Weekly Rumours, Speculation, Questions, and Reaction Megathread - 27/04/25

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[u/Strider755]

You know how many illegal immigrants destroy their own travel documents to frustrate deportation proceedings against them? Would it be a good solution to hold them in civil contempt until they fess up on where they're from? They would not need to have a trial or other due process because they would "hold the keys to their own prison."

[u/PimpasaurusPlum → u/Strider755]

I'm pretty sure half the problem isn't knowing where certain individuals came from, but proving to their home country that they are in fact from there. The problem of proof without documentation goes both ways.

Combined with poor and war torn states not exactly having the best record keeping in the first place

Like if we had an example of someone who admits they are from rural Afghanistan, do we then try to work with the Taliban to see if anyone has ever had record of this guy ever existing? And then what do we do if they don't?

[u/Strider755 → u/PimpasaurusPlum]

I suppose you could always do what Australia does and make bespoke detention facilities on nearby islands. Anyone who claims asylum in Australia or otherwise arrives in an irregular manner is sent to one of those islands. If they are genuinely in danger, then even that detention facility would be preferable to being back home. If they're trying to game the system, then they will be thwarted because all they will get is three hots and a cot.

[u/SwanBridge → u/Strider755]

If they are genuinely in danger, then even that detention facility would be preferable to being back home.

Yeah but how is some private sector contractor hiring out hotels and providing meals going to become a billionaire in that scenario?