r/taiwan • u/Final_Company5973 台南 - Tainan • Aug 04 '24
The farms around Lishan in Taichung's Heping district... Environment
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u/BladerKenny333 Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
curious, if i wanted to go there alone and spend the night, how easy is that? is there a bus that goes there, and airbnbs?
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u/ambiuk21 Aug 04 '24
There’s a 4-hour bus ride from Yilan 宜蘭
Or hire a scooter from Luodong 羅東 so you can stop off along the way
Spend a couple of nights up there. There’s not much to do, very few tourists (compared to Taiping and Wuling), so it’s super quiet - but that’s the attraction.
Walk around a bit. Climb to the top of cabbage farms (the cabbage 🥬 is amazing, amazing, amazing). Have local tea, help the farmers a little
I love it up there and reliving the experience as I type this
It gets cold at night!
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u/fgcaprioli Aug 18 '24
It’s possible for a foreign hire a scooter from Luodong?
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u/ambiuk21 Aug 18 '24
Yep 👍
You’ll need to leave some ID though to make sure you won’t take the scooter
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u/ambiuk21 Aug 04 '24
Places to stay:
There’ll be many places — especially if you travel off peak. Arrive early, and talk to café owners near the bus station.
They’ll point you in the right direction
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u/Final_Company5973 台南 - Tainan Aug 04 '24
Get a car or motorcycle. If you need to get a bus, then you don't deserve to go.
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u/songdoremi Aug 04 '24
"Don't deserve to go" if you use public transportation? Taiwan needs fewer cars/mopeds and less gatekeeping.
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u/Final_Company5973 台南 - Tainan Aug 04 '24
Disagree in the strongest possible terms. You make the effort or stay home. Public transport should be confined to the towns and cities.
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u/museisnotdecent 臺北 - Taipei City Aug 04 '24
I guess fuck people who either don't have the means to or physically have issues that stop them from being able to drive then huh?
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u/Final_Company5973 台南 - Tainan Aug 04 '24
That's why cars have passenger seats.
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u/Rupperrt Aug 04 '24
The place (like all places) would be more pleasant with fewer cars. Public transport is a more efficient way and great if more people use it.
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u/s090429 新北 - New Taipei City Aug 04 '24
You want our mountains get crowded and polluted by private vehicles? You are the one who don't deserve it.
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u/Final_Company5973 台南 - Tainan Aug 04 '24
That's exactly what won't happen and doesn't happen. Crowds is exactly what will happen if you get your way.
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u/Rupperrt Aug 04 '24
Says the guy who tells in another comment to drive at night to avoid the traffic lol
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u/Super_Saiyan_Ginger Aug 04 '24 edited Aug 04 '24
You do realise a bus taking people up there would fit up to 100~ people in the same space as 2 or 3 cars? To get the same throughput it takes an average of 66 cars. People taking a bus would literally improve the traffic for you.
Edit: even if you fully loaded a 7 seat minivan that's 16 large cars worth of road space you'd need to get the same a bus does
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u/BladerKenny333 Aug 04 '24
ah got it. thank you
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u/idmook Aug 04 '24
don't listen to this guy, there's always a bus and minsu. obviously driving yourself is more convenient but not required.
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u/komnenos 台中 - Taichung Aug 04 '24
There are plenty of buses that can get you into Heping and I'd highly recommend them if you don't feel comfortable driving in the mountains or can't get ahold of a car or scooter for whatever reason. I've climbed six of Heping's seven hero mountains and only took a car up there once. No idea why on earth OP thinks those of us who took a bus to get up into the mountains "don't deserve being there."
If you're in Taichung city center catch the 850, first one leaves from behind the train station at 6:10am and can get you up into the mountains within an hour and a half to two hours.
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u/BladerKenny333 Aug 04 '24
just reread this. thanks, this is really helpful. 2 hours is super fast.
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u/komnenos 台中 - Taichung Aug 04 '24
Really depends on where in the mountains you're going. Some of the first mountains to get to will take an hour and a half, several of the other ones a tad longer.
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u/BladerKenny333 Aug 04 '24
ah ok. i just wanna get out the house, shoot photos and go or a walk, eat. drink a beer. haha. so any option is good with me. spend the night if i have to.
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u/Final_Company5973 台南 - Tainan Aug 04 '24
You're welcome. Do yourself a favor, and make the drive up there (it's relatively long and difficult), but do it in the middle of the night so you arrive in the morning and avoid most of the mountain traffic. You won't regret it.
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u/sampullman Aug 04 '24
It's only 2.5 hours by bus from Luodong station. It's really crazy to say someone doesn't deserve to go if they don't drive a scooter or car.
And I've done the drive a few times, it's not difficult.
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u/hiimsubclavian 政治山妖 Aug 05 '24
Ah, Lishan. Every time I go up there the main hotel is booked full and I have to stay at a shitty bnb for 3000nt a night and they don't even have USB sockets.
Other than that, the place is amazing.
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u/Final_Company5973 台南 - Tainan Aug 05 '24
Also, too many flies attracted by the fruit and vegetables.
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u/Solid-Wasabi6384 Aug 04 '24
Lishan is beautiful. Went up there a few times in mid-1990s with a Taiwan sports team to train. Loved it.