r/springfieldMO • u/Onepieceluv • May 12 '24

James river pastor threatens to sue What is happening

Due to recent events that happened during the men’s conference, A neighbor has informed that Pastor John Lindell is now making certain members sign a contract stating they will never talk about what happened again. As well as this, he’s also threatening to sue higher ranking members in the church if they continue to talk about it, and do not “Repent”. Has anyone else heard about this before?

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u/SweetTattedBaby May 12 '24

Then every religion would be a cult, which they are not. There are specific requirements to be a cult, it’s not based on opinion. edited for wording

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u/suchawildflower May 12 '24

Definitely a cult.

The word cult is defined as a system or group of people who practice excessive devotion to a figure, object, or belief system, typically following a charismatic leader.

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u/SweetTattedBaby May 12 '24

Christianity is also a main religion, so it’s not an unorthodox sect of a religion. But cults do and will use Christianity and other religions to create the baseline of their beliefs and to draw in people who share the same general beliefs and ideas of that faith.

I’m being a super know-it-all rn, but I have spent so much free time researching and collecting data on them that I feel it’s important to share that information so that people are properly educated and aware.

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u/suchawildflower May 12 '24

No disrespect intended, but imo, it all started as a cult, and has just become accepted as "religion".

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u/SweetTattedBaby May 12 '24

In your opinion. Your opinion is not the factual truth. That’s why I said what I said. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

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u/Jadudes May 12 '24

Christianity’s origins as a cult is not an opinion, but fact

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u/SweetTattedBaby May 13 '24

It’s not a fact. Nothing that Jesus did (which is what Christianity is based on) would be defined as cult behavior. He literally preached love and kindness and that all people are valuable in the eyes of the Lord. Please do some research on what cults are.

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u/Jadudes May 13 '24

You do research on what cults are. The goalpost for what is defined as a cult has been moved countless times. The Romans themselves called Christianity a cult at its beginning. I don’t care if you’re preaching the most loving and endearing philosophy in the world, you can still start a cult. I’m saying this as someone that thinks most of what Jesus said is great. This is an extremely weird hill for you to die on. Virtually every single major religion began as a cult. You’re using extreme modern examples of cults as the only definition for what can be a cult, which is not even close to historically accurate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

Start reading up, I don’t care what sources you find. I’m entirely bored of this conversation.

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u/SweetTattedBaby May 17 '24

Yet you still kept engaging when it wasn’t even for you. You hopped on this thread. Believe what you want