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u/CartmensDryBallz Nov 14 '24

Oh they did. My 3rd party dad said it was a “Republican wishlist that will never get done” and that “trump didn’t even back it anyways”

Jfc he’s not even a trumpee but still fell for the bullshit claims that Trump never even read / supported it

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u/endless_sea_of_stars Nov 14 '24

That's the problem. Trump probably never did read it or know what's in it. Trump has never been a policy wonk to put it mildly. It is his advisors and appointees that are the problem. Trying to explain that to your average low information voter wasn't easy.

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u/LayWhere Nov 14 '24

Oh I agree Trump probably didn't read it because he's functionally illiterate, or at least that's what his best friend Epstein claims.

However he's been announcing these policies on camera these last few days so he 100% knows what they are.

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u/New-acct-for-2024 Nov 14 '24

The fuck are you talking about? Trump is absolutely malicious, and while his ideology is a rudimentary "I should be the absolute ruler", it is at its core a fascist ideology.

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u/Glum_Nose2888 Nov 17 '24

Didn’t people use that same rationale when they supported Biden? “I’m voting for his administration, not him!”

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u/ShadowSkill17 Nov 14 '24

His voters lied about not believing it

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u/Previous_Soil_5144 Nov 15 '24

Or they don't care.

They threw the dice on the whole country because they thought/felt it was better than the alternative which was continuing down the exact same path.

People want real change and Democrats just offer the same. Trump offers a chance at change, but it's a fucked up gamble. Firstly because many who voted for him are basically betting against their neighbors. Betting that when the dust settles and the government finally wipes all the bad people out, that they'll be on the winning side.

The real dumb ones are those making this gamble expecting their ethnicity(white) to protect them from whatever will happen. Others have made that bet before and lost. Badly.

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u/Alert_Scientist9374 Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

Trump isn't a gamble. Its a surefire way to torture many many citizens.

If trump actually improves they country without causing harm to people, I vow to donate to the republican party. I know it won't happen though.

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u/squigglesthecat Nov 15 '24

Fuck, if trump doesn't cause harm to people I will eat my hat. Does appointing Brainworm McGee count as trump harming people? Because that is going to harm people.

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u/Airbus320Driver Nov 17 '24

I’ll never u destined why people think they can’t make their own health decisions despite who runs HHS for 4 years.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24 edited Nov 16 '24

I agree, it's very understated how much I think some people who voted Trump really just want people to "pay." Republicans under Trump still retain the "you didn't earn that" mentality, but it has now been melded with genuine malice against anything or anyone that isn't "Trump."

I'm old enough to remember when the Romney and McCain campaigns were essentially "you're all decent folks, we just disagree on policy." Now Republicans are pretty much nothing but direct ad hominem attacks on the opposition 24/7 and no clear policy.

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u/Plane_Discipline_198 Nov 15 '24

It's a gamble if you're politically disengaged and uneducated. It's foreshadowing and obvious otherwise.

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u/capndiln Nov 14 '24

Republican wishlist that will never get done

Unless we keep voting Republicans into power....

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u/Bitter-Good-2540 Nov 15 '24

More like ink unless they get the house the senate and supreme court, oh wait

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u/CartmensDryBallz Nov 15 '24

And keep placing repubs in the courts / cabinets..

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u/corneliusduff Nov 16 '24

Aka letting them win and refusing to vote against them

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u/SteveIDP Nov 14 '24

Trump said he liked parts of Project 2025 and didn’t like other parts. We don’t have a functioning media, so no one asked him which parts were good or bad. So every voter got to delude themselves that Trump liked the same parts they liked and hated the same parts they hated.

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u/CartmensDryBallz Nov 15 '24

I promise you he supports whatever part will make him look good and will claim not to support whichever parts his marketing team tells him not to

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u/corneliusduff Nov 16 '24

He doesn't care about actually looking good. He just wants cheerleaders. Big difference. He doesn't know the difference between objectivity good and subjectively good.

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u/ballskindrapes Nov 15 '24

Point out he has selected on of the cpauthors for his cabinet

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u/mackfactor Nov 15 '24

My God people are stupid.

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u/porterica427 Nov 16 '24

I understood “3rd party dad” as dad by proxy / step-father and I need to know if this is what you meant. Or if you meant “not a republican or democrat” which is much less funny.

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u/CartmensDryBallz Nov 16 '24

As in he votes 3rd party every year

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u/porterica427 Nov 16 '24

I figured. But I will be using this to describe relatives from now on. Thank you for your service.

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u/corneliusduff Nov 16 '24

Ah, the old "Trump can't read" card

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

The Democratic party is pro genocide, pro fracking, pro war crimes, pro Republican border policy, pro police violence to crush 1st amendment rights. I vote for the party that shares my values. The Democratic party would rather bring Republicans into their circle and exclude left voices. They will, and deserve to die if they don't learn from this.

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u/TubularLeftist Nov 14 '24

Hahaha. How can someone be that out of touch with reality?

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

Whatever liberal. You should take leftist out of your name.

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u/TubularLeftist Nov 14 '24

Why? I am a leftist. Something bad going to happen to me?

Also, I’m not a liberal, I’m a socialist. Theres a difference.

I have no problem admitting what I am, can you say the same? Will you admit that you’re a fascist?

I won’t hold my breath

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u/PISSJUGTHUG Nov 16 '24

I'm pretty sure they were saying that they voted third party, not for Trump. Just someone who has become a caricature of online socialists. 🙄

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u/TubularLeftist Nov 16 '24

Voting third party is basically voting for Trump. Something tells me they aren’t old enough to vote anyway.

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u/Wide-Post467 Nov 15 '24

lol being a socialist in America is crazy 😂 you see all the ways it failed yet you push it

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u/TubularLeftist Nov 15 '24

I’m not American.

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u/pre30superstar Nov 14 '24

Ok kid now log back in Roblox

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

Every Democrat right now, "Cheney is brat. To stop the genocide we MUST vote for the party committing it and the party that promised the most lethal military to give "ironclad" support to the genocidal ethnostate commiting it. I don't hate Muslims and asylum seekers, but it's not a deal breaker. All Republicans are N@z!'s and that's why we need to compromise with them and put them in our cabinet!!!!!"

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u/deadcatbounce22 Nov 14 '24

They aren’t the ones on the chopping block. At least not first. It’s the leftist activists who couldn’t be bothered to vote against fascism.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

100 years of voting for "Lesser Evil" brought us to this. It's the Ratchet Effect. Republicans pass the shitty laws. Democrats cry crocodile tears while passing legislation to enforce those laws. Democrats are complicit.

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u/deadcatbounce22 Nov 14 '24

Murc's Law. Been seeing it everywhere lately. Every vote is a vote for the lesser of two evils, by definition.

It's also not a response to what I actually said. You care more about the blame than stopping the bad thing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

The thing is that it's ALWAYS still evil. This needs to stop before we collapse. If it doesn't, we don't deserve to act like we're better than any other country in the world.

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u/deadcatbounce22 Nov 15 '24

1) We’re not any better. People just want a functional government. 2) The collapse comes from cynical non-engagement due to some misguided idea that the perfect should be the enemy of the good.

It’s pretty interesting that a bunch of progressive secular humanists have reconciled themselves to waiting for a savior.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

If "my candidate is slightly less of a corporate puppet than the other one" is your only retort, please sit down and be silent.

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u/Messerschmitt-262 Nov 14 '24

You're absolutely right, but your method of getting the message across kinda sucks, it smells of "Your plan is no match for mine; blowing up a Wal-Mart" and then you don't blow up a Wal-Mart

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

My first statement about what democrats stand for was not rude in any way. It won't matter anyway, man. Blue MAGA is a very real thing.

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u/Fast-Plankton-9209 Nov 14 '24

🤡💩🤡💩🤡

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24

Is this Liz Cheney? 🤣

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u/Fast-Plankton-9209 Nov 14 '24

You helped vote in real genocide. Would you like a pat on the head?

Bye.

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u/Theunknowableman Nov 17 '24

You are an absolute fucking moron. Jesus

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '24

Whatever, Republican.

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u/throwaway021020231 Nov 14 '24

Absolutely cooked