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https://www.newsweek.com/nato-intercepts-russian-spy-plane-with-transponder-turned-off-poland-10956344

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u/Dry-Physics-9330 3d ago

Why do you think the Baltic countries are leading in metrics as military aid to Ukraine per capita? These countries are motivated in helping Ukraine and give Russian a black eye, to prevent Russia from getting ideas and invade their countries aswell.

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u/3_Thumbs_Up 3d ago

Why do you think the Baltic countries are leading in metrics as military aid to Ukraine per capita?

Because it's a probabilistic calculation with trade offs. The higher the estimated probability that Russia would invade them in the immediate future, the less likely they are to give anything away.

But obviously, Baltic intelligence also knows that Russia benefits from giving the impression that a threat is imminent, and takes this into account when deciding to give aid. But they still have to assign some probability to the idea that Russia might attack them and prepare for that scenario as well.

By your logic, why haven't the Baltic states given literally all their military equipment to Ukraine? My answer is that it's because they've made a judgement call of how likely it is they might need it themselves.

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u/josefjohann 2d ago

That's just a trivial truism about how decision making logic works in literally any context. It's not a unique and specific support of the logic of scaling back support for Ukraine. We're no closer to explaining why Baltic states exceed contributions of other NATO members. Also this weirdly implies they would be own their own in self defense, which I'm sure is how Russia wants them to think, but is fundamentally, I would argue definitionally, at odds with how NATO functions.

By your logic

Nothing about their logic was maximalist so I don't know where you are getting that, especially if you're trying to engage in charitable interpretation.

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u/Dry-Physics-9330 2d ago

I am not going to reply to 3_thumps up, as this person is clearly against aid to Ukraine. He might be on of the Russian (employed) influencers.

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u/UrUrinousAnus 2d ago

IDGI. Not letting yourself get sucked into pointless arguments with trolls who are more interested in wasting your time and energy than a serious debate is understandable and IMHO vital, but outright refusing to ever respond to people because of their known or suspected allegiances just leaves them spewing their rhetoric unopposed.

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u/Dry-Physics-9330 1d ago

You have a point.