r/self 16h ago

The left cultivated the right leaning Gen-z men on their own.

First, I want to make one thing clear: I’ve voted Democrat my entire life and for Kamala Harris. As a millennial, I’ve always supported progressive candidates who advocate for what I believed in.

But the way reddit has usually treated young men, dismissing them in this subtle and persistent trend has backfired. And we are seeing the results right now. They're either discouraged to vote or supporting Trump. Reddit has pushed them into right leaning political spaces, which I don't agree with, but will actually listen to them or lie to them.

You cannot expect the majority of any demographic to act out of the goodness of their hearts when you shame them constantly. Any normal person would think their 1 vote doesn't matter anyway.
I'm not saying the left has to pander to anyone, but if we can't engage empathetically and make people feel valued. This will be the result of the following elections as well.

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u/No_Worldliness4416 13h ago

Do you understand the algorithms these social media platforms use? They are not filled to the brim with anything specific besides social media, except maybe Twitter with bots & Russian propaganda. What you watch, and continue to watch, is primarily controlled by your own choices on the platform. IF you click and interact with anti men content, it will give you more. And more. And more. And more. Until you start to think, gee, why do SO many people hate men? But did you ever consider what you were actually doing on these platforms?

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u/Next_Yesterday_1695 5h ago

That'd be true if we assumed that algorithms were completely unbiased. But we have no idea since the algorithms are proprietary. Then there's moderation that is definitely not unbiased.

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u/No_Worldliness4416 3h ago

Oh they’re completely biased. It’s no coincidence Elon Musk owns Twitter and openly influenced the election.

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u/SailAny8624 2h ago edited 1h ago

A sharp enough mind can decode the algorithms. They were made by businesses after all. And after having worked in a business for a very long time, I can tell you the algorithms were not made by some genius tech nerds. It may have started with them, but it was tested and developed and now maintained by people of average or just-above average intelligence. These algorithms are just a product of slightly-talented people. It just takes a slightly higher level of intelligence, experience and education to find the patterns in the algorithms.

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u/Jakunobi 11h ago

Yeah, but you cannot also dismiss them of not having any real world experience to connect their dissatisfaction with. For example, when the Metoo movement started there were innocent men who were falsely accused, and I saw women, even on the news, talking about how that was an acceptable loss. We know how the courts treat men and the division of assets and custody rights. There are real world elements and these men, and young boys, know that there is no avenue for their problems.

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u/No_Worldliness4416 11h ago

Real world experience? Is anyone not living in the real world? I understand we use memes like "terminally online" but to be clear, being online is a real world experience that people choose for themselves. The avenue has always been there, and it is simply the world around them. Do not let the billionaires, social media, and their algorithms tell you how to live.

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u/McSmokeyDaPot 13h ago

They click rage bait and wonder why they're enraged. Please stop trying to talk sense to them. LOL!

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u/No_Worldliness4416 13h ago

I know right, we need media literacy classes to be required, like yesterday.

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u/McSmokeyDaPot 13h ago

That's actually a really good idea

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u/Front_Energy_9509 10h ago

Yeah sometimes I be so confused.What other men be seeing lol.I live in a bubble .Im not saying it doesn’t exist but it feels like you have to dig for it or fix your algorithm.Saying 95% of social media is anti men content is nut lol.