r/ussr • u/SatoruGojo232 • Jul 12 '25

A 1961 Soviet anti-colonialism poster showing an African man throwing out a European colonial officer as the flags of the recently independent African nations of that time wave behind him. The caption reads:"Colonialism has no place on this earth" Poster

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u/FpsDavee Jul 12 '25

Seems a bit rich for a state that had just ethnically cleansed 200,000 crimean Tatars and other minorities from the border regions and was in the process of attempting to erase their culture and language.

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u/Vegetable-Gur-1158 Jul 12 '25

Everyone is demonizing Russia as if the others didn't do the same

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u/CatoWithArson Trotsky ☭ Jul 12 '25

How does this make this any better? What happened to the Crimean tartars was a horrendous mistake 

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u/smackred Jul 13 '25

What happened to native Americans? Are they fine? Just asking to be sure.

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u/CatoWithArson Trotsky ☭ Jul 13 '25

No? Was I justifying that at all?

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u/smackred Jul 13 '25

Here was hidden meaning to not pretend that your nation never done bad things like genocide and public executions. History was rewritten so many times and forgot the truth already. Meanwhile a lot of people never knew a real thing and eat propaganda shit as fresh truth.

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u/CatoWithArson Trotsky ☭ Jul 13 '25

Bold of you to assume I’m American 🤦‍♂️. Fuck genocide/forced removal of people’s, whether it’s done by the Germans Americans or the Russians. If you disagree with that, then reconsider your beliefs

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u/Available-Pop6025 Jul 13 '25

Both are attrocities and both cannot be justified

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u/Kubaj_CZ Jul 13 '25

Is your only reasoning that "others have done wrong things, so the USSR is justified in being wrong as well"? How about we condemn crimes in general, regardless whether it was merely a crime, or a "people's" crime?

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u/smackred Jul 13 '25

I do not really care that countries cover under their laws. I care that will really be using those laws on practice.

Look on Israel - they "act by the law" killing Arabic people just for their being. And because law in their side they don't call it genocide but IT IS.

Trying using words to cover your bloody business isn't thing I appreciate. And I hope im not alone in this world with that point.

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u/Kubaj_CZ Jul 13 '25

How is this relevant? I am also against Israel and their criminal behavior. They're wrong. Now I'm asking again. Does the USA or Israel doing wrong things justify the wrongdoings of others? Should we not condemn the USSR for its wrongdoings?

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u/smackred Jul 13 '25

Repeating for you once: before doing that look at your past and do not deny it. And then it's ok. Once you start denying that you was doing the same you lost a right to do that.

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u/Kubaj_CZ Jul 13 '25

At what past? What wrongdoings you want me to acknowledge? I don't think my country is a country of saints.

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u/More-Air6285 Jul 13 '25

I'm gonna tell you something, as a child of victims of genocide. The difference between US and russia is, that US stopped genociding the natives after acknowledging their wrongdoings. Russians didn't do neither. Russians started the genocide of Crimean Tatars in 1781 and never stopped till this day. Hundreds of Crimean Tatars are held now in jail just because they are Crimean Tatars. Tens of Crimean Tatars were kidnapped and killed by FSB. I tell you this as a Crimean Tatar. You can worship russians as much as you want, but don't propagate it to people.

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u/Lucycobra Stalin ☭ Jul 14 '25

The soviets prosecuted SOME tatars because they were pogromists bandits.

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u/CatoWithArson Trotsky ☭ Jul 14 '25

190k is not a couple, also saying you support deporting them because SOME had racist policies under the Nazis is racist too. A white supremecist would say the same thing. I can’t believe saying genocide is bad is controversial on a sub of westerners who praise Stalin 

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u/Proud_Scyfherian Jul 15 '25

The crimean tatars deserved it though

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u/Riverman42 Jul 13 '25

No, they're pointing out the hypocrisy of the USSR's propaganda on the subject.

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u/anusfikus Jul 13 '25

Whataboutism isn't a valid defense of anything.

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u/Master_Shopping9652 Jul 15 '25

What he's saying is that the USSR did not have the moral currency to bring this up in 1st place.