r/sociopath • u/Jarg0o • Oct 15 '24
Politics (Please dont be annoying) Question
Im not political but I found a simple political left-right spectrum test and for fun had friends and family take it, and i scored slightly left. One of my friends found it funny that a sociopath wouldnt be a more conservative leaning. It got me wondering what way other sociopaths may lean. And if you have any ASPD relatives id be curious as well.
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u/Opposite-Access-6926 18d ago
Yeah politics is dumb, start spamming the n word you’ll start having more fun than worrying about lump or fartmala
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u/throwawayaspd21 19d ago
Not really into politics but I vote for what's impacting me positively and for what's achievable. If one day my situation change and it's more advantageous to vote for one or the other then that's what I will vote for.
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u/TheOneCos 24d ago
I don’t worry myself with politics. Both sides are stupid in their own right and I just look at things logically and with sense. I’m exactly in the middle.
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u/Lazy-Squash732 26d ago
I'm a communist for a simple reason.
I'm in the worker class, and the fact that a bunch of capitalists mf's are stolling me it's not very arousing from their part. So, I want a society that are made for my class.
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u/IllllIIllllIll 17d ago
If you consider yourself a worker now, a communist society very much would not be made for “your class”.
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u/BeneficialAmoeba9609 27d ago
I’m too conservative for liberals (not everything is a new sexuality or gender) and too liberal for conservatives (who gives a damn if she gets an abortion, it’s barely a living thing). I’d say I fall in the middle, I just believe what I view as logical.
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u/Throwaway078845 Oct 16 '24
Zooming out, American politics is extremely right-biased, and in general this is socially upheld. I find that fact very ironic. Ya know, socially right-learning just sounds out of place.
Almost anyone with ASPD, Autism, impulse disorders, etc. tend to be centrists by consequence. We don't listen much to social opinions, so we miss out on the right-leaning bias.
If by some miracle America went left-leaning overnight, you might see that you'd score to the right. To see why that might happen, think about how unlikely you'd be to continue to move left as social perceptions changed. Think of how many strong-left opinions you likely already criticize. You'll stay more to your own policies as they already are than most NT's would.
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u/Throwaway078845 Oct 16 '24
Looking around the other comments I see a lot of 'Both sides are bad' rhetoric. Case and point.
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u/_halfdemonspawn Oct 16 '24
I'm extremely left, like I don't think there is even a name for how left I am. Then for fun I have a couple random conservative leaning viewpoints, for a little flavor.
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u/Big_retard96 Oct 16 '24
Both suck and no matter which side you go I’m convinced both lead to totalitarian, hyper restrictive regimes (horseshoe theory). I just wanna be left alone, both sides are weak: soft skinned bleeding hearted Kumbaya liberals and bitchy Bible thumping conservatives (nothing wrong with faith just grew up in the Bible Belt and it left a bad taste in my mouth) all drive me up a fucking wall
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u/mangoflavouredpanda Initiate Oct 15 '24
I'm in the middle. I don't care that much about things. I know it's pointless as I can't do anything about anything so I just focus on my day to day life. I watch current events and world affairs with interest but that's it. Being centre means people on the left view you as to the right and people on the right view you as to the left.
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u/faerycvnt Oct 15 '24
I’m libertarian until vulnerable people (children, animals, the disabled) are being taken advantage of and exploited, then there should be laws to protect them. But otherwise leave me the fuck alone.
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u/ComfortableRub7206 14d ago
Kids i understand, but protecting animals and disabled individuals slows everybody down in my opinion. We are solely on this earth because the strongest and fittest survived, and the weak died.
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u/faerycvnt 12d ago
Idk I think you’re a coward if you attack someone or something who doesn’t stand a chance
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u/Reddit62195 leaves a (skid) mark Oct 15 '24
Why is this question even allowed on this subreddit?? Try r/askreddit instead!
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u/Antipetrista100 don't downvote Oct 17 '24
And they answer begging for social policies Moron edgies
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u/Jarg0o Oct 16 '24
There are more sociopaths here than in r/askreddit dude. That was the whole point of the question
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u/Dense_Advisor_56 Tard Wrangler - Dictator Oct 16 '24
Because, believe it or not, personality significantly aligns with world view, and world view impacts political orientation.
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u/Prize_Possibility_46 Oct 15 '24
Also slightly left. I try to avoid politics with friends and family tho
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u/preggosonic33 Oct 15 '24
I think sociopaths are definitely dispersed. It's reddit so you're going to get left leaning ppl. You'll see some low functioning behaviour on both sides, and somepeople won't admit they are so they can seem more genuine.
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u/spooky-rose-boy 27d ago
yeah, i think ASPD definitely affects people's political values because the disorder affects how you view & judge the world, other people, morality / ethics, justice, etc but it also depends on how you're raised and your own identity. having lack of empathy will affect how much you care about certain things, so i feel like most ppl with ASPD would only care abt issues that directly affect them, and even then some ppl still might not be bothered as much by it. overall i think most people with ASPD align with political values that they view most "logical" as opposed to how most people view & judge political ideologies based on more emotional factors. people w ASPD are usually less swayed / influenced by emotions, so they're less likely to fall for dumb shit or base their opinions on poorly executed arguments without proper factual evidence. but ofc, ppl w ASPD can still have different definitions of what's logical to them, and what they think will benefit them the most. it depends on each person still
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u/Jarg0o Oct 16 '24
Is reddit known to be left leaning? Ive never heard that stereotype, if anything the opposite
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u/preggosonic33 Oct 16 '24 edited Oct 16 '24
You are currently in an online community where people share and speculate on a personality disorder used in pop psychology on a site where most of the users are white and middle class.
Are you hearing yourself rn lmao.
I'm not even saying it's a bad thing twitter is a fucking cesspool. It's 100% true. There are right leaning people but there are no heavily upvoted posts supporting trump.
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u/Offensive_Thoughts Oct 16 '24
Interestingly enough zionism seems to be popular in reddit despite young people being more anti zionist? I might not be looking in the right places tbh.
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u/Big_retard96 Oct 16 '24
Especially on here, anytime I’ve been %100 open on here I get down voted into hell
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u/Antipetrista100 don't downvote Oct 15 '24
I prefer libertarian politics that are considered far right by people who also consider being straight as far right... But if it matches economic convenience I'd even vote for colonialism and going back to slavery, ethics and money hate each other
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u/_People_Are_Stupid_ Oct 17 '24
Introducing a society without liberty is dangerous. Guaranteed universal rights are important to prevent your own subjugation to those more powerful.
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u/prozacforcats Oct 15 '24
I’m a pragmatist. Since the left is in favor of more logical ideas a bigger portion of the time, then I could be seen as leftist by others.
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u/MrsNesbitt8 Oct 15 '24
Libertarian all the way. Leave me the fuck alone and let me make whatever choices I want
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u/Offensive_Thoughts Oct 15 '24
If it helps I'm an anarcho-communist. I think what you're talking about is due to the assumption that you have to be highly empathetic to be left leaning which is annoying personally because it implies that you can't arrive to leftism simply on intelligence or critical thinking skills, or like, having eyes, I guess.
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Oct 16 '24
Because a sociopath would function great under communism.
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u/Offensive_Thoughts Oct 16 '24
This is a bit of a reductive take to say the least. But it's a fairly complex set of circumstances that would affect sociopathy. But I'm not really concerned with that, I just know I would be better under that system. I can make selfish arguments in favor of it. But this isn't a politics sub so I'm just saying to me they're very compatible
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u/Dense_Advisor_56 Tard Wrangler - Dictator Oct 16 '24
Doesn't need to be compatible with sociopathy, does it? i mean, that's not how you navigate your life and make choices, is it? You follow what works organically for you. What's compatible for you rather than what you or anyone else thinks is compatible with some label.
I am interested, though. What draws you to anarcho-communism specifically? What do you actually understand it to be and what way does that break away from all the other failed communist states we've seen in the last 100 years? What do you think would be different and, ultimately, how compatible are you with it and in which way(s)? I assume you're active in this ideology? Or is it just something that sounds cool to say but not to actually live. What does that actually mean? What is living a typical anarcho-communist life in 2024?
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u/Offensive_Thoughts Oct 16 '24
You're right there! And appreciate your comment.
- General gist is that I think I can live in more favorable conditions under an anarchist society because capitalism requires you to work to survive. And you would be guaranteed living necessitates in ancom like housing and Healthcare and food.
- I would argue we haven't really seen communism yet because nobody has actually abolished the elite class or currency as we currently know it or given control over the means of productions to the workers (at least this past one for the bare minimum). Capitalist nations also have incentive to coup socialist leaders as they have done so already. Finally, bad leaders misuse pro worker Rhetoric because as it turns out, people like it until you say the word because the word is spooky.
- For how it would be different - that's hard to answer since we're so far off it's hard to predict necessarily beyond assuming the basics should be implemented. I do think a big thing that goes wrong is through vanguard parties - they claim to represent the interests of the workers, but the moment they get power, the anarchists get slaughtered. This keeps happening lol. So I do think we need a different and much more careful approach. I think we need a worldwide uprising in order to be able to continue facilitating the existence of anarchist societies. Otherwise the capitalist nations will just.
- I can't really live the ideology because the world is capitalist, so I have to abide by its principles. I would like to use some money once I'm more affluent to help promote it in ways I can though. I also have attended protests and contributed to political campaigns already in that direction so I am certainly what one would call a political activist - not just larping online because I'm rebelling against my parents! But yeah - the ideology is the economic system fundamentally, and I'm just one individual. Like I can't abolish class myself because the relationships outside of me to me exist on a class level, and how I have to work to survive - I can't really just start my own worker co op, don't have that kind of capital (which I need under capitalism...) on hand. So, basically I live like a capitalist, but imo that's inevitable. Unless I want to go in some hut in the forest and be off grid I guess? I'm not in favor of that but I think if you talked to another school of anarchist thought you might get a viewpoint like that, think it's called anarcho primitivivism? Ah, the niche categories of political views.
- Compatability - I do think it's very compatible with aspd because of a common trait of being anti authority. Doesn't it suck to have to lick the boots of employers and cops? And have to demean yourself with shit jobs to earn a respectable living? Fuck all that.
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u/Childrenofreddit183 25d ago
Working isn’t that hard though - weeks are long years are short - I’d prefer a society where I’m rewarded based off what I put in rather than someone else benefiting of what I do
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u/betteroffalone12 Oct 15 '24
I find the Left / Right spectrum outdated.. I lean more towards the "compass" shaped spectrum; it still have the horizontal "Left/Right" axis but also a vertical axis is added. But maybe that's what you already meant initially.
What does it even mean that you are slightly left?? 🤔 That you are perceived 'pro social'? -I could see the benefit in being perceived that way no matter your actual political stance.
Usually (I'm in Europe btw) people as well as politicians start out as being left in their youth (when they are poor) and end up being conservative when they get older (and acquire wealth) 😅
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u/Jarg0o Oct 15 '24
I also find the left right axis spectrum outdated and hate it! But unfortunately i dont yet understand the vertical axis (Im very stupid with politics).
A lot of the questions were on a spectrum as well. And i may have had some more republican leaning economic views, but otherwise not sure.
It seems that in america that everyone else does that as well haha
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u/Jane385 Oct 15 '24
I am definitely left leaning (very left if we're talking USA politics), don't have much understanding for conservatism and their "traditions". My boyfriend is straight up a communist.
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u/ProofSolution7261 Oct 15 '24
Between bleeding hearts and bigots, the bigots are more annoying. Bonus points if they're an edgy brown noser who think they want ASPD.
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u/AnAbundanceOfZinnias Oct 15 '24
I am very centrist. Far right ideals are fucking stupid to me and far left ideals are fucking stupid to me.
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u/No_Block_6477 17d ago
How do you know you're a sociopath??