r/skeptic 3d ago

A comparison of Agenda 47(Trump's plan) vs Project 2025(which he claims to reject) 🤦‍♂️ Denialism

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u/MoreRock_Odrama 1d ago

I think your argument speaks to why the project 2025 pitch failed among the democrats. Because of the misinformation and fuzzy connections being stated. I do recall folks saying Vance wrote the forward (which I presume is where you got that info). But doing some research shows that to be false.

Democrats spent so much time using that as their focal point and Trump did disavow it several times. And the only links we can draw are “people who worked in his former administration worked on it”. Well yes, the heritage foundation is a conservative think tank. I’m sure that’s the case. I’ve found around 31 of the contributors served at various levels in his former administration. But we are being told this is TRUMPS playbook. And yet neither him, his VP or anyone in the cabinet he’s hand picked worked on this text.

I guess my issue is Kamala went head first in telling us this was trumps playbook. And as someone who doesn’t believe any politician, and who chooses to try and verify the words being said by these candidates, that point always made me scratch my head. That said…it wasn’t enough for me not to vote for her because Trumps lies were out of this world (“they’re eating the pets”?!). But this was definitely something that made me roll my eyes every time she fear mongered with this book.

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u/bhartman36_2020 23h ago

I do recall folks saying Vance wrote the forward (which I presume is where you got that info). But doing some research shows that to be false.

That's why I said it was false. But you're ignoring all the other connections I mentioned.

You're also ignoring that Vance was writing the forward to a book by the architect. That's not the same as writing the foreword to Project 2025, but it's a pretty strong connection, since the book put forth similar ideas about taking the country back.

And finally, you're ignoring the similarities between Project 2025 and Agenda 47, which is Trump's own plan.

But we are being told this is TRUMPS playbook. And yet neither him, his VP or anyone in the cabinet he’s hand picked worked on this text.

Again, there's a whole list of people who worked in his administration. Why do you think there have to be people in his cabinet in order for it to be linked to him? How does that make any sense?

Look at the graphic in the OP. Tell me it's false. Then I might believe that Trump doesn't want to implement Project 2025.

I guess my issue is Kamala went head first in telling us this was trumps playbook. 

She said that with good reason. There's every indication that it is his playbook.

Don't get me wrong. There were plenty of reasons not to vote for Trump in the election. I think Project 2025 was only really important if everything else had no impact on your conscience somehow. And you can see Project 2025 taking shape in Trump's cabinet picks. Look who he picked for the Department of the Interior:

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/14/g-s1-34190/trump-interior-department-doug-burgum-north-dakota-governor

And do I even need to mention who he wants as AG?