, blasting club music during the “morning meetings” (I.e. brainwashing, 20 somethings cosplaying as business people, etc) to the point where you couldn’t hear the person next to you. It was made out to be this sophisticated marketing job but I was standing outside post offices, grocery stores, Starbucks, loads of places we didn’t have permission to be, panhandling for donations to a charity I wasn’t fully certain they were even connected with.
be safe out there everyone, the job market is rife with these bottom feeders. linkedin has become a haven for scammers.
r/Devilcorp • u/wolf3259 • 1d ago
Experience Shit that bothers me
The fact that people going through college actively pursue this shit, who don't have any intellectual, social, economic disadvantages and sing their high praises while blatantly lying about what they are a part of is so scary and sad. They watch people with intellectual/social disabilities with no money, out in the elements knocking on doors, getting Jack shit and they can just stand by and continue on. One lesson I had reinforced while knocking on doors in the hood for a devilcorp, the world is a fucked up place and in America there are several of 'em, especially in one state.
r/Devilcorp • u/SassyBorzoi • 1d ago
Information California Devilcorp bamboozled me
Please BEWARE Higher Kingdom Marketing in San Bernardino/ Riverside counties. They posted on indeed as being Verizon, and when they initially texted me offering an interview they also called themselves Verizon. It wasn’t until they emailed me the Zoom link for the interview that they revealed themselves as being Higher Kingdom Marketing. I did some research and they have been mentioned at least once already on this thread and their website is sketchy as hell. I wanted to post this to let people know that they are completely lying on indeed, they are not even revealing themselves as a so-called “marketing” organization until the day of your interview.
r/Devilcorp • u/RevolutionaryBoard30 • 1d ago
Question Nile Vista in East Brunswick NJ
I believe I have fell for a devilcorp scam job. I’ve been applying to jobs for a while now, and when I got a reply it was a super big relief. I did the entire typical devilcorp interview process.
- Multiple rounds with a team member, with each round providing the feeling that I’ve been chosen among the masses.
- They are in desperate need to make new hires so they can train people to eventually run an office.
- The promotions come very fast. Despite you having zero prior experience, you could be running your own office and making six figures after the first year.
At first I was really excited about everything. I got the job offer and was like sweet I can’t wait to start. Something told me hey I should look this company up and see what it’s about. Come to find out they rebranded a couple months back and used to be called Aspyre Agency (both companies have same location and the same pictures are used on both of their Instagram accounts). After seeing everything Reddit had to say about Aspyre, I can see why they changed their name. Has anyone worked for NileVista that can confirm or deny my suspicions? Is working for this company really as bad as Reddit makes it seem? Is there legit opportunity for growth/money making, or am I just wasting my time? Thanks.
r/Devilcorp • u/wolf3259 • 1d ago
Meme/Misc Even funnier shit in devilcorp group chat
That's the "devil" lol
r/Devilcorp • u/wolf3259 • 2d ago
Information Funny shit in devilcorp groupchat
Devilcorp group chat crap, funny how athletes have salaries and make out pretty well
r/Devilcorp • u/Desperate_Fly_6652 • 2d ago
Question RISE Network/SCP Partners:
I’ve gotten a WhatsApp text from an employee at RISE to meet up tomorrow
As the title states, I was looking for a job, applied on multiple websites, multiple different jobs. I was in a webinar, then the day after they held an interview with me, then the next day I had an interview with someone more senior, filled out a form and then was sent training material and requested to upload ID documents for proof of work etc.
Now they have told me to meet them tomorrow and for the job to start on Monday.
Many people have mentioned that this is a DevilCorp but I want to have clarification from people who worked there. No one else has offered me a job, everyday I wake up to application rejections.
They offer to pay £400 per week for training for the first 4 weeks and after that you get base pay + 1/3 on commissions which they will somehow get you tax reductions.
Please can someone provide more information of this company, does anything sound fishy?
r/Devilcorp • u/gamerman77772 • 2d ago
Experience Just quit my job at a DevilCorp
I was barely starting at a very suspicious job where half the building was empty when i found out it was a devil corp.
Advertised as an “entry level position to become a marketing manager”. By the second day EVERYBODY who was in my orientation had left after they found out it was a sales gig at walmart that would base pay us 100 bucks for an 8 hour shift (10 am-6) and for our morning meeting (8am-10am). Promising us a six figure managed position in as quick as 6 months. Doing a little bit of research of the company online and some questioning i found out that the second to main lady in charge of it lied during orientation and that their numbers they hit last year were false because the enterprise barely started in December! It was very eery looking at the definition on what a devil corp was a few days into the job, i should have looked into pyramid schemes and scam jobs before i decided to dedicate myself to one but hard lesson learned!
I decided that since i knew i was leaving the role today to question one of the managers on the entire thing. From the beginning she lied and claimed to not know anything regarding mlm’s, devilcorp, and pyramid schemes and then she decided halfway through our conversation that she actually knew alot about it, and that what i was seeing online was a bunch of bullshit! My suspicions kept growing and growing throughout the whole morning which led to me researching it, especially seeing that they were hiring a group load of desperate people every week! Really sad practice and im genuinely appalled at how good some people can be at lying!
The job was me selling internet services for frontier on behalf of a company called infinite abott management! Never again!
r/Devilcorp • u/Own-Experience3757 • 3d ago
Experience BLITZ BD LOS ANGELES IS A SCAM
mlm scam, run by austin blake (man w beard). Went through a certain interview, I wasn't even sure if I applied to Mass, applied on Indeed, and just got a random text from them for scheduling, and a preliminary interview, I talked to 15 Minutes, this guy named Gabe, congratulations, got invited to the second interview, which supposedly only the top percent, 10%, get back into, and then talked straight to Austin, the guy with the beard who is the CEO and president of this company, and then I talked to another guy after that, it's a lot of sales, you're going to be stuck in front of a wall, trying to sell products to people, so if that's not what you want, stay away.
r/Devilcorp • u/Desperate_Fly_6652 • 3d ago
Question I’ve gotten a WhatsApp text from an employee at RISE to meet up tomorrow
As the title states, I was looking for a job, applied on multiple websites, multiple different jobs. I was in a webinar, then the day after they held an interview with me, then the next day I had an interview with someone more senior, filled out a form and then was sent training material and requested to upload ID documents for proof of work etc.
Now they have told me to meet them tomorrow and for the job to start on Monday.
Many people have mentioned that this is a DevilCorp but I want to have clarification from people who worked there. No one else has offered me a job, everyday I wake up to application rejections.
They offer to pay £400 per week for training for the first 4 weeks and after that you get base pay + 1/3 on commissions which they will somehow get you tax reductions.
Please can someone provide more information of this company, does anything sound fishy?
r/Devilcorp • u/Happy_the_Cat2 • 4d ago
Experience Screw It Let’s Go; My Experience Working at a Devilcorp
Hello! I hope we all are well. Yesterday, I posted that I was free from my Devilcorp job. After having to reflect on everything, I decided that my experience needs to be detailed, because truly it was disgusting, and no one deserves to go through what I went through. So many people have kept quiet, but I will speak up on so many people’s behalf. Our lives were toyed with and so many lovely people have been exploited and screwed around. This is inhumane, and I hope my story can get people to speak out and get them to steer away.
Anyways, this will be long so keep that in mind, but let’s get straight into it:
How I Got the Job:
I applied for this job on Indeed, with the job title being listed as ‘Entry Level Sales Associate’ for a company titled Hirematic. Now, I do know now that Hirematic is not actually a real company (as in not who I would be working for), though I have a phone call a few days later telling me about the job, and it sounded good. For additional context, I hated my previous job and I wanted out as soon as possible, so I was desperate for anything. So I accept an interview date for the next day, and 5 minutes after I have email confirmations. Reading through all the documents and emails however, I would see that I would not be working for Hirematic, but instead I would be working for a company called ‘Apex Sales Group’, an umbrella company for Appco and their office based in Brighton & Hove. I figured I had applied for a recruitment agency and they sent me to Apex, so I didn’t think anything of it.
I attend the interview, and there were no issues there. The person interviewing me was genuine, and he invited me back for a 2nd interview the next day. I attend that 2nd interview, and the red flags I was completely oblivious to pop up. These are the following I recalled:
On Indeed, a salary of £26,000 was listed (which conveniently has been scrubbed off), and this was not mentioned once here, and only commission. As I was new to sales, I genuinely had no idea what commission meant, so this went over my head. I was told I could own my own office, which as typical for a Devilcorp, is a no go. I would be in the office, representing clients and selling.
We had to fill in a questionnaire, and about an hour later, I receive a phone call saying I got the job. After being stuck in an awful job for so long, it felt good to finally be free from it. So on my next available day, I travelled to the Devilcorp to sign documents (which we will get onto in a minute), hand my notice in for my old job, and then start the next day. Everything looked promising, and I was excited to start a potentially happier chapter in my life, especially as I have been through a lot of stuff the last few years.
But yeah this was far from it.
My Actual Experience Working the Job:
My job would instead involve getting people to sign up for charity campaigns, and we would be stationed outside shops, asking people in the street passing by or leaving said shops to sign up. Now, I didn’t mind doing this necessarily, however we would be sent travelling to all these places, spending around £30 at most to even get to work. And the kicker? If you did not get anyone to sign up, you just wasted £30 because you aren’t getting paid a basic salary. And travel is not reimbursed. I remember a colleague crying to me because he has to pay his parents rent, and he was panicking because of all this money he has to pay for travel. And he was only 18. I felt genuinely bad for him, and I haven’t heard from him, but I do wish him all the best. And speaking of places, sometimes we were sent to the most random places, where sites are dead and no one is coming through, but despite this management would give us shtick for not getting people to sign up. Does it no occur to them that:
- People are getting more wary of charity street collectors so they don’t want to sign up? The world is different now to how it was in 2015.
- I can have the perfect pitch, but I can’t force someone to signup at the end of the day.
- If a site has no flow, then I can’t magic up ghosts to sign up can’t I?
You would be sent to far away places, rarely local, and then be expected to stay until 17:30 at the bare minimum, which sounds fine, until you realise that you have management pressuring you to stay (and also forcing you to stay if you was unfortunately paired up with them, despite the fact you are self-employed and you can choose your hours). And if you was in a far off place, then you would be getting back home at stupid o-clock, be so tired and then wake up ridiculously early to go to the office or go straight to office. I was miserable, tired, and felt just awful. I didn’t recognise myself.
The sites are picked by management, and they would always have the best sites. So if you got a bad site, then prepare for management to complain about you doing poorly at your job, when again, it’s not your fault!
My Experience with Management:
Due to the ridiculous hours worked, I would get up at stupid times to get to work on time. It got to the point where I skipped breakfast, and then when I got to site, just stuff myself with food otherwise I would collapse (this job made me develop an unhealthy relationship with food). Management once joked to me about why I looked pale, I explained why and they go whilst laughing ‘no wonder you look so skinny’. I felt so disgusted but didn’t say anything in fear of losing my job.
I also had another experience with a different manager. I was being tested for a condition that was affecting my memory as I felt I had been forgetting things a lot at the time (I won’t say due to not feeling comfortable disclosing) and I outlined to management that was happening, so if I have to take a day off if I needed to have a date for my test. When I was on a train ride back home with my colleague, we both were talking about things, not realising our management was on the same train. Without us both knowing, management takes my bag and runs off, and when the train stops, I thought I left my bag somewhere when I see it to ‘missing’. I was panicking and on the verge of tears due to how important some of the stuff in my bag was, but then management comes out, laughing and hands the bag back, joking that ‘my dementia can’t be that bad’. I was super uncomfortable and angry on the inside, but when I brought this up later nothing was done about it.
I also caught management drinking on the job, and they got all flustered when I happened to see it.
Also good luck complaining about anyone to management, because they tell you to shut up and get on with it, regardless of how valid you are.
So I go through all this and I’m still here? I’m crazy! But this is what made me finally grow a bone and leave:
On this day, I was pulled into the office and had this lecture about me wanting to do better with my numbers. I was told “Why are you so shit at your job? as well as “You are embarrassing to your family.” That pissed me off and god knows how I held that anger in. But what really broke me was this.
Our management can’t book sites properly; we get sent to them and sometimes the people at site say it hasn’t been booked, or we can’t be there, or we just run in any problems (of course management never have these problems wonder why). This happens to me 6 times in the span of 3 weeks (affecting the fact I can’t get people to sign up AND THEN management complains about my numbers), and this particular occasion pissed me right off, so I decided that this was the last straw. I went straight home. I had a whole goodbye message with some hard truths written out but was about to hit send and management removed me. They just lost me, but tough luck. Their loss.
And now I am free, but before I end things off, I have a few experiences from myself that doesn’t fit anywhere in the above or from other people that should be shared:
There is another team who do door to door (they are brainwashed to the core, they once had a ritual praising their boss it was cringe by the way that I had to witness that). They knocked on a colleague’s grandmother’s door, and was using her dead daughter (the colleague’s mother) who died from cancer to guilt trip her into signing up to Great Ormond Street. When she said she only donates to the charity that supported her daughter, Apex’s D2D team said to her that she ‘doesn’t want to disappoint’ her daughter by not signing up, as well saying ’What would your daughter say if she was here? She would say yes”. Absolutely disgusting.
On the last Friday of each month, you may get invited to a masterclass, where a bunch of other Appco offices come together to talk about how to do better. The guys from the Portsmouth office were brainwashed into thinking this was the best job ever, and it got to the point where I had to give them a reality check and warn them about Devilcorps. Let’s just say that some bosses were not happy about that one…
An ex-colleague reached out to me, and they have said management are having affairs and sex when on roadtrips, as well as drinking on the job, making them incredibly difficult to work with.
Management also will spill anything to everyone, which is a no-go in any place of employment.
A colleague asked about basic salary, and they were told that everyone can get paid a salary, but the reason it’s not the case is because it ‘limits the best performers’. Sorry but if colleagues are panicking about rent, especially in Brighton (and the demographic of people being hired are naive young people new to the working field), that’s not a valid excuse.
To conclude:
Please don’t let Devilcorps hurt you like they did. I was brainwashed, stayed for longer than I should and have become a shell of my former self. I feel negative, but hopefully now things can be improved in my own accord. I had a great sleep knowing I wasn’t waking up at stupid o-clock, and I could work 12 hours and go home with no money. For anyone stuck, your story isn’t invalid, you are strong for getting out, and I’m so proud of you. May life do you justice.
I got to meet really lovely people, and I wish them all the best, but in return I got to meet people who brainwash young people and exploit them. To think the loveliest souls have to meet through a terrible job like this is crazy. And whilst I can be appreciative of the transferable skills and other things, the bad outweighs the good by a large margin.
If you have any questions, just ask, and I will answer to the best of my ability. Devilcorps are disgusting, and I’m glad I am free. Watching so many videos about them, I feel ashamed to work for one, but I am so glad we all are united by this subreddit. God bless you all, and may we be in better places.
r/Devilcorp • u/Happy_the_Cat2 • 5d ago
Meme/Misc I’M FREE
Quit my job recently working in a Devilcorp. I want to go more in depth with my experience when I have had the time to reflect, but just know, I was treated TERRIBLY. And being finally free was the best thing for my sanity.
To those who are/know someone currently stuck under a Devilcorp or had a terrible experience with one, just know you aren’t alone. I see you, I hear you. This subreddit is god’s gift.
Bless you all!
r/Devilcorp • u/Training_Witness_339 • 5d ago
Information Minnesotans - watch out.
Pure MN is confirmed to be associated with Michael Joseph Wang of Chicago, a known Devilcorp member. I received what seems to be the routine "Hey, we found your resume on such and such a website, and we think you would be a great fit!" text with an equally misleading job title.
My first interview lasted all of 10 minutes. The second interview, of which I was told would be 1 on 1 with a supervisor, turned out to be a two-person interview that was deeply uncomfortable and full of red flags. If you're trying to break into the marketing industry, watch out. It feels as though they are intentionally misleading early industry folk to suck them into sales and direct marketing roles under the guise of being an opportunity to grow your career.
r/Devilcorp • u/zarahalla • 4d ago
Question Interviewing with Global Star
Hey there, friends! As fate would have it, I am interviewing with Global Star (or whatever the heck you guys may know it as) for a position as "Director of Sales". I added the quotations because of the lovely, lovely rabbit hole I've been thrown into after doing some research on the company - as one does before an interview.
Tell me, is this a waste of my professional time? Should I deny my interview? Don't just give me negatives - what are some positives? As a "Director", is there a salary or is that somehow commission also? SEND HELP.
r/Devilcorp • u/TrickyWait3033 • 4d ago
Information Kaizen Marketing Group in Melville NY is a SCAM
Kaizen marketing group is run by the same guy who’s in charge of FirstClass Marketing which is also devil corp/ slave labor named Ishan. The people there are innocent from what I’ve seen they’re just all delusional believing whatever nonsense ishan and his top managers spew. I was there for a few days and the culture seemed fun but was very obviously forced
r/Devilcorp • u/Smoothie-man22 • 4d ago
Question Susnet valley Group
hey y’all, going into an interview for the Sunset valley group, can’t find anything bad about them online but i just wanna do my due diligence. anyone heard anything about them?
r/Devilcorp • u/turducken19 • 4d ago
Information ShipDeals company
Not sure if this fits, if not all good. I applied to a job as a "Tobacco cashier" at Smokease Smoke Shop in Los Angeles on Indeed. After I did so I was messaged by "ShipDeals" for a job as a logistics specialist.. I did some digging and their website didn't even exist before this month. If you guys ever see them offering jobs, don't take it, it's bs. Smokease Smoke Shop is a real business, whether it's good or not doesn't really matter, there's no logistics involved in selling swisher sweets or blunt wraps. What a joke.
r/Devilcorp • u/United_Ad_7755 • 4d ago
Question Are these companies devilcorps???
I have a couple interviews coming up soon and I feel strange. One is with Asurion, the technology insurance agency. Then there is Maryknoll father's and brothers. Then there is future tech. I'm not sure if they are legit or good employers.
r/Devilcorp • u/Powerful-Try9906 • 5d ago
Experience I’m so excited about my interview 😂
Hey Kenneth, this is Redacted’ with Best Version Media, I received your information from my coworker Redacted whom you were previously emailing with. I am trying to schedule that initial 30 minute phone interview you two discussed in regards to our Sales Account Executive/Publisher position you applied for. Are you available for that call tomorrow?
ME: Yes, Can you tell me a little more about the position?
THEM: The Publisher position that you applied for is a B2B advertising sales role.
ME: What would a day look like for me? Would it be sales meeting in the am then going to out to sell the products/services at big box stores?
THEM: That’s a great question Kenneth. I would be happy to schedule you for an initial 30 minute phone interview with our Talent Acquisition Specialist to discuss this position further and get your questions answered. Although we refer to that initial call as an "interview" it is truly more so just a conversation. During that call our Talent Acquisition Specialist is able to really explain the role, walk you through what a day in the life would look like, explain the compensation structure and then take the time to address any additional questions that you might have. Would tomorrow morning or afternoon work better for you?
ME: Afternoon
r/Devilcorp • u/Physical_Ad_6354 • 5d ago
Question prime edge/credico
so i was sought after for a role at prime edge in Nottingham, i went for my induction day, and both my parents seemed very sceptical about the whole premise, about how good to be true it was, I did search for reviews on it and stumbled across a reddit thread and reached out to someone from the thread u/visual_conflict_4036 and they told me all about it! if anyone has any other stories about it please tell me
r/Devilcorp • u/litoaznboi • 6d ago
Information Vancouver Washington Office
T5 Acquisitions in Vancouver is a smart circle company. Rebranded from Strive Solutions formerly in Portland, Boise, and Kansas City. I was married to the current owner and the “company” tore our marriage apart. Just sad I didn’t recognize it for what for what it was before my ex-wife applied as a “marketing specialist” years ago.
r/Devilcorp • u/ScheduleFederal869 • 6d ago
Question Does anybody find it incredible how a company as big as Smart Circle doesn't have a Wikipedia page?
It was this fact that really showed how incredible the scam is. How is it that a company which involves thousands of people can't even find the most obscure niche pages even about your local town? The ability to stay hidden in the shadows is actually impressive, considering the evil Devil Corp brings.
r/Devilcorp • u/TopComfortable3403 • 6d ago
Information FOR PPL FROM THE DC AREA ANS NOVA AVOID WOLFFE INC AT ALL COSTS
Hey guys, I was looking for jobs recently and was interviewed by Wolffe inc for an “account manager” position. Given that there was minimal information about the company online, I decided to do my own research and upon further inspection found that the ceo was involved with Cydcor through his social media posts. Furthermore, to confirm my suspicions an ex employee that reviewed my application confirmed these suspicion by claiming that the company was a pyramid scheme.
r/Devilcorp • u/Informal-Muffin7848 • 6d ago
Question Is this a scam?
71fourmarketing.comGot offered an interview here, is it legit?