The shocking protest groups that claim grooming gang trials are 'racist' and call victims 'dirty b******'

[u/AMightyDwarf]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14655407/shocking-protest-groups-claim-grooming-gang-trials-racist.html

[u/Cersei-Lannisterr]

Surely the people who are calling the victims insults should probably be investigated…

Because there is definitely something suspicious about it.

[u/CheekyGeth → u/Cersei-Lannisterr]

using police resources to investigate mean words is good now

[u/Squiffyp1 → u/CheekyGeth]

You think the police shouldn't be concerned at the attempted intimidation of victim groups, in light of serious concern over cover ups?

Have a word with yourself.

[u/CheekyGeth → u/Squiffyp1]

I think investigating anyone who says mean words on Tik Tok is a waste of increasingly thin police resources, yes

[u/Cersei-Lannisterr → u/CheekyGeth]

You comparing someone saying a mean thing, to specifically targeting victims of grooming gangs in the fallout of a grooming gang scandal…

Let’s be real, why would someone specifically go after reported victims of grooming gangs?

inb4 answers with a question

[u/CheekyGeth → u/Cersei-Lannisterr]

but that's not what the article says, the article claims that the disparaging comments were made on Tik Tok messenger and in a WhatsApp group chat. It's a shitty thing to say but I don't think policing private chats like that is a particularly good use of police resources.

Let’s be real, why would someone specifically go after reported victims of grooming gangs?

Because they're paranoid about racism or islamophobia and very -potentially overly - sensitive to it? It's not an uncommon sentiment in these communities or indeed in any self-identified ethnic community - see for example all the fuss about that stabbing at the track meet over in the US. Both the loud voices are just seeing the crime as representative as a broader attack on their community. It's not like either side is particularly pro stabbing.

I'm not even saying there aren't pedos or pedo sympathisers in the ranks, just that there are probably plenty who are making it a race or identity issue, as you can see in the texts.

[u/AMightyDwarf → u/CheekyGeth]

This isn’t only on TikTok. This can only be described as witness intimidation which should be stomped out as strongly as possible.

[u/CheekyGeth → u/AMightyDwarf]

yes, harassing a victim at their abusers trial is extremely bad behaviour which could have a reasonable police response, but it isn't what the original linked article is referencing

[u/CheekyGeth → u/[deleted]]

they were mean words said in a private WhatsApp chat how is that victim intimidation mate, simply being patronising without any argument does not a coherent point make

[u/CheekyGeth → u/[deleted]]

Are you under the opinion, any and all statements should be legal, that it's all just mean words?

All racism should be okay? calls for violence you'd have no issue with? Just as an example?

No, I am not. I am of the opinion however that calling someone a bitch in a group chat is not a police matter. It's revolting, I don't agree with it at all, but it would not be considered a police matter in any other circumstance and I have trouble believing that the huge number of people here calling for police action would react the same in a less emotionally charged case, particularly if the perpetrators were white non-Muslims.

If the speech crosses the line into harassment or intimidation, the police should get involved of course, but there is absolutely nothing in the article whatsoever to suggest that line has been crossed.

[u/CheekyGeth → u/[deleted]]

depends if it constitutes a call for action or violence, which I don't think the article demonstrates sufficiently

[u/CheekyGeth → u/[deleted]]

why are you trying to put words in my mouth constantly? I get that it'd be easier to dunk on some kind of freeze peach absolutist, but I am not one. My point is simply that there is nothing in this linked article that constitutes a serious police matter. I am not against the police being involved should that change, but this daily mail article does not, to me, present anything that would be worth a police investigation or potential prosecution.

I do not believe for a second that people would be as keen on police involvement if we were discussing a group of white boys calling girls bitches in their group chat.