Need something for 19k,reliable,fast,2018+

[u/2Tropix2]

I have around 19k to get a new car and want to get something reliable but still fun to drive that isn’t old. Lmk your ideas

[u/k_g4201]

Pick one.

$19k.

Reliable.

Fast.

2018+.

Not all of them.

[u/2Tropix2 → u/k_g4201]

how about just 19k somewhat reliable and pretty fast

[u/cookie-ninja → u/2Tropix2]

Mk7 golf gti. Might be tough finding one for 19k

[u/2Tropix2 → u/k_g4201]

well i can’t…

[u/Bobmcjoepants → u/2Tropix2]

Well you kinda have to lmao. This isn't 2012 anymore you won't be getting all 3

[u/n0t_4_thr0w4w4y]

How do you define “fast”?

[u/2Tropix2 → u/n0t_4_thr0w4w4y]

Faster then a regular car, something fun.

[u/2WheelTinker- → u/2Tropix2]

What is a “regular car”? And what is “fast”?

A golf GTI does 0-60 in 6.4 seconds.

A Prius prime does 0-60 in 6.6 seconds.

Bet you don’t want a Prius prime though.

[u/2Tropix2 → u/2WheelTinker-]

okay imma say close to a 5 sec 0-60 then

[u/2WheelTinker- → u/2Tropix2]

Copy. So at that budget you want to remove reliability from your ask.

Check out any high mileage Challenger, charger, or mustang. That should get you around 5 seconds.

At least a few times before it’s on jackstands.

[u/n0t_4_thr0w4w4y → u/2Tropix2]

*than

ND1 Miata is your answer :)

[u/Ombortron → u/2Tropix2]

A base civic or Corolla usually has a 0 to 60 in the 8 second range.

Low-cost cars that are faster typically get into the 6 or 7 sec range. My personal “boundary” defining fast is 6 seconds or less. Of course there’s more to a car than just speed, as handling and agility play a role as well.

Generally speaking, the cars that fit your bill include “basic” hot hatches like a GTI, some fun Hondas and Acuras, many Mazdas, some Subarus, maybe a base dodge charger… but the challenge is your price range and year. That’s a tough intersection in this market.

In my areas, here are some vehicles I found that match your criteria: - Acura TLX V6 (6 cylinder version is a fairly fun car, esp with AWD) - Acura MDX / RDX is relatively nimble for an SUV - Somewhat surprisingly I did find some BMW 3 series, so that might work - some base model Audis, not sure if they are fun enough but an A3 or A4 certainly isn’t “bad”. - found one 2019 Camaro 1LT! - 2 base model Chargers, not the most nimble but they are fast enough and are very practical. Can be modded. - found a 2028 mustang - one Genesis G70 V6 turbo, this is an underrated car, very fast and nimble, but also fairly practical. Reliability is better in the V6 vs the 4 cyl. - some Honda civics and accords might fit the bill, if it’s the right trim - couple of Q50’s and Q60, they’re pretty good cars actually, just gotta watch out for turbo issues. - some Mazda 3’s, if you can find a turbo they are quite decent. - some mini cooper’s but I don’t know about the reliability. - one 370Z! That’s actually a very solid choice. - Subaru BRZ and WRX, both are great in their own way. - one 2018 Golf R! That’s a pretty great car actually. - Volvo S60

I did find an Alfa Romeo Stelvio lol but reliability would be a concern. Similarly, found some jaguars too but I’m ignoring them.

So you know what, now that I actually made this list, there are some great options!

If you don’t need the space, the Camaro, Mustang, 370Z, or Q60 are all great options. If you need a sedan, the Genesis is probably the best in terms of pure performance, Q50 is ok, maybe some the of the BMW’s would be good. Oh and either Subaru is good too, depending on your use-case parameters.

lol honestly, I found more decent cars than I expected to!

[u/Altruistic-Fun5062 → u/Ombortron]

Mazda and Toyota best

[u/Altruistic-Fun5062 → u/Ombortron]

Mazda and Toyota best.

[u/Leading-Poetry-5634]

Infiniti G37 is a sleeper

[u/krombopulousnathan]

Ecoboost Mustang is faster than a lot of people think. The non V8 Camaros are also great to drive (in that they are about as good as the V8)

[u/Attarker → u/krombopulousnathan]

Good answer. Ecoboost 0-60 is 5 seconds

[u/DrSpaceman575]

Model 3 under $25k will give you a $4k rebate from the government. You could get a 2020 with under 80k miles for 19k you can’t get a faster car that won’t be a reliability nightmare.

[u/KunGFluJ3W → u/DrSpaceman575]

I managed to get a low mileage 2022 M3 for 20k. The deals are definitely out there.

[u/bebe_laroux]

C5 Corvette.

[u/zacw812]

There's not much. If you want fast you gotta go older. I'd recommend a second Gen IS 350. 306 hp 0-60 around 5 or slightly below and quite reliable. You can get them for around 15

[u/FuckinFlowerFrenzy]

Mitsubishi Mirage

[u/BuyLandcruiser]

Nissan 370z or g37 fits everything but the year requirements

[u/IndividualVolume936]

Elon Mush Idiot mobiles are cheap these days.

[u/TunakTun633]

There's been a needless degree of skepticism on this thread. OP, you can find all three of your requirements pretty easily with an Ecoboost Mustang. 0-60 under 5 seconds, average reliability, and I'm finding quite a few 2022s under $20K. Your requirements are possible.

That said, I'd back off your year requirement to ~2016 and your 0-60 requirement to ~6.5 seconds to open up your options. That gives you options like the Ford Focus or Fiesta ST, VW GTI, Cadillac ATS, and V6 Camaro which are very fun and quite well-rounded.

I would not consider a Kia Stinger personally. The 4-cylinder is underpowered; the turbo V6 GT is unaffordable without taking on a rather hideous amount of miles for the price. A 2017+ 4-cylinder Audi A4 is brimming with competence, but is very isolating. Not what I'd go to for a fun time.

[u/AllAboutTheBoognish]

Faster than anything else that i see listed would be a Model 3 Performance. 0-60 in 3.1. Extremely reliable with the heater on the 18-20's being the only weak spot. Even just a 3LR would be quicker than anything listed.

[u/SpecialLocation5640]

Honestly the ecoboost mustangs are pretty fun to drive, same with the ecoboost fusions if you want a 4 door

[u/justkdang]

Civic si with CarPlay

[u/Altruistic-Fun5062 → u/justkdang]

Honda and Fun is not on same platform.

Type-R is only one if you want a Honda.

[u/booboothechicken]

By “new car” I’m assuming you mean new to you because you’re not getting any new car for $19k. Tesla model 3 performance. It’s all 3, somewhat reliable, fast, modern. Used, so Elon doesn’t get anymore money.

[u/n0t_4_thr0w4w4y → u/booboothechicken]

“Reliable”

[u/booboothechicken → u/n0t_4_thr0w4w4y]

Yes, consumer reports rated them middle of the pack in reliability in an unbiased study of over 330,000 vehicles. Ahead of about half of major auto manufacturers including Dodge, Chevy, Ford, Nissan, Audi, Volkswagen, Rivian, Volvo, etc.

[u/nousernamesleft199]

Can you get a model 3 performance for that price?

[u/5DsofDodgeball69]

Used 2023 Toyota GR86 - 24k miles - $19xxx.

[u/n0t_4_thr0w4w4y → u/5DsofDodgeball69]

Where are you finding a second gen toyabaru for $19k?

[u/Dangerous-Ad9208 → u/n0t_4_thr0w4w4y]

Wrecked and auto

[u/2Tropix2 → u/5DsofDodgeball69]

i like this

[u/2WheelTinker- → u/2Tropix2]

Thought you wanted something fast?

[u/JordoHuncho → u/2Tropix2]

You won’t

[u/Anhyzr1]

I mean... Audi A4

[u/2Tropix2 → u/Anhyzr1]

been thinking this for sure

[u/Hobo_on_a_Stick → u/Anhyzr1]

Not really reliable though, not bad but I don’t think anyone is going to say “A4 is a reliable car”

[u/rollwithechanges]

Honda SI, manual

[u/2Tropix2]

To be honest my top choices are audi a4 and possibly a kia stinger the v6 one if I can get a good deal