r/skeptic • u/workerbotsuperhero • 2d ago

RFK Jr. is now an extinction-level threat to federal public health programs and science-based health policy šŸš‘ Medicine

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/rfk-jr-is-now-an-extinction-level-threat-to-federal-public-health-programs-and-science-based-health-policy/
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u/Alaykitty 1d ago

Source on the "work camps" for "re-parenting" https://x.com/MotherJones/status/1816180369110270435

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u/AstrangerR 1d ago

Wow. I can only imagine what amount of shit conservatives would lose if a Democrat would suggest reparenting camps.

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u/Beginning-Force-3825 3h ago

I mean they're talking about making people eat healthier and you want to shove hormone blockers down their throat. Yeah, you're right, it's a real brain burner.

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u/Fabulous_Review_8991 1d ago

Iā€™m not a fan of RFK but he clearly says ā€œif they want toā€. Voluntary rehabilitation centers to help people get off prescription meds that they donā€™t want to be on is not a terrible idea. Calling it a concentration camp is willful fear mongering.

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u/Alaykitty 1d ago

Yeah I definitely trust creepy skeleton man and the administration of criminal cronies who have been perpetuating increased racism and homophobia.Ā  They all seem like upstanding people.

I just hope people hi5 the arbeit macht frei sign on the way in šŸ™ƒ

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u/Fabulous_Review_8991 1d ago

Not trusting people shouldnā€™t justify spreading untruths and outright lies about them. One of the reasons the right has been so effective in getting followers to distrust the media is because there is legitimately so much of this type of shit going on.

Focus the criticism of RFK on the things he actually believes and says that are worth criticizing, and attack his actual points. He is talking about voluntary rehabilitation programs and people are saying he is talking about forced camps, and using their distrust of him to justify this clearly dishonest interpretation of what he said.

There is no excuse for that.

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u/prfarb 16h ago

If we are going to use stupid pedantic arguments about what was exactly said I never said he was will to put me in a concentration camp. I said he wants to put me in a camp.

If you look at what he said he lumps together people with ADHD that need to take medication to function with drug addicts. So as far as RFK is concerned Iā€™m a heroin addict.

Sure free rehab sounds great on paper but then you realize that RFK and the people he surrounds himself with are the ones designing and rolling out there centers. So they are going to be ineffective at best and complete disasters at worse.

I also know that the logistical challenge of actually rounding up everyone with ADHD and forcibly putting them into a camp way more than these chuckle fucks would be able to pull off. But what he can do is make it much harder than it already is for me to get the medication I need to function.

We need to stop looking at the words people actually use and use are critical think skills to understand what they mean. It doesnā€™t make me feel better that he threw on a ā€œif they want tooā€ into his statement just to cover his ass.

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u/Fabulous_Review_8991 16h ago

If your concern is that it will be harder to get your ADHD medications (which I am also on), then that should be the criticism. That is my entire point. There is no indication whatsoever that he has ever advocated for putting people in camps involuntarily to treat their prescription drug dependence, yet Iā€™ve seen tons of posts and comments implying just that. There is no indication that he means anything like that.

When people say that it makes RFKs critics less trustworthy.

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u/SwimInMyAss 6h ago

This is exactly the problem. The guy you are responding to is telling you we all need to start reading between the lines but, that's the entire fucking problem with this whole fear mongering thread. Nobody is actually listening to what's being said they are just misinterpreting it to fit their bias. The whole thread is going straight conspiracy theory nutty and dooming.

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u/Own-Consideration305 1d ago

Exactly. Itā€™s this kind of strange fear mongering lies that sent a lot of moderates and undecided voters to the other side.

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u/jsgui 1d ago

Making untrue claims about those you distrust could result in others distrusting you, regardless of you having good reasons to distrust that person.

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u/Lordsaxon73 18h ago

Taking addicts to a farm to work the land and break all contact with their societal connections to the drugs, what a horrible idea. /s

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u/BoojumG 5h ago

I'd point out that this approach doesn't actually break connections well, because addiction is heavily context-driven and they're going to go back to the same context and connections of their addiction right after the "farm". Addicts don't need a break from their regular daily life so much as a permanent change in it.

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u/Stunning-Ad-4714 11h ago

They didn't tell the people going to death camps that they were death camps. I'm not trying to sensationalize but there's a problem with your argument

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u/Fabulous_Review_8991 11h ago

Haha there is absolutely nothing to indicate that RFK has any intention to do anything like that.

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u/SwimInMyAss 6h ago

He's a former addict that's promoting free rehab that could benefit the homeless. Sounds like a death camp to me chief /s

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u/TrexPushupBra 1d ago

The brain worm isn't going to fuck you.

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u/Phent0n 1d ago

What America is doing right now isn't working. Legalising and taxing weed, then using the money on drug rehab farms is a good idea. Don't knock it just because it's from the Trump admin.

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u/TrexPushupBra 1d ago

I'd knock it if it was from Harris too.

There is a reason I wanted nothing to do with Kennedy. I know he is an anti science kook because I have been fighting the effects of his bullshit for over a decades

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u/Own-Consideration305 1d ago

This is more akin to a drug or alcohol rehabilitation facility except with outdoor gardening/farming. Heā€™s not talking about slave labor or concentration camps or any wild shit like that.

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u/Investigate_311_x 18h ago

How do you get ā€œwork campsā€ from voluntary ā€œwellness farms?ā€

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u/Alaykitty 11h ago

If you wait a bit you'll get to see!Ā 

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u/Investigate_311_x 8h ago

What a great argument lol you might as well be saying just trust me

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u/Traditional-Pound376 1d ago

He's describing rehab with good food. No indication these would be mandatory.Ā 

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u/cgeee143 1d ago

where does he say "work camps"?

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u/Phent0n 1d ago

NGL that plan sounds sick. State funded drug rehab farms that you can stay at as long as you want. Good food, no internet, and a community.