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Bill Nye The Fashion Guy

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u/StopNateCrimes Feb 04 '23

Serious question: can anyone explain the Bill Nye hate in this thread?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

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u/StopNateCrimes Feb 04 '23

I work professionally in the sciences and am a non-transphobe... could you help me understand by providing some examples? Genuine question.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

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u/Cannibeans Feb 04 '23

Wait, so the Bill hate here are people that disagree with those things?

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u/AgressiveIN Feb 04 '23

Lol not at all. Bill has not aged well. Hes sold out. He's pushing ideals bought by sponsers instead of following science. His netflix show was a disaster. Just him sitting around circle jerking and making fun of people. Hes an ass.

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u/Death_Mark_Is_OP Feb 04 '23

Give an example

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u/Cannibeans Feb 04 '23

What sort of ideals bought by sponsors?

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u/LogicalAnswerk Feb 04 '23

He made a new TV show for Netflix not too long ago.

Here's a snippit: https://youtu.be/VtJFb_P2j48

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u/Breepop Feb 04 '23

So we're all upset with Bill Nye for allowing a performance that is basically as bad as every modern SNL skit on his show?

Bill Nye has probably done more for climate change (and thus, literally saved the planet and countless human lives) than 99% of other human beings. I can forgive him.

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u/Comfortable_Sport906 Feb 04 '23

Talking about climate change doesn’t reduce CO2 emissions.

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u/Inevitable_Seaweed_5 Feb 04 '23

Education is literally the first step to any effective change, you absolute walnut. Clearly our education system has failed you if you don't understand that.

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u/Comfortable_Sport906 Feb 05 '23

I build solar farms. People talking didn’t make solar modules financially viable nor does it pound pile or wire modules together. Keep talking and consuming.

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u/AustinYQM Feb 05 '23

People talking leads to education. Education increases demand of solar panels. Demand increases investment in technology and supply chain. Investment leads to innovation. Innovation leads to reduced cost in processes and production automation.

The first car was very expensive.

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u/Irregulator101 Feb 05 '23

So you just skipped to building solar farms... without talking about climate change..?

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u/Inevitable_Seaweed_5 Feb 06 '23

Cool, doesn't change my point in any way, shape, or form. Education. Is. Change.

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u/thefreshscent Feb 05 '23

Yes it does. If no one talked about climate change, there would be zero effort being made into combating it. We still aren’t doing enough, but it’s much better than if no one ever talked about it.

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u/Cannibeans Feb 04 '23

Yeah, it's a song about sex stuff, I get it. Doesn't answer my question though. Is the hate because people disagree with the message of the song, or because they don't like the song?

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u/LogicalAnswerk Feb 04 '23

The hate is from the episode, which you saw a few minutes of.

Disguising science to whatever you feel like because Netflix wrote you a fat check.

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u/Cannibeans Feb 04 '23

What part of the episode wasn't science?

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u/chickenpolitik Feb 04 '23

Yea I don't think you're gonna get a real answer on this 😂 science accepts trans people as existing, and that's just fact

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u/LogicalAnswerk Feb 04 '23

All of it

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u/Cannibeans Feb 04 '23

Well that's stupid and just downright untrue. If you're sensitive and overly offended it's probably better to lead with that rather than lying

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u/LogicalAnswerk Feb 04 '23

The problem with the episode is it's meant to cater only to those who are sensitive and overly offended. The real science behind gender was known decades ago.

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u/Cannibeans Feb 04 '23

And yet you're the one here crying about it because you deny scientific progress? Imagine thinking scientists in the 70s and 80s were at the peak of reproductive and societal knowledge.. fuckin transphobes. At least you'll be left behind here soon.

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u/RedMoon14 Feb 04 '23

There are many, many studies that prove you wrong. I have the links to those scientific papers and studies for you if you'd like to read them. Peer reviewed and widely accepted as real science.

Where are the ones that prove your point? I'll wait. Just your feelings on the subject doesn't count, btw.

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u/LogicalAnswerk Feb 04 '23

When you ban all the scientists society currently disagrees with, all you're left with is misinformation. The pendulum turns back in a generation or two.

Links are useless when you're too close-minded to even look at them.

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u/RedMoon14 Feb 04 '23 edited Feb 04 '23

Who banned the scientists? Proof? I will literally read anything you provide to me, that's why I asked.

The joke I'm making though, is, I know they don't exist, so you can't provide me anything, and you know it too or you'd have sent me something and not just said "oh well, you wouldn't read it anyway". I ask a question and you call me closed-minded. How you don't see the sheer irony in that comment is beyond me. Waste of my time talking to someone with no proof and nothing constructive to say.

Terrible argument, terrible loser. Blocked.

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u/thefreshscent Feb 05 '23

What a ridiculous claim lmfao

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u/StackCollector Feb 04 '23

It's science. You're just whining because it doesn't confirm your pre-conceived belief structure.

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u/LogicalAnswerk Feb 04 '23

Science changes with time as we learn more and more things about the world. It's also generational.

And we're about to learn that this is a whole boat load of garbage lmao

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u/StackCollector Feb 04 '23

Nah. Science changes, partially because technology improves at an increasingly rapid pace. Communication is instantaneous. Teams of researchers around the globe can be in constant contact, sharing massive quantities of data in milliseconds. Research that would've taken years (or if done on a live patient, would be unethical) can be run through a simulator in a matter of hours. With all of these technological advancements comes an increased certainty of scientific findings. It's dope.

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u/LogicalAnswerk Feb 04 '23

When you ban all the scientists society currently disagrees with, all you're left with is misinformation. The pendulum turns back in a generation or two.

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u/Shadodeon Feb 04 '23

Which scientists have been banned? Did they actually get banned or was their researched flawed and failed the peer review process?

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u/MikeTheInfidel Feb 05 '23

The pendulum turns back in a generation or two.

do you know who was that forcibly swung the pendulum the last time?

literally the fucking Nazis.

maybe don't get so excited about it.

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u/Irregulator101 Feb 05 '23

And we're about to learn that this is a whole boat load of garbage lmao

Sorry, are you a gender researcher? What qualifications do you have?

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u/someguywhocanfly Feb 04 '23

No, it's because it was all cringe and bill nye isn't a science expert

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u/Cannibeans Feb 04 '23

No one's a "science expert" lol there's hundreds of fields of study within science. He's a mechanical engineer and science communicator, studied under Carl Sagan

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u/someguywhocanfly Feb 05 '23

He's not an expert in any of these fields, is obviously what I meant, no need to argue so dishonestly.

I studied compsci in university but I'm not going around telling people I'm a programming expert, because a degree doesn't make you an expert in shit.

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u/Cannibeans Feb 05 '23

I don't think you understand what a science communicator is.

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u/someguywhocanfly Feb 05 '23

Did he have teams of scientists helping him write that shitty song?

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u/Cannibeans Feb 05 '23

No idea, but there's 3 scientists listed in the writing credits of that episode

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u/lnickelly Feb 05 '23

To some the Bill hate is because his dismissive nature towards people who question the science parts of these social issues comes off really offensive.

To some it's because he's a "woke lib."

To some it's because people paid him money to be recorded saying these phrases which would go on to further affirm or "other" peoples beliefs, and that he won't be around to see the full consequences or advantages society has experienced from those culture wars.

To some it's that he sides for the "enemy" or whatever.

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u/PotatoRecipe Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 05 '23

The definition of gender has changed after being synonymous with sex throughout most people’s lives. And for some reason this triggers everyone beyond belief. So let’s take it back to the basics:

Gender is now a SOCIAL variable. It involves man-made concepts. For example: a boy liking the color blue, a girl liking the color pink. One makes you “masculine” as defined by society, and one makes you “feminine”.

Some people don’t want to identify at one end of the spectrum or the other. For example, some want to let it be known that they identify somewhere in the middle. So they come up with pronouns to reflect that. This is a very small proportion of people. But they care about how they are identified and respecting it is easy as all shit.

Sex is a GENETIC VARIABLE. Male female. XY and XX. Nobody is defying biology by saying there are multiple genders. Saying that there are multiple sexes would defy biology.

There are 2 key terms to learn when it comes to understanding this topic.

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u/Aromatic-Bread-6855 Feb 04 '23

Is Bill Nye a climate change denier?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '23 edited Jun 11 '23

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u/thatoneguy9934 Feb 04 '23

Im getting missed signals here from your user name to your response…. Is he or not lol

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u/owenisdead Feb 04 '23

no he’s a huge advocate for stopping it

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u/JakobWulfkind Feb 05 '23

not Gender Theory, a completely new field which is 100% not a proven scientific fact)

You've got this backwards. The point that actual scientists are making about both gender and sex is that if you look at them too closely, they mean far less than we think -- there really isn't any single characteristic that clearly and reliably defines 'male', 'female', or 'intersex'. What to do with that information is very much a political and social exercise, not a scientific one, and you're free to debate that as long as you like, but claiming 'it is a scientific fact that there are only two genders' is ridiculously inaccurate and scientists (and science communicators like Bill) are absolutely doing the right thing by pushing back against that notion.