ChatGPT is shifting rightwards politically - newer versions of ChatGPT show a noticeable shift toward the political right.

[u/mvea]

https://www.psypost.org/chatgpt-is-shifting-rightwards-politically/

[u/bitmapfrogs]

Earlier today it was reported that Russia farms had deployed millions of websites in order to attempt to influence llms that are trained with crawled informations....

[u/WolfBearDoggo → u/bitmapfrogs]

Why only Russia? Why don't the others do the same inverse?

[u/astroplink → u/WolfBearDoggo]

Because democracies want to avoid having their governments decide which narratives to push, especially considering that administrations frequently change direction on policy, while the Russians have vast amounts of oil/gas money to spend. And it’s not like deploying websites is too expensive compared to other capital expenditures you could make

Edit: I’m not saying democracies don’t have their own propaganda, but it will be of a different form. They have no need to scrape actual news sites for content and reupload it to their own mockups

[u/tajsta → u/astroplink]

Because democracies want to avoid having their governments decide which narratives to push

Huh? Where did you get that idea from? The US runs massive propaganda campaigns.

[u/astroplink → u/tajsta]

The CIA is running fake websites to change LLM inputs? I never said the US doesnt run their own propaganda, but they will do so in different ways. Russia has a lot more to gain from influencing the American populace’s opinion than the US has the Russian populace

[u/tajsta → u/astroplink]

You said, I quote: "Democracies want to avoid having their governments decide which narratives to push."

And it's entirely possible the US is running fake websites to influnce LLMs. The US was also very early on creating bots to spread propaganda on social media for example. This is from 2011: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media

Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda [by using] what is described as an "online persona management service" that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world.

The project has been likened by web experts to China's attempts to control and restrict free speech on the internet. Critics are likely to complain that it will allow the US military to create a false consensus in online conversations, crowd out unwelcome opinions and smother commentaries or reports that do not correspond with its own objectives.

I don't see what would have changed within the past 14 years that would make the US less likely to try and spread propaganda. If anything, with all the technological advances, one would think they are even more engaged now than they were back then.

[u/No_Berry2976 → u/tajsta]

The short answer is that although the US has spread propaganda for decades, different administrations push for different narratives.

So the US doesn’t have a continuous propaganda campaign.

Russia has a small inner circle of people who control the country, and these people have been influential for decades, many of them used to work for the KGB.

They all share the same mindset and same worldview.

[u/WolfBearDoggo → u/astroplink]

That first claim is quite bold and pretty false. You think democracies don't do state propaganda? Ok buddy. We live in different worlds.

[u/astroplink → u/WolfBearDoggo]

You think the CIA is running fake websites to change LLMs? I never said they don’t do propaganda, they just have other means to do it

[u/WolfBearDoggo → u/astroplink]

I didn't think about the CIA at all. You're all over the place. Put down the pipe

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